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CatdeMedici -> What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 1:53:20 PM)

<note: this is not another profile or email rant, I am just beyond curious>
 
"i am a slave, i am a worthless piece of poop that needs to be under your heels"
 
"i am slave, i am here for your humiliation pleasure, please write to me signed, slave"
 
" i am a slave, knowing i am worthless, awaiting your ownership"
 
What in the name of all that's life makes you think that is appealing?



Lockit -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 1:57:50 PM)

There are those that believe it and those that use it becasue I think they have spent too much time in certain types of chat rooms and think it is expected.  Who knows what they think and why... but I have been very clear on how distasteful I think it is and how I wouldn't be with anyone who was worthless.  I have challenged a couple when they came off like that and the answer I got... since he now knew it was the wrong path to go with me... was... Isn't that what you all expect in a slave?  Um... no dude... not even.



SylvereApLeanan -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 2:03:08 PM)

Too much FemDom porn is my guess.  Personally, I like a sub who knows her/his value and takes pride in serving well.  The low self-esteem thing grates on my nerves.



MissLaura1973 -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 2:17:19 PM)

Doesn't do one thing for me, other than to turn me off.

Why would I want to have anything to do with someone worthless? Where's the excitement in that? More to the point (at least to my way of thinking): where in the hell is the honor in someone giving themselves to me - do they think so little of me that they think I'm deserving of something worthless? C'mon here, let's get real.

I want to own someone that I am proud of, who I am honored by when they give themselves to me. I don't want a piece of dung stuck to my shoe.

As far as the humiliation goes, where's the fun in "humiliating" someone who wants to be humiliated? It's much more fun to humiliate someone who needs to be taken down a peg or two (though, to be honest, humiliation doesn't do a whole lot for me).



softness -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 2:25:51 PM)

It isn't appealing to me at all ... from a D perspective .... as a bottom that enjoys humiliation, degredation and "worthlessness" it is a headspace I need to experience ... but its a headspace rather than a reality. I am of great worth and value and if I wasn't, my Owner wouldn't wish to own me. We both enjoying sullying that valuable property from time to time, and when I need my "bucket emptying" that is the best headspace to do it in.

Problem with those kind of profile statements is that they usually come from people who seek certain headspaces in total isolation from the rest of life and wish to base an entire relationship around them experiencing that headspace. Beacuse of this those relationships either a) dontlast b) become a service Top, dominant Bottom dynamic or c) are very compartmentalised or "part time"

The other thing, and I myself am guilty of having done it. "worthless pieces of shit" are easier to Duminate for the inept but enthusiatic Tops out there. When you're desperate anything will do, and you play to the widest audience you can. I have played the pathetic helpless subbie card to get my ass beat in the past, just like I played the SAM and the brat. I'm not proud of it, but I didn't hurt anyone with it so I don't feel guilt over it either.



Lockit -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 2:39:13 PM)

Thank you for that post softness!  Thoughts to ponder, for sure!



girlygurl -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 2:40:32 PM)

I don't think it's appealing at all.



IrishMist -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 2:59:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

<note: this is not another profile or email rant, I am just beyond curious>
 
"i am a slave, i am a worthless piece of poop that needs to be under your heels"
 
"i am slave, i am here for your humiliation pleasure, please write to me signed, slave"
 
" i am a slave, knowing i am worthless, awaiting your ownership"
 
What in the name of all that's life makes you think that is appealing?

Just because YOU don't find it appealing does not mean that others will not. It all comes down to personal preference.



DavanKael -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 3:28:03 PM)

I enjoy pride, honor, dignity.  Those statements are devoid of those facets and, honestly, disgust me.  There are others out there, though, who dig weak personalities, humiliation, etc. and those sort of statements and that type of person may be right up their alley.  Each unto their own but that is soooooooo not for me. 
  Davan



mc1234 -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 3:32:44 PM)

Nothing is appealing to me about it, and it's something that's always made me go 'hmmmmm'.  Why would he wish to own something that was worthless?

I'm curious - do mostly Dommes receive this type of email?  I've gotten the (perhaps mistaken) impression it's more the male subs who might approach in this manner, than the female subs to a male Dom, but who the hell knows?  lol



Lockit -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 4:00:13 PM)

I have only had a few female submissive's email anything close to the worthless side of things, but many, many male submissive's have done this.  That could be because I am straight and fewer females email me.  But... from going on the boards and place's I have been... it was mostly males from my experience.  I would say a good amount of my mail comes from the worthless type, but I can't give percentages.



