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stephykate -> Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 12:56:13 PM)

I wanted to share my recent experience with Mistress Lynn. It’s her belief that Dommes are reluctant to allow subs to release because once the sub releases, the Domme loses some control over their sub. Her tasks often require additional activity after the initial release that demonstrate true submission.

Mistress Lynn assigned me the task of edging myself over several days while wearing plastic pants. On the final day, I was allowed to release at a precise time into my plastic pants and once done, put the plastic pants on my head and lick them clean.

When I received this task I was extremely excited to complete it. Knowing I’d be edging myself over several days and then releasing into the plastic pants, I could easily imagine myself slurping up my cream off the inside of my pink plastic pants.

As each day passed, the intensity built. Finally, at the appointed time, I put on my pink plastic pants and began edging myself for 30 minutes until I was allowed to release. As I did so, I kept looking at the clock waiting for the 30 minutes to complete.

Finally, the time came and I squirted my cream. At this point, the inevitable “let down” happened and my desire to complete the task that was there just a few seconds ago was gone.

Now the task switched from being something I wanted to do – to something Mistress Lynn wanted me to do. I took off my cream-filled plastic panties that only a moment ago were the object of my desire and reluctantly opened up the waistband and slipped the front over my face. Once inside, I cleaned the inside of my plastic pants with my tongue, regretting that I agreed to the task, but knowing I will again.

As a sub, what happens once you've released and are no longer lead by your sexual desires?  Are you truly submissive and able to complete your tasks or are you merely sexually submissive and your domme would have been wiser to not allow you to release?




Lockit -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 1:02:02 PM)

Sounds like a game to me.  Not something I would be interested in.  If my dominance or his submission is determined by his horniness or release... we have a battle.  One I will not war with. 

No comment on the actual question...




greeneyedreamer -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 2:34:43 PM)

I don't know. The task was meaningless to me, but could be meaningful to both of you. I would do it if it really pleased My master in someway. It isn't one of my top ten things. I am submissive period. Not just sexually, not just in the bedroom. I crave pleasing but only with a purpose. that wouldn't float my boat.





akisha -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 2:37:52 PM)

Kinda with Lockit on this one. Sounds like a game to me.

Personally i feel closer and more submissive, I guess, after having an itimate moment.

Only time I feel less submissive or have no real desire to fulfill a task is if I feel he doesn't care on way or the other if it really gets completed.  Lack of feed back for me is a definate staller.




SingleRarity -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 2:38:08 PM)

"It’s her belief that Dommes are reluctant to allow subs to release because once the sub releases, the Domme loses some control over their sub."

My desire to submit, at its' root, isn't about sex, though that's a pleasant part of it.  What she describes sounds like the behavior you would see with a  paying customer, not a submissive. 

Edited for clarity.

Daddy's Ballerina, e




littlewonder -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 2:58:35 PM)

I submit..period..whether it be sexually or in any other way. I'm not always wanting sex but I'm still submissive to Master. Sex is just one small part of my service to him.




Kalista07 -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 3:20:46 PM)

"Are you truly submissive and able to complete your tasks or are you merely sexually submissive"

Sounds a wee bit judgmental to me........................

Not taking the bait today,
Kali




Lockit -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 3:31:31 PM)

The extreme detail in the op makes me feel like someone has a force my kinky experience on someone.  It reads like a wank fantasy to me and not the real purpose of the question posed.

Did you enjoy telling us how you creamed and licked?

You would be so fired at my house.




Prinsexx -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 3:52:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: stephykate


As a sub, what happens once you've released and are no longer lead by your sexual desires?  Are you truly submissive and able to complete your tasks or are you merely sexually submissive and your domme would have been wiser to not allow you to release?


