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IrishMist -> RE: branding (4/18/2009 5:10:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ExKat Since you're of an age that you couldn't possibly have been with your dom for more than a couple of years, I urge you to reconsider. As the others have said, brands are forever. If you're not ready to marry this dude, then you aren't ready to have his stamp on you forever. However, I'm generally too cautious for most types of body mods. If you've already got a tramp stamp and a Winnie the Pooh tat on your ankle, then why not? You'll already look silly when you're 70, might as well add another mark. I did not want to marry mine;10 years into the relationship, I still did not want to marry him; yet, I got branded, tattooed, cut, and pierced at his whim. Even though he's gone now, I would not wish one single marking gone.

InTonguesslut -> RE: branding (4/18/2009 5:45:08 AM)
quote: If you've already got a tramp stamp and a Winnie the Pooh tat on your ankle, then why not? You'll already look silly when you're 70, might as well add another mark. Ok this kind of comment really pisses me off. Tats, body mod, branding for me are all forms of self expression. I have 5 tats and every one of them has some meaning to me. There are many forms of self expression, clothing for example. In your pic you chose to express yourself by wearing a pink corset with black knickers. I perhaps think you look stupid in them but its your choice to wear them. Just as it is my choice to wear tats. You can remove that corset anytime you like and in my old age i can have my tats removed if i wish, expensive admittedly but effective nowadays. Your stuff is just cheaper to buy and cheaper to remove thats all. Now which looks cheaper, well thats personal opinion. ~On topic~ I love the idea of branding but think you should really read, read again and then probably read again steels post [:D]

CallaFirestormBW -> RE: branding (4/18/2009 6:26:19 AM)
quote: My idea is that being branded is a bad idea. It is dangerous, and you are a submissive; not livestock. Actually, it's not dangerous, as long as you have a skilled artist doing the work, and you follow proper aftercare procedures. Decorative branding has a long history of use in human body modification. For the OP, I would see what is available in terms of skilled artists within a reasonable travel distance, and consider whether you are talking about multi-strike branding or decorative (cautery) branding. Strike branding is deeper and leaves more lasting scars, but does not work for delicate designs or close-work. Cautery branding scars, on the other hand, often heal to where the scar diminishes substantially over a period of time, so it may not leave permanent marks or may have to be re-touched several times to get significant scarring. Even then, if you're not someone who scars, you may find that that amazing brand disappears in just a couple of years. On the other hand, if you're someone who develops keratin deposits or keloids, you may find that your beautiful, artistic brand becomes a lumpy mess and never goes away! Oh, don't underestimate the pain factor, either. Strike brands may not hurt up front as much, but they hurt for a LONG time after the fact. Cautery brands hurt now -- sort of like cutting or a tattoo, they just don't get hot enough to send the nerves into hiding, so they hurt straight through. Aftercare is -critical-, and you'll have to give up some things you may enjoy. You won't be able to take a tub bath for a while (depending on how extensive the brand is), or sit in a sauna or hot-tub. You'll have to be careful about how you dress, and about the activities you participate in. You may even have to forgo things like floggings, canings, etc., at least anywhere around where the healing brand is going for weeks, sometimes even -months-. If you have -any- kind of immune dysfunction, you don't want to get branded. Brands are -burns-, and the damaged tissue is -very- prone to infection. If you have diabetes or anything that delays healing, or if you take medications to thin your blood or moderate lymph function, kidney function, or have hypertension, you -don't- want to mess with branding. Try something safer, like scarification or tattoo (get your doctor's permission first if you have medical issues... that should be a no-brainer!). Before you decide on what you want, it is important to talk to a skilled brander, who can help you to develop a design based on the style of branding you are planning to have done, taking things like line-spread and your personal tendency to develop keloids into consideration. If you had the opportunity and time, you might consider one of the top branding artists in the world, Fakir. I believe he still has a studio in California. If I were going to have a permanent brand done, I would want him to do the work. Yes, he's expensive, and yes, he's a bear to get an appointment with (I think the last time I checked, it was almost a year-long wait), but to me, definitely worth it.

