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DomKen -> RE: Why the GOP is unraveling. (5/9/2009 1:15:42 AM)
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ORIGINAL: CruelNUnsual
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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Reagan a traditional conservative? You're kidding right? Reagan's antics so distressed Barry Goldwater that Goldwater actually opposed many of his measures.
I do love how the right wingers are trying to dump GWB anywhere but on the extreme right where he so obviously belongs. He appointed "struct constructionists" to federal benches at all levels. While he didn't nuke anybody he did act unilaterally almost without exception. Basically you can go point by point down your list, most of which are the John Birch society or so positions not Goldwater's, and GWB is on or close to the red text on every one. Goldwater would have been outraged over GWB unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty, he did sue Carter over that same issue.
Traditional conservatives were fiscal conservatives, concerned with a balanced federal budget and pro business tax rates, and believed that international cooperations, as characterized by the UN and NATO, was the proper way to conduct foreign affairs. They stayed out of social issues. Social conservatism is the offspring of the Dominionists and their so called religious right.
As I said, dont try and comment on how conservatives think or what conservatives are. You dont have a fuckin clue.
Raised by conservatives, in a conservative part of the country. Studied political thought in college. Have actually read the definitive works by the leading thinkers on the US right of the past century. To see you attempting to rewrite history to suit your agenda would make Goldwater and William Buckley sick to their stomachs.
Just to be perfectly blunt any claim that social conservatism, as we see it now, was ever considered part of what was expected from traditional conservatives is so grossly wrong as to shock the senses. D. James Kennedy did not invent traditional conservatism and that his followers have taken over the GOP was something actual conservatives, Barry Goldwater quite prominently, fought against.
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