I feel you describe male sexual release which has a different type of physiological chemistry.
Release for me is far more like the crests of several wabes than a sudden release. Not only that, since my bdsm has always been sexual, I reckon I combine service and sexuality rather skillfully... that seems to be a consensus so I am told anyways.
And actually I would go so far as to sat after the wabes of my release slow down and subside I am avle more to focus my sttention on service: make tea, tidy the room, caress, etc etc.
And as a result of understanding my sexuality I have not really ever been in relationship where that kind of conrol has been exercised over me.
Whilst we are talking male releae, as opposed to male sub release, the majority of males are denied multiple orgasms unless they train themselbes. But it's really amazing watching and experiencing a male who can experience the same crests of waves that I take for granted.
Friends I have who are trannies... and by that I mean those who are in transition across the male fe,ale divide.. do not in general place the same emphasis on release but on service. Big generalisation so apologies if I have upset anyone.





stephykate -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 4:46:51 PM)

Thank you all for you very interesting feedback and insights.  Your contributions have shed a different perspective on my experience and provide insight into how others experience submissive relationships.

I can assure you that this is an accurate depiction of what occurred and does not involve a professional relationship in any way.  I have known Mistress Lynn since the summer of last year and have enjoyed my relationship with her immensely.

The one comment on whether the description is too graphic may be valid.  It wasn't necessary to be that explicit here -- I could have made my point with out being that detailed.  I will take that into account in the future.

I appreciate hearing how others view this type of relationship because it helps me understand mine better.




CatdeMedici -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 5:04:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Sounds like a game to me.  Not something I would be interested in.  If my dominance or his submission is determined by his horniness or release... we have a battle.  One I will not war with. 

No comment on the actual question...


I'm with Lockit, if his submission or even his level of submission is dependent upon the size or existence of his erection--then it isn't about Me and all about Me catering to him---nope. nada, no way. My life extends well beyond a 6 inch cylinder.




slvemike4u -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 5:14:08 PM)

6 inch cylinder?




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 6:40:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

6 inch cylinder?


Don't be insulted; she probably didn't realize you and I were in the thread. Otherwise she'd have said, "10 inch cylinder."




VampiresLair -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 6:45:15 PM)

My Fox's submission isnt led by his sexual interests in the first place, so allowing him to reach orgasm does not decrease his submission. He has had some tasks to perform directly after sex or release on occasion, and others we have simply gone to sleep.

DV




YoursMistress -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 6:55:50 PM)

My very first experience on another site involved a pro Domme who solicited me through email.  After a few exchanges, she instructed me in the same sort of edging, ending with a promise to allow release if I sent her  tribute through her web site.  When I decided against it, she accused me of being an internet wanker, and I thought, "Well, that's what you wanted, wasn't it?" 

I find this technique manipulative, unsatisfying and not even submissive. 

In response to you original question, I think I would prefer the withholding of sexual activity as a reward for service, rather than the frenzied activity of days of edging.  The let down you experienced seems natural, and might very well have been her motive all along.  Women and very intelligent and can be devious, if you hadn't noticed. [;)]

yours




lovingpet -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 7:15:19 PM)

As vehement as folks may sound, I don't think there is anything necessarily wrong with a D/s that is solely a sex thing, but both parties would have to be on the same page with that.  I, for one, tend to naturally take things farther than that.  I am someone who is disappointed with herself when my attempts to please and make life better fail.  I want to make people in general happy and comfortable.  This goes oodles more for my dominants.  I complete a task because it was ordered of me and it pleases my dominant.  I will say feedback is cherished, however, and doing something with no real acknowledgement doesn't sit well with me.  I don't need all out praise for some minor thing.  I do expect it to be noticed and appreciated.

I know that I often do what is needed for others without being noticed or appreciated and I still have my own feelings of satisfaction.  Within an intimate relationship, however, I need a bit more out of my partner.  I don't expect every little thing will be noticed, but I need to hear and see that I am doing a good job and know where I can do more.  It is how I learn and grow.  It is how I am nourished.

Hope this helped.

lovingpet




slvemike4u -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 8:03:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

6 inch cylinder?


