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SweetDommes -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 10:26:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ostrow30

It just means that you don't have the mommy-domme kink, right? If you did have that kink, wouldn't it mean you would be into younger men?



But what you said is that the other reasons that we gave are not really the reason that we don't like it - that it's only because we aren't into the mommy-domme kink that we don't want to be with younger men.  That may not be what you meant, but it is, indeed, what you said. 

Not to mention the fact that, as Shakti pointed out, most guys who are into that type of age play are older, not the 20somethings that this thread was about.




ostrow30 -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 10:32:29 PM)



Thanks for clearing that up for, ShaktiSama. I thought age play depended on the actual age, but I guess I stand corrected there.  Perhaps the OP should look for ads from older women who are looking for younger men, rather than waste his time wondering why other great dommes out there aren't that into him.

Really, a kind word correcting a person who is genuinely offering to help him out would have conveyed the fact that he's a mature gentleman. Maybe a lot of the rejections he's received were due to the fact the women found him lacking congeniality, and were just trying to be nice.

If he were a gentleman, he'd just kindly correct and help a well-meaner, and move on, and we'd all be happy and smarter, rather than trying to polarize the discussion and evoke antagonism. How is that constructive?




Lockit -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 10:36:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ostrow30

When you say "ugh", it's kinda derogatory, don't you think?
So are you all out to set me up as everyone's enemy or what? Calling everyone a liar? Nice. You're a real political player, aren't you? Thanks for trying to stir up the pot. Does that do something for you, or whats the deal here, guy?

If I misunderstood you're post, you could just correct me and move on, without trying to be offensive. I would try to explain it more, but I guess you're just not getting my point. Why don't you just look for an older woman posting for a younger man? I just don't get that.



You continue to point out where others are wrong in how they are speaking or posting and yet this is the fine example you have given of doing what you say is best to do.  Nice in theory... harder to play out eh?




SweetDommes -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 10:37:47 PM)

He evoked no antagonism from anyone but you.  You, on the other hand, evoked some antagonism from more than one because of what you said.

And for the record, Shakti is not the only one that pointed out that age play doesn't equate to actual ages ... guess that kind of lets us know who really reads the posts .... [sm=doh.gif]




ostrow30 -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 10:39:55 PM)

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But what you said is that the other reasons that we gave are not really the reason that we don't like it - that it's only because we aren't into the mommy-domme kink that we don't want to be with younger men. That may not be what you meant, but it is, indeed, what you said.

Not to mention the fact that, as Shakti pointed out, most guys who are into that type of age play are older, not the 20somethings that this thread was about.


  No, again, I'm sorry if that is how I came across, but I thought it did mean that you weren't into "age play", compounded with the other reasons you listed. I just thought that if you were into age play, that it would necessarily mean that you were into younger men. I'm sorry if I was wrong, but why not just kindly correct me? It's just a misunderstanding on my part...but to rephrase to the OP, replace the words in my post "age play" or "mommy domme" to just "dommes looking for younger men"? Then go for those ads?

I am not sure I agree that most men into age play are older. But I don't have any official statistics to back that up. Perhaps others have them. I know I've been wild for older women ever since I was *very* young!




SweetDommes -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 10:41:52 PM)

We did try to correct you earlier on ... but you decided to take offence at Mike's frustration and have just dug your hole deeper and deeper.  May I suggest that you bow out of this topic gracefully before you make yourself look worse than you already have?




LadyPact -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 10:43:21 PM)

It's not your fault that you didn't know better, but you might have an opportunity to learn from those who know the difference.




ostrow30 -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 10:48:02 PM)

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He evoked no antagonism from anyone but you. You, on the other hand, evoked some antagonism from more than one because of what you said.

And for the record, Shakti is not the only one that pointed out that age play doesn't equate to actual ages ... guess that kind of lets us know who really reads the posts ....

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  He evoked no antagonism from me until he decided to start getting snotty. My original reply was mean to be constructive. He decided to take it into another direction. I was only saying that if he wants to to find an older domme, then he should just look for ads from older dommes seeking younger, rather than asking all the people who aren't into younger men why they aren't. It would be like me struggling with trying to ask a bunch of women who aren't into crossdressers why they aren't into crossdressers, rather than just going out and seeking women who actually are into feminization.

  By the way, you should really learn how to spell "apology" before you bother putting the word in every signature you post.




Lockit -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 10:51:18 PM)

You continually insult Mike... you fail to see you part in any of this.  You say he got snotty... but not before you had three dominant's on your tail and you didn't address us... but Mike for an ugh and asking you if you thought we lied.. which it sounded like you did.  You will not be corrected because you do not have a teachable spirit in this.  You are wrong and I am done.




ostrow30 -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 10:53:21 PM)

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We did try to correct you earlier on ... but you decided to take offence at Mike's frustration and have just dug your hole deeper and deeper. May I suggest that you bow out of this topic gracefully before you make yourself look worse than you already have?


