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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 11:18:22 AM   
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All I am saying is that when you find a person that states they have "no-limits" there is an extreme chance that there is a pile of abuse and neglect in their past. 


I'm just putting this out there as a possibility and I'm not speaking specifically for any of the posters here, just my own take based upon what I've seen.

A no-limits relationship isn't the same thing as a no-limits, mentally- impaired or abused person who would allow someone to hurt them because they believe they can't do any better for themselves.   I don't personally believe that any sane human being is completely without boundaries (or limits) in general.   What a lot of these couples mean when they say "we have a no-limits relationship" is that the "sub"/"slave" has found someone that they will allow to lead them, because he/she has a desire to relinquish control and allow the "dom"/"master" to be the one to decide when,  how, where, how far, how fast etc.    There are various reasons why some desire this type of relationship, but fundamentally it's just another expression of trust and intimacy that takes the form of a particular dynamic that two people mutually desire.    These women who speak of no-limits relationships haven't given themselves to a bum on the street corner because they have no self-worth and said "Hey bum, why don't you own me, and hire me out so you can pay for an apartment. I'm a piece of shit with no value, so you can let anyone fuck me without protection because I have no limits" etc.    They're not offering themselves to Charles Manson or some otherwise irrational nutcase to do with them whatever they please because they're "limitless".  On the contrary (at least in some cases) they've carefully chosen someone that they trust with this responsibility; someone who has gotten to know them, someone who has proven that he has their best interest at heart etc.  Therefore they don't feel it necessary to go into it with limits, saying:  "I'll never do this, and I'll never do that".  They don't feel any need or reason to lay down limits or try to control anything, because they believe that they've put themselves into capable hands. The whole "no-limits" term has to be taken in the context in which it's being spoken about.  If any of these "masters" ever said cut off your arm, go kill someone, rob a bank, eat your firstborn with a bottle of Chianti, these slaves would most likely decide that this man is no longer of sound mind and no longer fit to lead them. But unless and until that happens (and it probably won't if they've chose wisely) they have no reason to be anything other than "limitless" for their partner; they have no desire or need to steer the ship.  No one is being forced here... Both parties want it this way because it's mutually fulfilling to them to have a power exchange or authority exchange or whateverthefuck you wanna call it.     Now, of course this doesn't mean that horrors like abuse against the mentally-impaired don't exist, and god knows we see plenty of dysfunction, pain, abuse, victimization, exploitation etc around here,  but being in a "no limits bdsm relationship" doesn't automatically make it such a case.   A fool is going to be a fool no matter what kind of relationship they're in,  an abuser is going to be an abuser, a victim is going to be a victim etc; that's not exclusive to bdsmers.  

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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 11:22:47 AM   
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Am wondering why it is that a discussion of the concept of a "no-limit" slave seems to cause such strong reactions. i was actually thinking of trying to find out what that term means to most people, as i know that there is a variety of definitions of that term, but i didn't want to start another argument about something that will likely never be resolved.

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There have been threads before on the whole 'no limit' submission thang.  I don't beleive there has been one for a while though.  I believe you have hit the nail on the head though heartfelt on the whole subjectiveness malarky.  Some(nay most) people need to get a grip on understanding that this is a bdsm environment and that standard definitions do not work.
 
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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 12:00:04 PM   
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I don't personally believe that any sane human being is completely without boundaries (or limits) in general.   What a lot of these couples mean when they say "we have a no-limits relationship" is that the "sub"/"slave" has found someone that they will allow to lead them, because he/she has a desire to relinquish control and allow the "dom"/"master" to be the one to decide when,  how, where, how far, how fast etc.    There are various reasons why some desire this type of relationship, but fundamentally it's just another expression of trust and intimacy that takes the form of a particular dynamic that two people mutually desire.