Don't be insulted; she probably didn't realize you and I were in the thread. Otherwise she'd have said, "10 inch cylinder."

Oh shit,sorry I missed that.




HeavansKeeper -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/20/2009 11:50:27 PM)

I see a lot of female responses, and while I've never been one to say "You can't understand, you're a [gender]" I understood the spirit of the question differently. The responses, by and large, have the tone of "I don't understand... You do as you're told, its that simple."

There's debate* as to why, but men tend to have a massive change after ejaculating. Anecdotally, I will add that getting off changes my stance on situations. Ideas that were once riveting and sexy are now disgusting, boring, menial, etc. This applies to dominant and submissive driven acts. Hell, I once tinkered with the idea of being made to paint a girl's room while she teased and humiliated me... After finishing, I thought it through and subcontracting to a painter was a better application of my time.

It's extremely common. And its why many dominas don't allow their male subjects to cum until they are done with them. That said, being a submissive male does not make you a slave to your testicles. The real need to submit is more powerful than the urge to fall asleep. Male submissives who have not learned how to put their dominant before them suffer here.




*Some argue it is a learned response, from years of falling asleep or relaxing after a "job well done" in which the body becomes accustomed that feeling, and 1/2 expects it while 1/2 forcing it. Others suggest its biological and unavoidable, perhaps an evolutionary advantage to collapse and nod off before leaving to find the next steak-animal, ensuring the semen stays put. Some argue its a big hoax, and men have a "I got mine, hope you got yours" attitude. Personally, I like to think its nature's way to force men to cuddle and stop thinking about sex.




Imakemensquirm -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/21/2009 3:39:11 AM)

 Interesting




GoddessTeaze -> RE: Sexual or True Submissive? (3/21/2009 3:54:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: stephykate

I wanted to share my recent experience with Mistress Lynn. It’s her belief that Dommes are reluctant to allow subs to release because once the sub releases, the Domme loses some control over their sub. Her tasks often require additional activity after the initial release that demonstrate true submission.

Mistress Lynn assigned me the task of edging myself over several days while wearing plastic pants. On the final day, I was allowed to release at a precise time into my plastic pants and once done, put the plastic pants on my head and lick them clean.

When I received this task I was extremely excited to complete it. Knowing I’d be edging myself over several days and then releasing into the plastic pants, I could easily imagine myself slurping up my cream off the inside of my pink plastic pants.

As each day passed, the intensity built. Finally, at the appointed time, I put on my pink plastic pants and began edging myself for 30 minutes until I was allowed to release. As I did so, I kept looking at the clock waiting for the 30 minutes to complete.

Finally, the time came and I squirted my cream. At this point, the inevitable “let down” happened and my desire to complete the task that was there just a few seconds ago was gone.

Now the task switched from being something I wanted to do – to something Mistress Lynn wanted me to do. I took off my cream-filled plastic panties that only a moment ago were the object of my desire and reluctantly opened up the waistband and slipped the front over my face. Once inside, I cleaned the inside of my plastic pants with my tongue, regretting that I agreed to the task, but knowing I will again.

As a sub, what happens once you've released and are no longer lead by your sexual desires?  Are you truly submissive and able to complete your tasks or are you merely sexually submissive and your domme would have been wiser to not allow you to release?



Hello stephykate,

I do wonder where all of your fellow submale's are
who are in denial, and know this feeling all too well.
Are they on holiday?

A shame because I'm familiour with this feeling,
with the males subs I've, and have had.

Because the state you're in when you're in denial, gives
great pleasure, and the cum not as much anymore.

It's that constant feeling of being under Her spell.

So you're not alone. It's a common feeling.
If your Miss gives you that asignment then it's something
to learn from, and you're still a true submissive,
who is doing what is told by your Miss.

Part of it is sexual, and it's good to've asked this question.

I wish you enough.

GoddezzT`




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