CallaFirestormBW -> RE: branding (4/18/2009 6:40:47 AM)
quote: If you've already got a tramp stamp and a Winnie the Pooh tat on your ankle, then why not? You'll already look silly when you're 70, might as well add another mark. Most of the individuals I know who go the body-mod route, myself included, don't give a rat's *ss what someone else thinks about whether they look "ridiculous". Most of us have considered, at length, the art that we decorate ourselves with, and I can say that, for myself, I thought about what it would mean to be a grandmother, great-grandmother, and have my body be a subject of medical research (since I'm donating my body) with my tattoos and piercings in place. I have extensive work planned, most of which will take me the next 20 years to complete (including an entire 11 piece Chakra set including both major and minor chakras), and I couldn't care less if someone thinks I look silly, since the pieces I've chosen have intrinsic meaning for me. My daughter is a body-mod artist. Every piece she wears is one that she drew and designed, and is a living record of her development as a visual artist and the path her career is taking. For her, also, she's chosen to show her life on her skin. There is -nothing- silly about that. Everyone has a reason -- just because you don't know or understand the reason doesn't make it 'silly'.

agirl -> RE: branding (4/18/2009 8:53:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mwright Master told me at the beginning of our relationship that when i was ready to be branded, to let him know. i'm ready but i want to do something special to let him know. any ideas? I don't have any specific ideas because you know him and I don't.........but I DO know that I got branded when HE thought I was ready for it. agirl

openhands2u -> RE: branding (4/18/2009 8:53:57 AM)
Lots to say about this subject. Branding is something I have been considering for a long time. My Master says a tattoo will do. For me, I want something more. Anyone can get a tat. Please all those who have tattoos don't take that the wrong way. It's that I want more expression for my Master. I do want a special tattoo, but I want the band more. When I came to be with my Master he took me to a professional and had my nipples and clithood pierced. The same shop does branding and I discussed this at length. While I love my piercings, I what something more. Scarification is too drastic for me. Branding is more what I want. We've not taken that step yet, but I am ready for it. I have done a lot of research on this and I know it's safe when done right and proper safety measures are taken. And NO you are not livestock and a brand on human flesh is done more gently to the area of our tender flesh. I'm not saying it won't hurt, I'm sure it will. Since I have done the research on this, I do know it can be safe and for gods sake don't do it in a kitchen by someone who has no idea what they are doing have a professional. They can make what you want with the proper tools. I do wish you good luck and hope you enjoy it and never regret it. Sincerely O

allthatjaz -> RE: branding (4/18/2009 9:26:57 AM)
We don't have pro branders in the UK, not officially anyway because its illegal but we do have people that are skilled at the practice. I was lucky enough to be taught by one of these experts and he explained that with a strike brand, if you dont strike deep enough then it will hurt like buggary. Perhaps Im just a total masochist but for each one of my brands I have sat chatting and having a conversation whilst its done (well not the first one but then I believed in my mind it was really going to hurt). I had no pain afterwords either, which again I expected. For the people I have branded, they have all been pleasantly surprised at how little it hurts and the reports back have been, no pain after but a mild itching some days later. For those that say its painful, I would be interested to know how you do the brand?

agirl -> RE: branding (4/18/2009 10:31:43 AM)
I had the initial shock and the sting..... jumped back and double-branded myself...lol It wasn't terribly painful when I compare it to other type of activities and pain. I'm just glad it's there and done now .....I'd probably be just as twitchy if I had to go through it again as it's been a couple of years now. Plus it gives me and the grandies stuff to compare....only their's is in green felt tip pen. agirl

fateddeath -> RE: branding (4/19/2009 7:58:17 AM)
my Master always marks his toys . He has placed his nickname on my left shoulder blade...that being "Death". i was VERY proud to display this for him. (chest swelling)

redheadredhead -> RE: branding (4/19/2009 8:41:53 AM)
May I ask under what circumstances your grandmother was branded? quote: ORIGINAL: allthatjaz quote: ORIGINAL: ExKat Since you're of an age that you couldn't possibly have been with your dom for more than a couple of years, I urge you to reconsider. As the others have said, brands are forever. If you're not ready to marry this dude, then you aren't ready to have his stamp on you forever. However, I'm generally too cautious for most types of body mods. If you've already got a tramp stamp and a Winnie the Pooh tat on your ankle, then why not? You'll already look silly when you're 70, might as well add another mark. Thats just your opinion though. My gran is in her 80s and has tats that she's still proud of. Maybe other people think she looks 'silly' but so long as she is happy eh?