Marie, I wanted to thank you for formulating such an articulate, well-constructed post that encapsulates the essence of a 'no limit' relationship. The old mental health chestnut has long been bandied around in reference to no limits relationships and this in itself indicates a lack of comprehension of the dynamics of such a relationship and falls on an individual's biased perception without any basis of fact. I would like to see documented evidence via way of research of a large section of people that engage in such relationships before I would even drop the assumption that these claims are nothing more than ignorant assertions brought about by isolated personal experiences that likely never made it past a keyboard.




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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 12:05:31 PM   
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Surely you have rock-solid evidence for that causat.....er...."correlation" as well....right?
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You supply the evidence to refute it.   I could care less.  I know what I know.


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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 2:19:01 PM   
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Surely you have rock-solid evidence for that causat.....er...."correlation" as well....right?
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ORIGINAL: domiguy

You supply the evidence to refute it.   I could care less.  I know what I know.


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It really is enough...I don't need to be shown that people that cut themselves have issues...I know it.  I don't need to be shown that prostitutes come form worse environments than people that choose not to whore themselves out...I know this.  I don't need to be shown the same for strippers...I know this.

The same goes for "no-limit" subs...I know what lies in the majority of their pasts. Pretty simple straight forward shit... the kind of "straight forward shit" that people really have a difficult time comprehending out here. 

I'm not talking about splitting hairs...I am talking about a woman that says she will follow blindly wherever  her Dom leads. That is the "no-limit" sub in question.  The one that has no soul...lol.



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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 2:53:53 PM   
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It really is enough...I don't need to be shown that people that cut themselves have issues...I know it.  I don't need to be shown that prostitutes come form worse environments than people that choose not to whore themselves out...I know this.  I don't need to be shown the same for strippers...I know this.


Really?
 
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/weird/Laid-Off-Wall-Streeters-Turn-To-Strip-Clubs.html



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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 3:03:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: marie2
I don't personally believe that any sane human being is completely without boundaries (or limits) in general.


Couldn't agree more.  I suspect domiguy is on the same page, to be honest.

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What a lot of these couples mean when they say "we have a no-limits relationship" is that the "sub"/"slave" has found someone that they will allow to lead them, because he/she has a desire to relinquish control and allow the "dom"/"master" to be the one to decide when,  how, where, how far, how fast etc.


Yes, but the problem is this:  what in the WORLD distinguishes the scenario you're describing from the vast majority of BDSM relationships that involve some sort of long-term commitment?  In what way is this relationship supposed to be different from what anyone and everyone else is doing?  Because what you're talking about here is not unusual or special, in my experience--it is actually much closer to the "standard practice" for the majority of d/s couples.

The dominant leads/commands, the submissive follows/obeys.  Absence of a formal safeword.  Is this all that is required to qualify for the "no limits" label that so many people use to lord it over others, claiming superior intimacy and "purer" dominance/submission?  And if this is all that is really involved, why do they so often feel the need to make outlandish claims about what they could do and would do if the mood struck them?

Personally, I think if people want a serious answer to the question of "Why does this phrase stir such strong reactions?"--this is your answer.  The rhetoric and the bravado of the "No-Limits" relationship is always centered on real harm.  The dominant brags that he/she can and will do real harm if they please; the submissive brags that he/she will passively endure real harm and real abuse without resistance or complaint.

This is not only a huge turn off for an ethically responsible human being--it also sets off an enormous number of alarms and red flags.  It is political and social suicide to allow my community and by extension myself and my partners to ever be associated with the harms that these people are constantly bragging about.  Tolerating harm and abuse and defining them as "sexy" is NOT in my best interest as a member of the community, and a citizen of the real world--the place where real harm leads to real consequences.

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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 3:18:14 PM   
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Personally, I think if people want a serious answer to the question of "Why does this phrase stir such strong reactions?"--this is your answer.  The rhetoric and the bravado of the "No-Limits" relationship is always centered on real harm.  The dominant brags that he/she can and will do real harm if they please; the submissive brags that he/she will passively endure real harm and real abuse without resistance or complaint


Personally i have only come across one no limit slave who claims this.
 
