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DemonKia -> RE: Radical Honesty (6/5/2009 1:32:02 AM)

I've been wanting to pop this back up for a while. Amongst other things I've been thinking about with regard to the idea of 'extreme honesty' has been this quote that stood out when I re-read the article after this thread had moved into the depths of the General forum:

"I advocate never lying in personal relationships. But if you have Anne Frank in your attic and a Nazi knocks on the door, lie....I lie to any government official. I lie to the IRS. I always take more deductions than are justified. I lie in golf. And in poker." - Brad Blanton, founder of the Radical Honesty 'movement'

A little more nuanced than the blunt spin I gave in my OP . . . . . [;)]

After having hung out on the boards for a while I'm actually more convinced that in general there's a lot of kinksters practicing or trying to practice something very close to the notion of 'Radical Honesty' . . . . .

I think I might have more to say, but I'm interested in seeing what else might be wrung out of this thread . . . . . .




ChasingOblivion -> RE: Radical Honesty (6/5/2009 2:40:17 AM)

I consider myself to be a very blunt and honest person. I have been told numerous times by my friends that I have (and I quote) "all the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face."
If anyone asks me a question, I will answer it honestly, regardless of whether or not my answer would be seen as rude because I think that in the long run it's far more rude to avoid telling the truth to spare someones feelings. Now, of course there are some things I simply don't say in public because there might be children present and/or in my opinion, in a polite society, certain language and/or topics of conversation just aren't appropriate for public consumption. 
You also have to consider who you're talking to. For example, the overweight hispanic woman in the lime green pantsuit I saw at the grocery store this evening very much looked like a half-peeled kiwi fruit, but I doubt she would have appreciated my saying so. You need to have a certain amount of tact, because there is a fine line between "radical honesty," and just being an ass.




Jeptha -> RE: Radical Honesty (6/6/2009 9:01:20 PM)

I did look at a book of his recently and read what I thought was an interesting quote;

" Don't imagine that what you think is very important. It is all stuff you are making up."

He kind of couched it in a buddhist framework, with the idea that much of what we take for reality is illusion.

Then I had to bring the book back to the library.

Mebbe I'll get it out again sometime, though.

In the meantime, I wanted to post this, as I realize that it relates to something I rambled on about earlier in this thread. I'd read this as a kid, and it made an impression on me. Maybe it was rolling around in my subconscious when I was talking about therapy groups earlier (it is a therapy group of sorts....)

It describes "Mutual Criticism", a technique used in the Oneida Community, a late 19th century commune in upstate New York.

Members would take turns enduring the criticism of members of the community in a structured, but still free flowing way that was said to have been pretty intense.


"The system is one of plain truth-telling, and was termed "mutual" because it was expected that all, or nearly all, would alternate as critic and subject. Sometimes persons were criticized by a standing committee selected for the purpose by the Community, sometimes by committees of their own selection, sometimes by the whole Community. The critics were expected in all cases to speak the truth without fear or favour, that the subject might see himself, whatever his faults or virtues, as others saw him."

I've posted this before elsewhere - sorry for the repetition.




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