antipode -> RE: branding (4/19/2009 10:33:01 AM)
quote: Actually, it's not dangerous, as long as you have a skilled artist doing the work, and you follow proper aftercare procedures. Decorative branding has a long history of use in human body modification. Branding, like any invasive procedure, carries a risk. Your statement is irresponsible and callous - a burn can potentially cause significant damage. Aftercare or not, a burn can infect. Secondly, when the recipient has an impaired immune system, or a heart condition, which some folks don't know about, all sorts of unpleasant things can happen, up to and including pneumonia, heart attack and stroke. There are a few medical faculties that post statistics, if you're interested in not propagating myths. It is certainly up to anyone to determine how far they want to go, but if you do feel you need to give advice, do your homework before you post. Last, but not least, you say "Decorative branding has a long history of use in human body modification". It does not. Branding is used in some primitive societies, particularly those where little medical knowledge exists, but in Western society, traditionally has only been used as a form of punishment, or in public identification of criminals. There is today an undercurrent of body mod aficionados, which is a relatively new phenomenon. Regardless of how many people here say that their grandmother had her arms removed, body modifications are, beyond piercings, unusual and one of the higher risk activities.

allthatjaz -> RE: branding (4/19/2009 3:36:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: antipode quote: Actually, it's not dangerous, as long as you have a skilled artist doing the work, and you follow proper aftercare procedures. Decorative branding has a long history of use in human body modification. Branding, like any invasive procedure, carries a risk. Your statement is irresponsible and callous - a burn can potentially cause significant damage. Aftercare or not, a burn can infect. Secondly, when the recipient has an impaired immune system, or a heart condition, which some folks don't know about, all sorts of unpleasant things can happen, up to and including pneumonia, heart attack and stroke. There are a few medical faculties that post statistics, if you're interested in not propagating myths. It is certainly up to anyone to determine how far they want to go, but if you do feel you need to give advice, do your homework before you post. Last, but not least, you say "Decorative branding has a long history of use in human body modification". It does not. Branding is used in some primitive societies, particularly those where little medical knowledge exists, but in Western society, traditionally has only been used as a form of punishment, or in public identification of criminals. There is today an undercurrent of body mod aficionados, which is a relatively new phenomenon. Regardless of how many people here say that their grandmother had her arms removed, body modifications are, beyond piercings, unusual and one of the higher risk activities. Actually he said its not dangerous as long as you have a skilled person doing it. a skilled person knows the dangers and will take that into consideration. You are entitled to your opinion but it sounds to me like its not first hand. Yes of course there are dangers but then theres dangers and risks in a lot of things that we do but possibly not half as much danger as driving your car, using public transport or any other mundane part of your life. Do you feel you have to tell someone who skis how dangerous it is? or is it just within this lifestyle you like to point out how stupid we are because we are not doing it your way?

porcelaine -> RE: branding (4/19/2009 5:53:43 PM)
you've been given a lot of good advice here. my response is simple, search your heart. no one knows what pleases him more than you do. think of all the nice things you'd love to treat him to that go unaccomplished. think outside the box. you can weave this into a meal, sexual adventure, heck even a romantic bath. it doesn't have to be approached within a d/s context, in fact, it might be nice to do something different that you'll both treasure and always associate with the solidifying of your branding journey. good luck! porcelaine

MsDDom -> RE: branding (4/19/2009 7:41:42 PM)
quote: i'm ready but i want to do something special to let him know. any ideas? does he have his own brand design? does he have his own branding (mini) iron? if he has his own design, maybe that would please him and if u added ur own touch to it. i have been asked by subs if i would put my mark on them if i owned them, and the answer is yes. i have my personal design for the tattoo...but, it would definitely be placed on a sub in a ltr w/ me.

