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ORIGINAL: DemonKia

Firstly, Radical Honesty is guided by two basic principles: (1) 100% honesty, & (2) speaking whatever comes into one's head, spontaneously & without filter . .. . . .

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

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I'm going to be radically honest, just this once: I don't think ~anybody~ practices radical honesty ALL of the time.  If they claim to, I think they are full of it.

I worked at a casino years ago. One night a guy playing one of the machines near by said "I'm ahead almost $4000 dollars, what would you do?" I said, take the money and run. My boss was standing behind me, she didn't appreciate that and told me that the goal was to get them to spend the money. My reply was "He asked what I would do and that's exactly what I would do".
 
I worked in retail for a while, in an electronics and home office department of a large, well known, store. They only sold one brand of computer, a brand that to this day I still refuse to say nice things about. I also worked on commission. Customers would come in and say they were looking for a good computer. My reply? "Have you considered shopping someplace else?" I told them that if they insisted I would sell them on of ours but I wouldn't tell them I thought it was a "good" computer. One elderly couple came in one day and told me they were looking for a computer because their kids all lived all over the country and they wanted to be able to email back and forth with them. They knew absolutely nothing about computers. I could have sold them one hellova set up and they'd never know it was five times the computer they needed. Instead, I sent them to the public library where they were offering classes for free to senior citizens on computers. That way they could shop and know exactly what they needed. And of course my personal favorite. The IEEP cable for printers. Where I worked they were between $13 and $20. Of course people complained, that's not cheap!! Generally I would tell them to check Big Lots, most of the time they had that exact same cable for a couple of bucks.
 
In the end? I made loyal customers that only bought from me when they came in because I was so honest with them. Like the article said, people are a lot more open to honesty then most give them credit for.
 
And your scenerio? Been there... and we had a wonderful date. I still have a copy of his CD. (turned out he was a jazz musician).
 
Jewel

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ORIGINAL: DemonKia

Firstly, Radical Honesty is guided by two basic principles: (1) 100% honesty, & (2) speaking whatever comes into one's head, spontaneously & without filter . .. . . 

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I'm particularly interested in BDSM folks' take on this, given how important honesty is in WIIWD . .. . .

Do you practice Radical Honesty? Just in your BDSM relationships, or in your vanilla life, also? If you don't, are you interested, or not, in pursuing the idea? Do you think Radical Honesty would enhance the kink world or detract from it? Are you ready to have those around you, everywhere, blurt out whatever they're thinking, all the time?

So, for instance, my parents emphasized honesty quite intensely & I tend to think of myself as living at a pretty crispy-intense level of honesty -- some people can be really uncomfortable with the level of bluntness that I'm comfortable with, & I irregularly get that 'too much info' reaction from others . . .. . But, in the long run greater levels of honesty have tended to serve me, & so Radical Honesty sounds exciting & intriguing to my ears . . . . & it certainly seems like a dynamic that's very consistent with BDSM relationships . .. ... .

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this . . .. . . .

Best,
The Demon, Kia

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

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I'm going to be radically honest, just this once: I don't think ~anybody~ practices radical honesty ALL of the time.  If they claim to, I think they are full of it.

I worked at a casino years ago. One night a guy playing one of the machines near by said "I'm ahead almost $4000 dollars, what would you do?" I said, take the money and run. My boss was standing behind me, she didn't appreciate that and told me that the goal was to get them to spend the money. My reply was "He asked what I would do and that's exactly what I would do".
 
I worked in retail for a while, in an electronics and home office department of a large, well known, store. They only sold one brand of computer, a brand that to this day I still refuse to say nice things about. I also worked on commission. Customers would come in and say they were looking for a good computer. My reply? "Have you considered shopping someplace else?" I told them that if they insisted I would sell them on of ours but I wouldn't tell them I thought it was a "good" computer. One elderly couple came in one day and told me they were looking for a computer because their kids all lived all over the country and they wanted to be able to email back and forth with them. They knew absolutely nothing about computers. I could have sold them one hellova set up and they'd never know it was five times the computer they needed. Instead, I sent them to the public library where they were offering classes for free to senior citizens on computers. That way they could shop and know exactly what they needed. And of course my personal favorite. The IEEP cable for printers. Where I worked they were between $13 and $20. Of course people complained, that's not cheap!! Generally I would tell them to check Big Lots, most of the time they had that exact same cable for a couple of bucks.
 
In the end? I made loyal customers that only bought from me when they came in because I was so honest with them. Like the article said, people are a lot more open to honesty then most give them credit for.
 
And your scenerio? Been there... and we had a wonderful date. I still have a copy of his CD. (turned out he was a jazz musician).
 
Jewel

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

A fancy new name for being an asshole is what I hear.

Honesty is great, something I treasure.  However, saying things without filters, without thinking of the timing, phrasing, and impact and calling it enlightened is the sort of bullshit that turned me off to new age thinking.

Telling someone you want to fuck someone else right before an interview is certainly honest but waiting till afterwards seems a bit more constructive and is every bit as honest.

Telling someone they look like a fat cow in that dress on their first day of work is honest but is going to undermine their self image on a day they need every bit of it.  One could either just find something nice to say OR suggest a different dress that you think they look amazing in.

Telling a dear friend that they need to pull their head out of their ass or you are going to drop the friendship is harsh but has to be said.  However, one can soften it in any number of ways and still be honest.

In short, this is a shiny badge people can slap on their normal mean spirited crap in order to feel their honesty is somehow more shiny than anyone elses.

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ORIGINAL: MissEnchanted

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

A fancy new name for being an asshole is what I hear.

Honesty is great, something I treasure.  However, saying things without filters, without thinking of the timing, phrasing, and impact and calling it enlightened is the sort of bullshit that turned me off to new age thinking.

Telling someone you want to fuck someone else right before an interview is certainly honest but waiting till afterwards seems a bit more constructive and is every bit as honest.

Telling someone they look like a fat cow in that dress on their first day of work is honest but is going to undermine their self image on a day they need every bit of it.  One could either just find something nice to say OR suggest a different dress that you think they look amazing in.

Telling a dear friend that they need to pull their head out of their ass or you are going to drop the friendship is harsh but has to be said.  However, one can soften it in any number of ways and still be honest.

In short, this is a shiny badge people can slap on their normal mean spirited crap in order to feel their honesty is somehow more shiny than anyone elses.

SimplyMichael


I wholeheartedly agree with all that you said above, however I do not understand exactly what you meant by 'turned me off to new age thinking'

I think of 'new age thinking' to be something that causes one to have well-balanced communication, with consideration and a LACK of brutality.

I looked it up on google but wasn't able to easily decipher how you were applying it here.

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ORIGINAL: ranja

and i honestly have no clue what WIIWD means