 

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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 3:26:39 PM   
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The dominant leads/commands, the submissive follows/obeys.  Absence of a formal safeword.  Is this all that is required to qualify for the "no limits" label that so many people use to lord it over others, claiming superior intimacy and "purer" dominance/submission?  And if this is all that is really involved, why do they so often feel the need to make outlandish claims about what they could do and would do if the mood struck them.

Nobody representing they are in a 'no-limits' no 'safe-word' relationship has indicated anything of the sort in this, or any thread on the subject. It is you and your 'superior' required nay-saying that represents those things. Be it from fear, or some other agenda such as needing to belong and protect some 'community'; it really doesn't matter.

In our case, 'no-limits' and no 'safe-word' representing one thing - TRUST. Not trust that beth with cut off an arm to 'prove' to some stupid web surfing wanker to define it; but TRUST that represents a HEALTHY un-compromising relationship. Trust defined as knowing what the other person will do without having to stand over them, or threaten them, waiting to inflict consequence. Those 'brat' play scenarios have their place and can be fun, but power is only derived from one source. It is not transitory, and doesn't require permission for it to be used or enforced. Trust, from both sides, replaces the magic words and eliminates artificial borders of limits.

It does NOT require an abused childhood. It DOES require a complete personal confidence in yourself as much as your partner; regardless of which side of the flogger is preferred. Hell - you can switch and still have trust replace those crutches.

The prejudice of judging tattooed or pierced people as 'damaged' is abhorrent; as is the rationalized belief that every 'stripper' had a traumatic experience. Maybe those with that attitude are personifying their own rationalization for wanted, or needing, whatever they get out of WIITWD. I won't assume, but the closed mindedness of such a prejudicial opinion seems to indicates some deep seeded self loathing; or at minimum a complete lack of a real life, real time, reference point.

Rationalizing that the exact same sensation or experience coming within a relationship, or as a result of a first time meeting set up by a CM profile, using safe-words is somehow NOT representing abuse; but replacing the need of a safe-word with TRUST and personal knowledge of a partner represents abuse, an abusive past, or a need for self destruction!!??? Come on, even the Catholic Church couldn't sell that much hypocrisy!

But people believe a lot of things because taking the candle out from under the basket creates a light that hurts their eyes.

