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ORIGINAL: domiguy

It really is enough...I don't need to be shown that people that cut themselves have issues...I know it.  I don't need to be shown that prostitutes come form worse environments than people that choose not to whore themselves out...I know this.  I don't need to be shown the same for strippers...I know this.

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The same goes for "no-limit" subs...I know what lies in the majority of their pasts. Pretty simple straight forward shit... the kind of "straight forward shit" that people really have a difficult time comprehending out here. 

I'm not talking about splitting hairs...I am talking about a woman that says she will follow blindly wherever  her Dom leads. That is the "no-limit" sub in question.  The one that has no soul...lol.

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

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It really is enough...I don't need to be shown that people that cut themselves have issues...I know it.  I don't need to be shown that prostitutes come form worse environments than people that choose not to whore themselves out...I know this.  I don't need to be shown the same for strippers...I know this.

Really?
 
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/weird/Laid-Off-Wall-Streeters-Turn-To-Strip-Clubs.html

So nice that she is making $160,000 per year...Not.  People will believe anything that they read....Not this cowboy. I gotsa brain and I tend to use it.

She no longer strips. Guess the lure of $160,000 wasn't enough.  She got drunk and got on the pole after being dumped by her boyfriend.

I use my gut and I am rarely wrong...Again it's the whole common sense thing that is sorely lacking out on this site.

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ORIGINAL: subliscious

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

He has the right even to take my life...he does not have the rigth to take another's.

I am sure I will upset many with my first post here but really this smacks to me of someone who is really mentally unstable.  NOBODY has the right to take anothers life. If you are in a relationship where you think your partner / owner/ Master has the right to kill you then you need help NOW.

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut
Just because someone has the right to do something doesn't mean they are going to.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut
Just because someone has the right to do something doesn't mean they are going to.

Sorry to barge in so late in the convo, but I've been watching for a while (scared to intervene, because the passions run so high).

I had to say something here: he doesn't have the right to take her life, no matter what he may have convinced her of. For anyone to say 'my dominant/master/owner has the right to take my life' is false, and therefore irrelevant to the conversation: I can see why it would come across as posturing to the more cynical amongst us.

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

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Personally, I think if people want a serious answer to the question of "Why does this phrase stir such strong reactions?"--this is your answer.  The rhetoric and the bravado of the "No-Limits" relationship is always centered on real harm.  The dominant brags that he/she can and will do real harm if they please; the submissive brags that he/she will passively endure real harm and real abuse without resistance or complaint

Personally i have only come across one no limit slave who claims this.
 
 

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Spanking between consenting adults isn't illegal. Murder is.

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ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

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Personally, I think if people want a serious answer to the question of "Why does this phrase stir such strong reactions?"--this is your answer.  The rhetoric and the bravado of the "No-Limits" relationship is always centered on real harm.  The dominant brags that he/she can and will do real harm if they please; the submissive brags that he/she will passively endure real harm and real abuse without resistance or complaint

Personally i have only come across one no limit slave who claims this.
 
 

me to. More often that not, the s-type that says he or she is "no-limit" does so in the realm of the relationship with an individual that he or she knows will never do them real harm. So that inside the bonds of a "safe" relationship, they are free to live inside of boundaries of the Dominant's limits and don't have to add more boundaries with limits of his or her own. So then those individuals hold no limits or their own, but trust in the limits that the Dominant has.

heartfelt

Exactly

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ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub
More often that not, the s-type that says he or she is "no-limit" does so in the realm of the relationship with an individual that he or she knows will never do them real harm. So that inside the bonds of a "safe" relationship, they are free to live inside of boundaries of the Dominant's limits and don't have to add more boundaries with limits of his or her own. So then those individuals hold no limits of their own, but trust in the limits that the Dominant have.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Spanking between consenting adults isn't illegal. Murder is.

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Spanking between consenting adults isn't illegal. Murder is.

In the eyes of the law it's assault and therefore illegal.
Did you know (obviously not) that when partaking in a little otk if you were busted, your dom could be done for assault and yourself for aiding and abetting?

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There is no such thing as a no limits human being. By the nature of our membership in the human race we all have limits.

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub
More often that not, the s-type that says he or she is "no-limit" does so in the realm of the relationship with an individual that he or she knows will never do them real harm. So that inside the bonds of a "safe" relationship, they are free to live inside of boundaries of the Dominant's limits and don't have to add more boundaries with limits of his or her own. So then those individuals hold no limits of their own, but trust in the limits that the Dominant have.

I could claim to be an airline pilot if I knew with certainty that my ability to fly would never be tested by actually having to get into the cockpit of a plane, getting it off the ground and safely landing it again.

I have no limits that Sir would ever exceed. Actually, his limits are far more conservative than my own. So by the above reasoning I could essentially profess myself to be no limits. But I don't....because whether or not he tests the limits that I do have....I still have them. Just like everybody else does. There is no such thing as a no limits human being. By the nature of our membership in the human race we all have limits.

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Spanking between consenting adults isn't illegal. Murder is.

In the eyes of the law it's assault and therefore illegal.
Did you know (obviously not) that when partaking in a little otk if you were busted, your dom could be done for assault and yourself for aiding and abetting?

Not quite. When a man is charged with assault generally his "victim" isn't prosecuted as well. Unless the laws in Britian are vastly different than here, and if that's the case, how unfair. However, common sense dictates that is just isn't so.

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Sad that you even have to quantify that. This is the oddest thread I have seen in a long time. How does a little OTK spanking get in the same category as your owner whacking you? . Oh, for my Brit friends, that's whack as in Tony Soprano style.

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Exactly erin. I don't think these women can deal with the fact they are indeed no different, no more "real" or no more authentic than any of us that have submitted to a man where we have no safewords or limits either.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

The legend of the "Sacrifice of Abraham" is often used as a reference when this topic is discussed. Everyone should keep in mind that in reality Abraham's son was NOT sacrificed. The is no power, including a burning bush, that would get me to even consider such a sacrifice of beth. We would have never journeyed up the mountain in the first place. 

I appreciate this information. It's becoming clear where these conversational problems are coming from. If there are two very, very different definitions of the phrase "No Limits" that are both operating simultaneously in this community, the fact that the two definitions directly contradict one another would naturally generate a lot of chaos. Those of us who don't use this label in our own lives are having it defined by others we meet, who call themselves "No Limits" and then give us a definition of the term and the relationship it implies. When the people who use the phrase contradict each other about its meaning and implications, there's no way an outsider can avoid confusion.

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Besides, this is besides the point. The point is that a person never has the right to take away someone's life, unless their own is in some kind of danger. If a Dom feels the need to assert such a thing to a submissive, they're either delusional, or lying, or both, and a submissive that accepts this is in with the wrong crowd. Spanking or no spanking  .

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

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There is no such thing as a no limits human being. By the nature of our membership in the human race we all have limits.

There is no such thing as a lot of things people claim to be in bdsm but does that mean we just throw them out as being non - existant too?