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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 3:20:31 PM   
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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 3:23:20 PM   
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Ever been friends with someone online for year's only to meet face to face and be let down? Or exhuberant?
Would one classify that as love at first sight?


Not to be difficult <really > but it seems to me this question would be better posed under the title "Is There Really Such a Thing as Not Loving at First Sight?"

My answer to that one, based again on my own experiences would also be yes!

In my attempt to share my experience, when this has happened to me, it was been more of a "knowing" than a feeling or thought. <Which i suppose makes the entire concept even more subjective> Time, in each case proves or disproves the truth of that knowing. So, initially, <at first sight> i could only suppose it was love. <seems that is part of the very nature of erotic love> but in hindsight, which is quite clear, i can ascertain if in fact it was. In either case, all is lessons!

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 3:25:20 PM   
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Love at first sight is impossible, and all the people who convince themselves that it's possible or that they've experienced it are only hurting themselves. For whatever reason, our culture strongly promotes the love-at-first-sight idea, and I don't think you can count the number of lives it has wrecked.

Why is love at first sight impossible? Because you have to know someone in order to love him or her. You cannot know someone at first sight. All you can really know--and even this isn't certain--is whether you want to fuck him or her.
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i know "I" am cynical....but...geeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
i am sorry YOU feel this way.
but i KNOW...I HAVE had love at first sight...
not some damned puppy love.
it took me 6 months to get past her..
and there have been moments in my life..when i have looked at a sunset..i ask myself..what if?

ah well you dont give a damn ..why do i friggen bother to be nice.


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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 3:28:02 PM   
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How about "LUST at first sight"? You can do that without even knowing their last name; or first name for that matter!


LOL - so true. i have had this long running fantasy where i meet a Woman, enter into a long term relationship with Her, but never know her name. Don't know where that comes from - but something about that concept pleases me. <Let psychoanalysis begin>

Sometimes when i am talking with someone online, using usernames i feel a little slighted upon the offering of Her real name. Another fantasy ruined.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 3:47:53 PM   
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I believe it is possible to love someone in an instant; however that in no way means you two (or three, lol) have what it takes to build or sustain a relationship.
Sometimes these things happen simply to remind us of possibilities and keep us hopeful (or on a negative note, it's one of the many ways life sucks sometimes). M

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 3:55:17 PM   
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I believe it is possible to love someone in an instant; however that in no way means you two (or three, lol) have what it takes to build or sustain a relationship


Thank You Ms. M, There is truth in those words. This one would like to add the word "workable" right before "relationship."

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 4:16:24 PM   
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And love is a thing that can never go wrong;
And I am Marie of Romania.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 5:49:20 PM   
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I want to know this question. Is there anyone that would care to answer or try to answer this question?


I believe in it. I fell in love with my late husband the minute I laid eyes on him

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 6:25:04 PM   
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Today's society has absolutely no clue what love is to begin with. Therein lies the problem. How can anyone answer your question when they can not even define love itself? Today's society confuses lust with love. People do not fall out of love. That is a giant crock. If you are truly in love with someone that love never dies. No, people get married for the wrong reasons. They get married because they confuse lust with love. They equate passion with love. They get married under pressure. Nobody knows what love really is. When the flame simmers down, they divorce.

That flame at the beginning of a relationship is lust. Not love. You want that person. You want to get down their pants. Your insides are just burning up with desire.

To put the final nail in the "love at first sight" coffin, I will offer the true definition of love:

"Greater love has no man than this, than a man lays down his life for his friends". In other words, you are willing to set asunder your entire world to meet the needs of your partner. Can you honestly say you can do that by staring at their behinds as they walk away? No, I did not think so.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 6:28:00 PM   
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To put the final nail in the "love at first sight" coffin, I will offer the true definition of love:


To treat in a loving manner, with an outgoing care and concern for the well being of another.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 6:46:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: seaturtle50

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To put the final nail in the "love at first sight" coffin, I will offer the true definition of love:


To treat in a loving manner, with an outgoing care and concern for the well being of another.

st50


Well yes, but your definition missed the key aspect. Love is all about putting the other person first. You have to ask yourself "Would I die for this person". If the answer is no, then you have to question the validity of your "love".

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 6:55:30 PM   
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Of course it's not a bad thing. But it's not love.