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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 3:29:33 PM   
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The trend continues here on CM wherein the new fems find the site and normally after about 30 to 60 days have found the " master" that they sought all their lives but just did not recognize their need until now.  This is a mouthful CP.  Breaking it down.  "New fems" could mean new on CM or new to WIITWD.I have noticed those new s fems who have already been owned or taken come to CM and if they find the forum boards, they say they are new s fems but stop there, so we go on exactly what they say, later to find out they came to CM owned.  That is how I came with my screen name, already owned, but I have been on CM with other screen names (which I no longer use) either given to me or as untaken/owned. I do find many divorced s fems who know enough fantasy (I am thinking of one in particular, I know their are others) and just enough to know they have been on the submissive side much of their life and realize if they find a "MASTER" they will be complete. As to the 30-60 days, ya I have noticed it.  I wait till they come here slamming him for something or another and its over with in 6 months.  Isn't that what LA expounds/reinforces, 6 months?
My thoughts center on expectancies on the part of these newly rewarded females or males as they have found the light and dedicated themselves to a "master"or mistress.  Ah yes, expectations.  I remember once and it just happens again to me, but the original story....A newly married couple wakes up the first day after their honeymoon, the groom asking for bacon and eggs and biscuits.  The wife dutifully does her best in the kitchen.  The groom is called to the table and his stomach turns.  He was expecting scrambled eggs (she prepared over easy), really crisp bacon (she make golden brown bacon with no crisp) and english muffins (he expected biscuits which meant and gravy).  I asked for a chair in a half when I went to a furniture liquidation sale, I was brought to an over stuffed beautiful red chair that would take 3 people to get my mom out of.  I didn't elaborate on my expectations so he took me to what he thought I expected to see.  I chalked it up to how better to communicate in the next store. They dedicate themselves to a fantasy idea of who a master should be in their thinking and forget to ask the tough questions.  Who are you.
Is there a understanding that a " master"/"mistress" carries the power of ultimate right to do as he/she desires. Does the sub/slave understand that if she or he is to be loaned out to friends for sexual pleasure or any other service; that it is to be complied with.  I read alot of castlerealm back in the day and submissive loving on the web and that went in one ear and out the other.  I was rudely awakened.  I read one of Claudia Varrin's books and got a better look at reality.  Even Dominant Loving didn't tell me that the owner would whore me out and I had a choice because that was not in the initial get to know you and your desires phase.
 for myself i do not think there is an awareness but i look to others for their thoughts, be yee " D " or " s" .
There is an awareness of false expectations as new s types.Men know what they want,  They are the hand.  And if a glove s fem type doesn't fit his hand....several choices 1.  make it fit, and both are unhappy2.  try for a few months and then make the choice to leave3.  know the fit is wrong and say so Women want love in their relationship and men demand respect. If the man is not respected he will not show actions followed by words of love.If women do not feel loved, they don't give respect. How vital is communication??  It is like unto the very breath we breath not knowing their in a respiratory exchange going on.


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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 3:33:42 PM   
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Nobody representing they are in a 'no-limits' no 'safe-word' relationship has indicated anything of the sort in this, or any thread on the subject.


Y'know, if this statement was actually true--even in this thread alone--there would not be so much misunderstanding.

I am sorry if you feel you are being unfairly associated with these claims, but it is not my doing; the honest truth is that I have heard this over and over, from many people.  I suspect that domiguy has heard it too, and may even have been approached by one too many of the women who are genuinely looking for a man to demolish them.

I've even had other dominants say these sort of things about their submissives to my face at public events and in conversation as well.

These things may not be true, but they are being said.

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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 3:47:02 PM   
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It really is enough...I don't need to be shown that people that cut themselves have issues...I know it.  I don't need to be shown that prostitutes come form worse environments than people that choose not to whore themselves out...I know this.  I don't need to be shown the same for strippers...I know this.


Really?
 
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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 3:49:18 PM   
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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 4:00:34 PM   
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Nobody representing they are in a 'no-limits' no 'safe-word' relationship has indicated anything of the sort in this, or any thread on the subject.


Y'know, if this statement was actually true--even in this thread alone--there would not be so much misunderstanding.

I am sorry if you feel you are being unfairly associated with these claims, but it is not my doing; the honest truth is that I have heard this over and over, from many people.  I suspect that domiguy has heard it too, and may even have been approached by one too many of the women who are genuinely looking for a man to demolish them.

I've even had other dominants say these sort of things about their submissives to my face at public events and in conversation as well.

These things may not be true, but they are being said.
Well, the statement represented that you quoted and doubt IS true for us. It is what I represent as my relationship; so believe it or not - it's true.

In other instances, ever consider the source? When I log on to CM I don't believe that there really are 15 beautiful 20-something year old woman who can't wait to meet me. I learned the hard way when I first explored the possibilities offered by the internet that not every representation is reflecting truth. That doesn't cover those who claim to enjoy a heavy cane play; who when you meet them have caning experience limited to reading the word 'WHACK!' on their monitor.