  I detected no kind correction, just derision, or didn't you read the posts, either? And frustration at a single post doesn't evoke antagonism except from those people who have a poor nature and bad manners.




ostrow30 -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 10:57:42 PM)

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You continually insult Mike... you fail to see you part in any of this. You say he got snotty... but not before you had three dominant's on your tail and you didn't address us... but Mike for an ugh and asking you if you thought we lied.. which it sounded like you did. You will not be corrected because you do not have a teachable spirit in this. You are wrong and I am done.


But Miss Karen, or Miss Holly would have us all believe I was just being "corrected", not that I have 3 dommes on my tail. Which one is it? Was I being kindly corrected, or was everyone jumping on me?

  And I had 3 dommes on my tail, and his happened to be the last in the list. If I would have responded to them, I would have been criticized for not responding to his post, it seems. How can I respond to everyone at once?

  And I don't have a teachable spirit? What are you talking about? I have said multiple times now that I stand corrected. Or did you just overlook those posts? I'm just offended that you've become so rude.




SweetDommes -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 10:59:36 PM)

I read my post quite clearly.  I asked you to speak for yourself and not for me ... I even said "please"  I did point out the difference between age play and actual ages - you ignored that.  You essentially called every Domme who posted in this thread a liar - you should be glad that the responses to that were as mild as they were.

And as rude as you were about it - thank you for pointing out that "apology" was misspelled.  I copied and pasted it from somewhere else and you are the first to point it out.  It has been corrected, so there will be no further need to be rude and nitpick at me simply because I think you're a jerk.




LadyPact -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 11:07:29 PM)

Dude, if you thought that was being jumped on, you haven't seen anything yet.  LOL.




ostrow30 -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 11:15:51 PM)

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I read my post quite clearly. I asked you to speak for yourself and not for me ... I even said "please" I did point out the difference between age play and actual ages - you ignored that. You essentially called every Domme who posted in this thread a liar - you should be glad that the responses to that were as mild as they were.


Why do you continually look for an excuse to claim that people were being offensive to you in spite of the fact that 5 times now I have apologized if I offended anyone and that it wasn't my intent? You continue to hold onto this rope, even though your hands are red and chafed. Why?

For the LAST time...I am very sorry if I offended anyone. I did  not mean to offend. I did not mean to call anyone a liar. I was ignorant in my understanding of what age play is.




ostrow30 -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 11:19:39 PM)



So here is my reworded post.

Mike, if you are looking for older dommes looking for younger, be encouraged. They are out there. Some women aren't into younger men, but there are some who do find that enjoyable. I have seen plenty of ads from older dommes looking for younger ones, so take heart, point your browser to those horizons and plunge in.

It sounds like many of the fine people posting here are not into that thing. I would go look for ones who are if that is your interest. Be well, everyone.




SweetDommes -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 11:20:31 PM)

You're totally missing the point.  My point now is that you said no one corrected you and we did attempt to - I did not jump (at first).  You chose to ignore it in place of other things. 




Lockit -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 11:21:17 PM)

Okay I thought I was done... I am not. 

An apology doesn't ring true when it comes with a pointing finger.  Each time you said you were sorry for offending... you pointed out someone else's fault as you saw it and failed to see all you were saying or doing even in that.




ostrow30 -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 11:32:14 PM)



Okay, I'm really sorry if I offended you or if I hurt your feelings. I hope you'll accept my apology.




ostrow30 -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/11/2009 11:36:06 PM)

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You're totally missing the point. My point now is that you said no one corrected you and we did attempt to - I did not jump (at first). You chose to ignore it in place of other things.


You're right, and I was wrong. I'm sorry if I mistook the tone of your post. I think that Mike's response sounded rude, and I think it framed the context of the other posts for me. So if you were just kindly trying to correct me, then I do indeed owe you an apology. I really hope you'll forgive me for being rude.




ostrow30 -> RE: Question for Dommes 35 and older. (4/12/2009 12:04:46 AM)



Also, just to try to wrap this up, re-reading my post I originally wrote, I can certainly see how it was worded terribly. It really did sound like I was saying that I thought people were being dishonest about what they were saying. Gosh - I'm very sorry, I really didn't mean it that way, even though I can see that is what came out! In my own mind, I was trying to make another point, but I did a really bad job of it, and I am the only one to blame for that. I reacted badly because I felt the responses were really harsh, while in my own mind I really hadn't intended to call anyone a liar or anything that I felt I was being accused of, so I really felt offended. I'm not saying that makes me right, I'm just offering an explanation. So, once again, I'm really sorry if I offended anyone with my *very* poorly written posting.




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