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All you can really know--and even this isn't certain--is whether you want to fuck him or her.


L&M,
Are you saying that like it's a bad thing?

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 7:00:54 PM   
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Well yes, but your definition missed the key aspect. Love is all about putting the other person first. You have to ask yourself "Would I die for this person". If the answer is no, then you have to question the validity of your "love".


There is no part of my definition that did not put the other person first.

As to the "key aspect" - Well, only if one thinks that is in fact the "key" aspect. Myself, i think that is but one aspect, and one that is rarely if ever tested in the day to day loving of someone. In fact, what i may say about that aspect, could never be know as a certainty until such a moment of truth presented itself.

That said, my answer would be yes, 18 years ago, and yes still today.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 7:05:44 PM   
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Well yes, but your definition missed the key aspect. Love is all about putting the other person first. You have to ask yourself "Would I die for this person". If the answer is no, then you have to question the validity of your "love".


I agree with SirKenin here...

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 7:08:49 PM   
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Well yes, but your definition missed the key aspect. Love is all about putting the other person first. You have to ask yourself "Would I die for this person". If the answer is no, then you have to question the validity of your "love".


There is no part of my definition that did not put the other person first.

As to the "key aspect" - Well, only if one thinks that is in fact the "key" aspect. Myself, i think that is but one aspect, and one that is rarely if ever tested in the day to day loving of someone. In fact, what i may say about that aspect, could never be know as a certainty until such a moment of truth presented itself.

That said, my answer would be yes, 18 years ago, and yes still today.

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You do not test it because I dare say you do not understand the gravity and scope of it. Laying your life down is more than dying for the person. It is putting their needs first and foremost in every day life. That is a challenge, because it is human nature to consider one's own selfish needs first. Just go out for a drive at rush hour to put My statement to the test.

It is about no matter what, giving up what you want so you can give your partner what they need. In sickness and in health. For richer or for poorer. No matter what, they come first. If they want Harveys and you want McDonald's, Harveys it is as an overly simplified example. If you do not subscribe to that line of thinking, which the greatest majority of people do not, then I challenge the validity of your "love".

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 7:08:53 PM   
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I believe in it. I fell in love with my late husband the minute I laid eyes on him


Irish, thanks for sharing that. The depth and passion of your love for him is evident in even those few words. i am sorry for your loss.

i have discussed this with literally hundreds of people, and i must tell you, the number who knew what you are talking about were a very rare few.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 7:12:56 PM   
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You do not test it because I dare say you do not understand the gravity and scope of it. You do not test it because I dare say you do not understand the gravity and scope of it. Laying your life down is more than dying for the person. It is putting their needs first and foremost in every day life. That is a challenge, because it is human nature to consider one's own selfish needs first. Just go out for a drive at rush hour to put My statement to the test.

It is about no matter what, giving up what you want so you can give your partner what they need. In sickness and in health. For richer or for poorer. No matter what, they come first. If they want Harveys and you want McDonald's, Harveys it is as an overly simplified example. If you do not subscribe to that line of thinking, which the greatest majority of people do not, then I challenge the validity of your "love".


Would you not get further with me in my conversion by asking me what i think rather than telling me then?

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 7:15:27 PM   
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I want to know this question. Is there anyone that would care to answer or try to answer this question?


Oh Gawd I hope so.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 7:16:43 PM   
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Sorry ... wrong place ... wrong time ....

< Message edited by seaturtle50 -- 2/1/2006 7:35:24 PM >


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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 9:06:40 PM   
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You do not test it because I dare say you do not understand the gravity and scope of it. You do not test it because I dare say you do not understand the gravity and scope of it. Laying your life down is more than dying for the person. It is putting their needs first and foremost in every day life. That is a challenge, because it is human nature to consider one's own selfish needs first. Just go out for a drive at rush hour to put My statement to the test.

It is about no matter what, giving up what you want so you can give your partner what they need. In sickness and in health. For richer or for poorer. No matter what, they come first. If they want Harveys and you want McDonald's, Harveys it is as an overly simplified example. If you do not subscribe to that line of thinking, which the greatest majority of people do not, then I challenge the validity of your "love".


Would you not get further with me in my conversion by asking me what i think rather than telling me then?

st50


Heh.. Interesting comment, but I have no wish to convert you. With any luck at all (and My true desire), I am preaching to the choir so to speak.

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