I'll go as far as agree with you in principle that what people represent and say seems silly. I've have people who don't know me offer themselves to me representing they are 'no-limits', no 'safe-word' people. After I laugh, I say - "hang on a minute I always wanted to do that 'chainsaw scene'; I try to counsel them that they should be careful, because someone will take them seriously. Not one, in my experience, had any idea of the implication of those words. Maybe you're right - it's a new 'claim to fame' but that isn't the perspective I bring to the table regarding my relationship with beth. It's not bragging, special, or superior. I don't represent myself as an exception by refusing to engage them in play, Instead I try to point out that they've put the cart before the horse and it would be best to get their priorities straight and first determining if the person getting that offer first earn the required trust. In fact, in my 'community' that is a pretty standard response.

The legend of the "Sacrifice of Abraham" is often used as a reference when this topic is discussed. Everyone should keep in mind that in reality Abraham's son was NOT sacrificed. The is no power, including a burning bush, that would get me to even consider such a sacrifice of beth. We would have never journeyed up the mountain in the first place. 

Don't assume when the reference is made that anyone would. It is more likely that, like the abusive past, it represents the exception - not the rule; as many responses to this thread seem to imply. 

No need to be "sorry"; unfair or not - we are associated with the claims made. Not trying to change your mind regarding them; simply wanting to provide our perspective to consider.

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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 5:03:27 PM   
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It really is enough...I don't need to be shown that people that cut themselves have issues...I know it.  I don't need to be shown that prostitutes come form worse environments than people that choose not to whore themselves out...I know this.  I don't need to be shown the same for strippers...I know this.


Really?
 
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/weird/Laid-Off-Wall-Streeters-Turn-To-Strip-Clubs.html




So nice that she is making $160,000 per year...Not.  People will believe anything that they read....Not this cowboy. I gotsa brain and I tend to use it.

She no longer strips. Guess the lure of $160,000 wasn't enough.  She got drunk and got on the pole after being dumped by her boyfriend.

I use my gut and I am rarely wrong...Again it's the whole common sense thing that is sorely lacking out on this site.

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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 9:52:34 PM   
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The legend of the "Sacrifice of Abraham" is often used as a reference when this topic is discussed. Everyone should keep in mind that in reality Abraham's son was NOT sacrificed. The is no power, including a burning bush, that would get me to even consider such a sacrifice of beth. We would have never journeyed up the mountain in the first place. 


I appreciate this information. It's becoming clear where these conversational problems are coming from. If there are two very, very different definitions of the phrase "No Limits" that are both operating simultaneously in this community, the fact that the two definitions directly contradict one another would naturally generate a lot of chaos. Those of us who don't use this label in our own lives are having it defined by others we meet, who call themselves "No Limits" and then give us a definition of the term and the relationship it implies. When the people who use the phrase contradict each other about its meaning and implications, there's no way an outsider can avoid confusion.



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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 10:32:39 PM   
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found this the other day.  thought it might add a bit of oxygen to the fire, so to speak

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RE: The Power or " Right" - 3/31/2009 10:56:21 PM   
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I know it....
...I know this.
...I know this.


It must be nice living in a fantasy world where you can wish knowledge for yourself into existence by merely saying so.

Aren't you the type to rail against subs who would pine over vacuous "because I say so" ideas? Do you function differently in private, because I can't see how your adherence to made-up answers isn't completely hypocritical to your position that subs should make intelligent decisions as to the intellectual competence of the D-types they select...


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RE: The Power or " Right" - 4/1/2009 12:09:29 AM   
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He has the right even to take my life...he does not have the rigth to take another's.



I am sure I will upset many with my first post here but really this smacks to me of someone who is really mentally unstable.  NOBODY has the right to take anothers life. If you are in a relationship where you think your partner / owner/ Master has the right to kill you then you need help NOW.

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RE: The Power or " Right" - 4/1/2009 2:20:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe she's not exactly mentally ill...just a bit over enthousiastic about the whole 'i'm being very submissive' thing...off course her Dom does not have the right to kill her...i mean there's a law against killing i believe...even a no-limit person is protected (all tho they might see it as being hampered)

< Message edited by ranja -- 4/1/2009 2:23:01 AM >

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