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rulemylife -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 12:26:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I'm glad we can agree on the zealousness of the prosecution. If the prosecutors office in PB went after doctor-shopping housewives with the same zeal I would not then or now think that RL was less prosecuted  for his crimes than persecuted for his politics. But, the prosecutor doesn't, of course; so what other conclusion can a reasonable person draw?
Furthermore, as I'm sure you'd agree, the hypocrisy of a prosecutor fanatically pursuing charges against a citizen for political reasons is far more serious than the hypocrisy so commonly practiced by so many individuals.


Fanatically pursuing charges?

Trust me, we don't agree, if this had been the housewife in your example she would not have received the same lenient treatment.



SilverMark -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 12:26:46 PM)

Rush can and does say whatever he feels likes saying....our opinions would not matter to him nor those of his devout listeners....they have no use for those who would disagree with them. You show more in the way of intelligence and effort to discuss, then he or his listeners would ever do. I have yet to agree with you and totally disagree when you take petty shots but, understand it, because upon occasion we all take them.



rulemylife -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 12:33:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

i think there is a difference between someone initially being given an addictive drug by a doctor and someone who starts the addiction themselves.   Both have to make the same journey to overcome the addiction.  However how both addictions began are totally different.    One was by choice the other wasn’t.


And did Rush make that distinction when he said all addicts should be locked up and the key thrown away?

I mean, of course, before he was outed as an addict himself.

And where is the distinction between someone given a prescription who then goes on to illegally obtain those drugs and someone who obtains illegal drugs to begin with?



rulemylife -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 12:38:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

in the song Magic Negro is a line from Joe Biden ;)

Some say Barack's articulate
and bright and new and clean
the media sure love this guy
a white interloper's dream.


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Yes, I'm aware of what Biden said but I'm confused about how you correlated it with what you posted.



Ok, I see.

A little bit of a stretch, but at least I see the correlation.



MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 12:42:50 PM)

Michael Moore , Keith Olbermann , Stewart smalley

do they have any use for those who disagree with them???

Recently Betsy McCaughey former lt governor of ny challenged Keith olbermann to a debate after keith attacked betsy

the challenge
http://www.politicususa.com/en/Keith-Olberman-Betsy-McCaughey

the responce

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/02/olbermann-responds-to-mccaugheys.html


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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

Rush can and does say whatever he feels likes saying....our opinions would not matter to him nor those of his devout listeners....they have no use for those who would disagree with them. You show more in the way of intelligence and effort to discuss, then he or his listeners would ever do. I have yet to agree with you and totally disagree when you take petty shots but, understand it, because upon occasion we all take them.



rulemylife -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 12:44:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

you do know the same argument could be made about Michael Moore , Keith Olbermann , Stewart smalley ect ;)



Yes, and I also know that the head of the Democratic National Committee has not hailed any of those three as a party leader.



corysub -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 12:46:27 PM)

"Heads Should Roll"

I think the interesting criticism these days...and probably best made a thread itself, is not the administration and their media drones attack on Limbaugh, but the disappointment expressed by Obama supporters in the lack of management skills doing too may things at once instead of focusing on THE problem of the financial system and real stimulus..not the BS pork Bill that Pelosi and Reid shoved down Obama's throat...and now did it again with the Omnibus Bill that makes the President lose any creditability with intelligent democrarts ( I admit there are a few of hose  :))  with a Warren Buffet, Jim Cramer.  An now Camille Paglia  joins the growing chorous with a brutal attack on the White House staff...."President Obama's clumsy, smirky staff is sinking him,  Heads should be rolling at the White House for the embarrassing series of flubs that have overshadowed President Obama's first seven weeks in office and given the scattered, demoralized Republicans a huge boost toward regrouping and resurrection."
You would think this was something written by Rush or Sean Hannity, not the lead writer of Salon.com
It gives rise to the possibility at "common sense", concern for the country in these difficult times, and that reasonable people DO NOT feel as if a political party should take advantage of a crisis to legislate social engineering and wasteful scientific experiment. 

     http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/03/11/mercury/index.html

It's not just that Barrack is over his head...his staff (well those that don't have tax issues) are over their heads...but Pelosi and Reid are an additional millstone around the poor guys neck.



SilverMark -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 12:49:17 PM)

I am not a member of their audience either so, I have no idea what they say....and could care less about Olberman anymore than I do Rush....I liked Keith on Sportscenter....but, the only shows I watch of a political nature are the Sunday morning shows and I find them to be pretty balanced and issue based as opposed to opinionated. Sorry, when it comes to talk radio if it isn't sports talk radio I change the station.



MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 12:57:08 PM)

I would gather at that time psychologically Rush viewed what he was doing differently than a drug addict.
Most people view druggies as the people getting high at party’s.  Not using a Dr prescribed pill.

With the exception of morpheme i personally never knew of any other drugs that doctors would give which were addictive.      Being given something by a Dr and it makes you a drug addict. I have a degree of sympathy for those who got hooked that way.  The same way if someone tied a personup and forced them to use coke and they got hooked.  There addiction didnt start from there free will like most addicts.




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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

i think there is a difference between someone initially being given an addictive drug by a doctor and someone who starts the addiction themselves.   Both have to make the same journey to overcome the addiction.  However how both addictions began are totally different.    One was by choice the other wasn’t.


And did Rush make that distinction when he said all addicts should be locked up and the key thrown away?

I mean, of course, before he was outed as an addict himself.