WestBaySlave -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 4:46:02 PM)

  It's funny... I'd say "it's a male thing", going on replies in this thread and my own experience of both subs AND doms who talk this way, but it's certainly something I don't enjoy, nor do I think about myself this way.

Honestly, if I was so incredibly self-loathing as those lines sound, my instinct wouldn't be to find someone to abuse me, it would to be kill myself and save the world the trouble.

As it is, I hope my submission is something that a dom appreciates or at the very least, desires. I get my pleasure from pleasing, after all, and if I can't do that, why bother? I want to be a net benefit to someone's life.



mc1234 -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 4:57:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WestBaySlave
Honestly, if I was so incredibly self-loathing as those lines sound, my instinct wouldn't be to find someone to abuse me, it would to be kill myself and save the world the trouble.



ROFL!!  Oh, my - great line!  Thanks, you just made me laugh out loud.


Lockit, thanks for your viewpoint.  :)



catize -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 5:08:13 PM)

There’s a line from the movie “Tootsie” that I think applies here.  Dustin Hoffman as Dorothy has tried out for a part in a soap opera.  The director asks 'her' a question and 'she' replies, “What answer will get me the part, Ma’am?”
I think the people who write the lowly worm profiles and letters believe it will ‘get them the part’. 



DesFIP -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 5:20:37 PM)

Fem domme porn does a lot of the lowly worm stuff. Since the newbies who do this stuff only know about dommes from porn, of course they assume this is what real ones want. What they're forgetting is that the porn is made to sell to men, not to women, and women don't get off on this.



subinchico -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 5:38:19 PM)

Catize, hit one nail on its head, yes, it gets them the part plus it turns some guys on just to write and send such messages.  About owning/being a worthless slave, its only one of my/their persona's, I'm a pompous concieted male in another and playfull adolesent in a third persona (and yes I can control them all).
quote:

ORIGINAL: catize

There’s a line from the movie “Tootsie” that I think applies here.  Dustin Hoffman as Dorothy has tried out for a part in a soap opera.  The director asks 'her' a question and 'she' replies, “What answer will get me the part, Ma’am?”
I think the people who write the lowly worm profiles and letters believe it will ‘get them the part’. 



Lockit -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 5:44:00 PM)

LOL... Just goes to show you... these emails are about them and not us... I love the proof in the puddin! lol



LadyPact -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 6:15:48 PM)

The whole concept makes no sense whatsoever to Me.  I understand that some like humiliation, degradation, objectification, etc.  It's just that, in My mind, those are things played with in an established dynamic or play agreement.

I've said this on a few threads lately.  Considering how many male s types are on the site compared to the number of female D types, isn't it more logical that we are going to seek out the best candidates?  (Actually, I think everyone should do this, regardless of gender and role.)  Unless it's someone's specific kink and that's what they are looking for, doesn't that kind of leave the "lowly, worthless" types in the dust?



dreamerdreaming -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 6:46:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

The whole concept makes no sense whatsoever to Me.  I understand that some like humiliation, degradation, objectification, etc.  It's just that, in My mind, those are things played with in an established dynamic or play agreement.

I've said this on a few threads lately.  Considering how many male s types are on the site compared to the number of female D types, isn't it more logical that we are going to seek out the best candidates?  (Actually, I think everyone should do this, regardless of gender and role.)  Unless it's someone's specific kink and that's what they are looking for, doesn't that kind of leave the "lowly, worthless" types in the dust?



Exactly!

Thank you, LadyPact. I'm not worthy!



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*giggles*

I just can't help myself sometimes...


Unfortunately I doubt if the "lowly, worthless" ones will take your post to heart. It'll either go right over their heads, or they'll ignore the truth of it because the low self-esteem bit is so much a part of their kink. Its a classic self-fulfilling prophecy.


 



feydeplume -> RE: What in the world do you think is appealing about... (3/9/2009 8:24:46 PM)

I think the female equivalent is the "it* will be your total slave and "it" will do anything you want always and need nothing but you to own "it" and let it cock worship the MASTER" sort of thing. I often wonder if it gets them any responses as well.

*the use of the word "it" here is in no way a judgment or derogatory statement. I was merely using the word to express a type of "slave speak" that might or might not be part of any given D/s or M/s dynamic. 



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