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SourandSweet -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/30/2011 6:29:33 AM)

I agree, it is.  Maybe I worded it wrong.

I mean the word 'accused' should not be in there.  Its use in this context should be viewed as being as daft as someone being 'accused' of being straight.

I may seem overly fussy, but there is a strong link between language usuage and behaviour.  So, although I doubt this thread was created with any overt homophobia in mind its title does (imho) reinforce, and indeed reflect, the subtle, ingrained homophobia that still exists even in western societies.

And therefore should be highlighted wherever possible.

I'm a bundle of laughs at parties too!



TotalDiscipline -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/30/2011 6:45:09 AM)

yes accused..has this witch hunt..sound to it.
I understand now what you mean.

laughing at parties is good though..lol



xssve -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/31/2011 5:02:37 AM)

Well that is a actually a quandary in itself: the expectation of course, is that one will vehemently deny it, and denounce homosexuality - I really don't give a fuck - I have gay friends and family members, they don't make force me to have sex with them, or tell me who to fuck, or how, and all in all, of all groups or institutions, homosexual give the least amount of grief, so I'm inclined to be supportive - but if a rumor starts about you being gay, it puts a bit of a crimp in your sex life.

It's complicated, the fact that homosexuals are persecuted, means a lot of guys in the closet, often married - a bunch were arrested in the park in a sting operation a year or Two ago, caused quite a stir in this little town, lotta mortified women who had no idea their husbands were gay.

So on the one hand, it weeds out the narrow minded, but then one is in the position of seeking out fag hags, and then having to explain to them you're actually straight, lol.

The whole thing is fucking stupid, is really what it boils down to - i.e. homophobes are a much bigger pain in my ass than homosexuals have ever been, if they weren't so fucking hysterical, there would be no need for anybody to engage in deception, find beards, etc., it causes more problems that it's ever solved, and in fact, it is the problem.

Things have loosened up a bit under Obama, the repeal of DADT, etc, but that also means a backlash at some point, so far, it's been mild, but I suspect it'll heat up again around the next election.



RapierFugue -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/31/2011 5:08:23 AM)


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but if a rumor starts about you being gay, it puts a bit of a crimp in your sex life.


I used to work with a chap who was quite effete, but was heterosexual. He had to beat the blart off with a shitty stick, so many were the girls looking to "show him that he wasn't gay". I used to rip on him for being misleading, but he just wailed "I tell em I'm straight, but they don't believe me!". Like he should care - he was getting more than most - much more :)



xssve -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/31/2011 5:17:57 AM)

Yeah, I wish it worked that way around here, way too Narcissistic, all they care about is what the neighbors think. I even tell them that: "if you think I'm gay, the right thing to do would be to try and cure me, no"?

Thing is, deep down, I don't think they care either, the whole thing is political, the whole social conservatism shtick is just a ploy to get votes.

In fact, this is the whole crowd that redefined gay as anal sex rather than gender preference, it's straight out of the Westboro Baptist playbook.



RapierFugue -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/31/2011 5:20:28 AM)


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In fact, this is the whole crowd that redefined gay as anal sex rather than gender preference, it's straight out of the Westboro Baptist playbook.


Not having read the thread much, is the accusation now that anal with a girl constitutes gay-leanings then?



xssve -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/31/2011 5:27:15 AM)

Something like that, though I think it makes the woman gay too, I'm not really sure how that works, it really doesn't have to make sense, the town is small enough that they can make trouble for anybody they don't like and aren't personally acquainted with, that's all that matters.

This place made national news when they started a Gay/Straight Alliance club at a local High School, of which there are only Two - half the town turned up with pitchforks and torches - in the end they had to allow it or abolish all clubs, by Federal law.



RapierFugue -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/31/2011 5:31:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: xssve

Something like that, though I think it makes the woman gay too,


Ah, that old chestnut. Bilge, of course, but it's fun to point and laugh.

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ORIGINAL: xssve

I'm not really sure how that works, it really doesn't have to make sense, the town is small enough that they can make trouble for anybody they don't like and aren't personally acquainted with, that's all that matters.


Sounds like you need to move - that kind of attitude would send me postal in a minimal timeframe.

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ORIGINAL: xssve
This place made national news when they started a Gay/Straight Alliance club at a local High School, of which there are only Two - half the town turned up with pitchforks and torches


Intellect please save us from morons.



xssve -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/31/2011 5:56:19 AM)

I'm sure they'd love for me to move, I have no problem expressing my opinion about all this.



RapierFugue -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/31/2011 5:57:36 AM)


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I'm sure they'd love for me to move, I have no problem expressing my opinion about all this.


heh. Good for you, but watch your back (as it were).



xssve -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/31/2011 6:20:36 AM)

Fuck 'em, it's a free country.



RapierFugue -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/31/2011 7:13:32 AM)


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Fuck 'em, it's a free country.


Good on you :) Give em hell :)



CreativeDominant -> RE: Men, anal sex, and accusations of being gay (1/31/2011 7:27:34 AM)

I'm a sensualist as well as being a sadistic dominant.  I enjoy exploring each and every inch of a girl's body and checking her response.  One reason I enjoy fingering, biting, tongueing, fucking a girl's asshole is watching the changes flooding over her face...the fear, the excitement, the pain, the acceptance, the worry...all of those and more.  The pain especially tweaks the sadist.  What tweaks the sensualist is the difference in the way it feels to my fingers, my tongue, my cock to explore this area.

But...I am not just a sensualist in that I enjoy how every inch of her body feels.  I am a sensualist in that I love having MY body explored.  Every inch.  And I want a woman to be the one doing so.  My anus, loaded with nerve endings in the same manner as any female anus, gives me great pleasure when it is stimulated.  Stroking my prostate gland leads to harder erections and more forceful orgasms.  Is it something I expect to have done each time I play?  No.  Do I expect it during the course of a relationship?  Yes, I do...especially if she expects to have HER body explored.  Turnabout is fair play.

Does the fact that I enjoy anal make me gay?  How does appreciation of one's own body and of the female body indicate homosexual leanings?  If a girl enjoys pushing a dildo inside her pussy and then tasting the dildo, does that indicate...because she tasted and liked her own juices...that she now wants to lick other pussy?  From what I have heard, no it does not always indicate that.

If what we have been told over and over again by those wishing to prove that homosexuality is a matter of D.N.A. and not choice, then those that state that a fondness for some action while not wanting the same sex to provide it are destroying that case.



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