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OrionTheWolf -> RE: Yet another cigarette tax hike... (4/2/2009 7:27:33 AM)
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ORIGINAL: TheUtopian
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Did I mention addiction? Did you address any of the questions I asked? Is ADHD a real affliction?
Now to address your inaccuracies.
1) It is addictive, the studies and research are there and support this. You can refuse to believe it, just like people refuse to believe that man actually made it to the moon.
2) Addictions can be overcome, it happens all the time. It takes more than willpower alone, and if you knew anything about addictions you would know it is a battle against your own mind.
3) As far as the boot camps, many convicts are smokers and go into no smoking facilities for onths to years, and on the day they are released they light up.
Now as to the tax, would you care to address any of the questions, or are you just posting to bait and flame?
Get over yourself. If you didn't get the facetious tone I'd say you're the one who needs to pay better attention.
Nah, would rather not get over myself, I am quite confident in what I know and do. As far as tone, and facetious, maybe you should look up those definitions and apply them correctly.
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As to the addiction aspect of the post - I stand by it completely. I was surrounded by smokers in the bar business for over ten years, and every single smoker I've known on personal level who's quit successfully, has walked away straight up cold turkey. I don't buy the '' I'm addicted...can't quit crap for second '' It's a load of crap. Period.
Oh I get it. You are one of those that refute scientific evidence unless you can actually see it. Guess you do not believe in atomic power either, eh? There are many methods out there to stop smoking, maybe you should research it or you can keep talking about something you obviously know nothing about.
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To the taxes... I'm on record in similar threads, not supporting them. But like I said, if one thing has to go, it might as well be smoking. And you answered your own question - The sugary foods/junk food is surely next. That's the kind misrepresentation you get when you're constantly tricked into electing the same type of politicians over and over.
- R
You did not address the questions, but that was expected.
Vices are usually things that people should not do at all, or not in excess. Apparently smoking is a vice. Usually society wants people to stop vices. If you tax a vice and then apply that money to an important program, then you really do not want that vice to go away, because it would stop funding this very special and important program. Any comments on that specifically?
Would have to find the stats again, but it showed (if memory serves me properly) that the majority of smokers were lower income wage earners. This means that the tax is being paid by lower income people, which have less money. Any comments about that?
Your last paragraph states your position is that you do not support the tax, but in this case since it is something you really dislike you do support the tax. Is that correct? If so, would that not mean that your principles and convictions are flexiable depending upon who is getting screwed by the government?
You will notice that I have tried to pull this back to the OP. If you do not wish to address these questions, I will understand.
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