masterlink65 -> RE: branding (4/19/2009 9:18:14 PM)
it said master, so it is owned property i am guessing. branding has a great risk of infection. piercing or tattooing is a lot safer. but if master wants to brand his property, that is up to its master.

sum1fun -> RE: branding (4/20/2009 12:29:29 AM)
Ok, not going to give my opinion since the question was to give ideas. How about starting with a marker or a temporary tatoo. I've put girls names on my #$%^ before and it was fun for all. Not permanant that way and acomplishes the same thing. Actually you can do something different each time your together so it stays interesint. If you were to get a permanant brand, I would suggest something like "slut" or "slave" or "I have aids" (to act as a chastity device) or something like that to prevent you from having sex with someone else but at the same time you are not putting a dom's name on there, just in case you change direction.

allthatjaz -> RE: branding (4/20/2009 2:21:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sum1fun Ok, not going to give my opinion since the question was to give ideas. How about starting with a marker or a temporary tatoo. I've put girls names on my #$%^ before and it was fun for all. Not permanant that way and acomplishes the same thing. Actually you can do something different each time your together so it stays interesint. If you were to get a permanant brand, I would suggest something like "slut" or "slave" or "I have aids" (to act as a chastity device) or something like that to prevent you from having sex with someone else but at the same time you are not putting a dom's name on there, just in case you change direction. quote: have aids Your initial idea is good but to put 'I have aids' or your skin? you are kidding aren't you? I don't have my partners name branded on me either but what I do have is an abstract code that to anyone else just looks like a swirl and a pattern. Other people I have branded have not had brands to say they are my property because they are not. They were friends that came up with something artistic and asked me to make and do the brand.

SailingBum -> RE: branding (4/20/2009 3:02:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam quote: ORIGINAL: pettitoes My idea is that being branded is a bad idea. It is dangerous, and you are a submissive; not livestock. I disagree as well. Branding is a valid body mod technique. I have brands on my forearms done by a cauterizing pen. My girl has strike brands on her forearms. I know many who have brands. Master Fire To you maybe but not in my little world. I can picture it now fresh out of college, first big job interview. prospective boss hey what the hell is that on your body. "Oh Im in love and got branded" Next Just cuz you think its valid. Mainstream society does not. Im not saying dont do it. Im saying be smart about it and be able to cover it with clothes while working. BadOne

allthatjaz -> RE: branding (4/20/2009 4:57:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: redheadredhead May I ask under what circumstances your grandmother was branded? quote: ORIGINAL: allthatjaz quote: ORIGINAL: ExKat Since you're of an age that you couldn't possibly have been with your dom for more than a couple of years, I urge you to reconsider. As the others have said, brands are forever. If you're not ready to marry this dude, then you aren't ready to have his stamp on you forever. However, I'm generally too cautious for most types of body mods. If you've already got a tramp stamp and a Winnie the Pooh tat on your ankle, then why not? You'll already look silly when you're 70, might as well add another mark. Thats just your opinion though. My gran is in her 80s and has tats that she's still proud of. Maybe other people think she looks 'silly' but so long as she is happy eh? She is not branded but tattooed and she had her first tattoo on her silver wedding anniversary and her second on her Golden

SirJ40 -> RE: branding (4/20/2009 7:32:02 AM)
As many have said, branding is a personal choice. I personally would agree with those who advise that you don't wear a brand until you're ready to become life-partnered with a person. (Marriage being the common form, but I don't limit that commitment to that method only). I have a few microbrands on My girl, and more are planned. We are marrying in August, and our lifelong commitment is decided already. She wears My name as a tattoo on her arm, as well, which I consider far more "personalized" and intimate than the brands, which are wolf paw prints. She loves wolves, they are her family sigil, and they will never be "out of date" for her, even if I should someday be gone in some way. They are in places that are usually covered by clothing.. however, at Fetish events and such things, when she is "less dressed", some will show. She's very proud of them, and we've had very good luck caring for them. The concepts of good general burn care are a good starting point. As far as "ideas".. something that means very much to both of you.. I would not recommend "slut" or any of that kind of thing, Myself, but it's entirely your choice, of course.

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