And where is the distinction between someone given a prescription who then goes on to illegally obtain those drugs and someone who obtains illegal drugs to begin with?




truckinslave -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 1:01:56 PM)

Thanks- I do try to limit my personal attacks to public figures; key word may be try, unfortunately.
But I don't consider myself an atypical listener. I'm even one a member of the great unwashed, as was discussed at length earlier (as is RL himself, of course)..... but I do ok [:)]



truckinslave -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 1:04:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

you do know the same argument could be made about Michael Moore , Keith Olbermann , Stewart smalley ect ;)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Forgot something in my first reply to you.
I don't listen to Stern much; I've listened more to Imus. Both men strike me as being sincere; certainly I have no factual reason to attack their sincerity. Further, it is widely believed that their medium- radio- makes it almost impossible to be convincingly insincere; there is the occasional off-key caller that seems to verify the truth of that belief.
Rush sounds like a "true believer" to me, that he freely spouts his own opinions truthfully.  I infer from your post that you don't agree. Why?


Yes, they are both extremely sincere, in their desire to make money.

Howard makes no bones about it while Rush wants you to believe that the money is secondary and he just wants to help his fellow Americans to put the country on the right course.

Of course, I'm sure Rush is a little more motivated to help the country when he's able to make $38 million a year by pandering to the most extreme partisan politics.



Yessir, that could even be said about Al ("Missed it by THAT much") Bore himself.



MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 1:04:58 PM)

you might have missed the 2004 DNC convention ;)
you dont sit where Michael Moore sat if your not a leader of the party.  Rush never sat there at republican conventions ;)

http://www.xtimeline.com/timeline/Biography-of-Michael-Moore/Moore-at-the-2004-Democratic-National-Convention

Moore was a high-profile guest at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, prominently seated in a box with former President Jimmy Carter and his wife.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

you do know the same argument could be made about Michael Moore , Keith Olbermann , Stewart smalley ect ;)



Yes, and I also know that the head of the Democratic National Committee has not hailed any of those three as a party leader.




truckinslave -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 1:10:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I'm glad we can agree on the zealousness of the prosecution. If the prosecutors office in PB went after doctor-shopping housewives with the same zeal I would not then or now think that RL was less prosecuted  for his crimes than persecuted for his politics. But, the prosecutor doesn't, of course; so what other conclusion can a reasonable person draw?
Furthermore, as I'm sure you'd agree, the hypocrisy of a prosecutor fanatically pursuing charges against a citizen for political reasons is far more serious than the hypocrisy so commonly practiced by so many individuals.


Fanatically pursuing charges?

Trust me, we don't agree, if this had been the housewife in your example she would not have received the same lenient treatment.


Typically, housewives are either nol prossed or offered an immiediate deal for probation.
I probably have more experience with the criminal justice system than most. I was a cop for a while, and as a full-fledged drunk had frequent reason to be grateful for the leniency that was generally shown me.



SilverMark -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 1:16:06 PM)

truckin, I take from your comment that now you are sober?



truckinslave -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 1:21:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

truckin, I take from your comment that now you are sober?

Yes, thank God, and a recovering "jumper" as well!



SilverMark -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 1:25:43 PM)

Congratulations!....My best friend got so bad that once he got through it....I never drank again....and I never had a problem with it.....Just witnessing the work to get through it was enough for me.



rulemylife -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 1:26:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I'm even one a member of the great unwashed, as was discussed at length earlier (as is RL himself, of course)


So, do all members of the "great unwashed" own 24 million dollar oceanfront mansions and 54 million dollar jets, as does RL himself, of course?



rulemylife -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 1:33:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Yessir, that could even be said about Al ("Missed it by THAT much") Bore himself.


I see.

So a former Vice-President who has dedicated himself to environmental causes, winning a Nobel Prize in the process, can be equated to ratings-grabbing, money-hungry low-life like Stern and Limbaugh.



MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 2:21:36 PM)

Now Rush Limabugh also was nominated for the very same Nobel Prize that Al Gore won.  It was just politics that allowed Al Gore to beat Rush Limbaugh.




MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 2:26:19 PM)

Rush isnt a slum lord like AL Gore


http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/06/05/trail_mix/index.html
Gore the "slumlord"
The vice president's Tennessee tenant demands repairs while campaign staffers try to fix his image.
By Alicia Montgomery June 5, 2000 | As Al Gore fights to get into the White House, he has gotten into some unexpected trouble closer to his Tennessee home. The Times of London reports that Tracy Mayberry, a tenant on Gore's Nashville area farm, called the vice president a "slumlord" after her repeated repair requests resulted in an eviction notice. The four-bedroom house Mayberry shares with her disabled husband and children has crumbling walls, an infestation of spiders and faulty plumbing. "It smells like an open sewer. Just the odor alone is enough to make you sick," Mayberry said. "I cannot get Al Gore to do nothing." After her complaints were publicized through the local media and the Associated Press, Gore contacted Mayberry immediately, pleading ignorance and promising to fix the property. The vice president also offered to pay for alternative housing for Mayberry and her family in the interim. Though Mayberry accepted his apology, she is withholding judgment until the promise is met. "Before, I was really upset with him. I considered him a slumlord," she said Saturday. "Right now, my opinion varies. If he'll uphold his end of the bargain, that's OK." Gore switches strategies ... again
The vice president's rental property run-in comes at a time when his team is honing its new post-primary approach. USA Today reports that the Gore campaign plans to reverse his drop in the polls by allowing the candidate to smile more and let others do the dirty work of bashing George W. Bush. The new bag of tricks also includes a multimillion-dollar ad campaign from the Democratic National Committee, a public makeup session --


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

I'm even one a member of the great unwashed, as was discussed at length earlier (as is RL himself, of course)


So, do all members of the "great unwashed" own 24 million dollar oceanfront mansions and 54 million dollar jets, as does RL himself, of course?




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