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LadyEllen -> RE: Gaza - the facts emerge (3/29/2009 6:05:38 AM)
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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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The palestinians allow a terrorist organization to hide amongst them and there is a price to be paid for that. I feel bad for the innocents who died but I can't see any way around it if the palestinian people continue to support genocidal terrorists.
One has to wonder what the view might have been, had the British sealed off half of Belfast, allowing in only a tiny proportion of the food and water required by the population there, denying the residents health resources and cutting off the power for a few years, before bombarding it for several days with battlefield munitions designed for open war theatres and delivered by artillery and from the air, prior to driving tanks in and flattening homes and businesses in an attempt to kill or capture the few hundred IRA and Sinn Fein members that lived there?
One tends to think that had the British done all that and not killed any civilians, the outcry worldwide - and perhaps especially from north America - would have been deafening, with barely a mention of the terrorist nature of the targets of the operation. The British would have become pariahs overnight, regarded without question as war criminals and pursued by international law enforcement to the ends of the Earth. How much more so had they managed to kill as much as one civilian inadvertently, let alone several hundred including women and children - and how much more so still were there the slightest evidence that such deaths had been anything but accidental. Arguments about terrorists hiding amongst the population would simply not have been accepted.
Still, there is so clearly nothing in common between the above situation and that of Gaza that its hardly worth discussing.
E
Two things, fisrt no one is starving in Gaza despite propoganda you've apparently heard. Starvation is visually diagnosable, distinctive swollen belly is the most telling, and you won't ever see that from Gaza.
Secondly you might want to go over my posting history before trying to tie the IRA to me. I have always opposed terrorists whether they be my Irish cousins or Arabs. If Derry housed a terror group whose stated goal was the eradication of the Protestants who routinely randomly killed civilians throughout England then I would be completely comfortable with rooting out those terrorists by what ever means were necessary.
Indeed, no starvation (though such wasnt mentioned). Luckily those damned Palestinians are a resourceful bunch what with digging tunnels through which to access food and so on; though one would wonder how isolated Republicans might have managed something similar in my scenario, given the very different geology and all those underground service utilities. But of course, we know that Palestinians dont bring food and medical supplies through those tunnels - only terrible weapons of mass destruction with which to destroy their neighbours - after all, Israel wouldnt and hasnt imposed a blockade on Gaza at all so there is no need to smuggle food.
As for your group of Republicans in Derry - are you truly saying that you would give your blessing to imposing upon the city the same circumstances as found in Gaza (blockade, cutting off utilities et al) for a few years, before launching a coordinated attack on the city, to include the destruction of homes, businesses, hospitals and schools and the inevitable slaughter of innocent civilians that occurs in such a scenario, in order to kill or capture perhaps a few dozen, maybe at the outside a couple of hundred terrorists?
And further, given this, why doesnt the US simply employ the same strategy to deal with "problem neighbourhoods" in its cities? After all, it is predominantly from these neighbourhoods that so much death and destruction of other neighbourhoods arises by way of violence, robberies, drugs and so on. The only difference is that these "problem neighbourhoods" are regarded as a criminal problem rather than a political problem (though the application of such distinctions is in itself a political issue), and they continue to threaten the US as a whole despite all other measures. ah - but wait; the Palestinian matter is one of criminality too of course, since they are not regarded as having a valid political aim, which is why we call them terrorists rather than freedom fighters.
So the path is then clear - seal off "problem neighbourhoods" in Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington, New York. Keep the residents in and keep control of what food, medical supplies, water and power go in. Crime problems stopped overnight, surely? And it that doesnt work, and the inhabitant continue to misbehave, send in the National Guard to teach them a lesson.
But somehow I cant see the US going for such a strategy; I wonder why its good enough for Gaza but beyond consideration in the States?
E
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