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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 9:11:39 PM   
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Heh.. Interesting comment, but I have no wish to convert you. With any luck at all (and My true desire), I am preaching to the choir so to speak.


Thank You SirKenin,

To luck then! <toasts>

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 9:29:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

These violent delights have violent ends
And in their triumph die, like fire and powder,
Which as they kiss consume.


The man knew whereof he spoke. But no matter if it's fated not to last, for me, those violent delights produce sweet memories.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 9:41:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressJenny270

I want to know this question. Is there anyone that would care to answer or try to answer this question?


I think the answer to this would largely depend upon one's definition of love.

If you use SirKenin's definition of love, then the answer to your question must be "no," since no sane person would be willing to die for someone who they haven't even met.

However, I suspect that there are many variations of how love is defined. And some of these definitions would encompass the possibility of love at first sight.

As for myself, yes, I believe in love at first sight.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/1/2006 9:43:06 PM   
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The man knew whereof he spoke. But no matter if it's fated not to last, for me, those violent delights produce sweet memories.
I'm absolutely with you there! It's the only reason to think about/consider love. I am absolutely incapable of doing lukewarm if it never becomes the scary hot interlude that feels like it's all consuming (of course it never is all consuming or most of us wouldn't be here, lol). M

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/2/2006 5:15:30 AM   
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Yes ...
making it last thats the kicker but hey thats what communcation is for.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/2/2006 7:10:33 AM   
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Either you are a pragmatic cynic and discount the possibility of "love at first sight"; or a hopeless romantic. Love at first sight is something you don't, and can't, rationally believe in until or if it happens to you. Even the "first sight" aspect isn't definitive. You can see someone every day for years and then one day you "see them" for the first time "that way".

Love takes on more definitions than any other word. There's a "love" of things, places, activities, pets. Anyone with "unmentionables" can answer the question absolutely. At the first moment you see your child you are experiencing love at first sight.

Between two people, especially two people who are meeting for the first time from a site such as CM, cynicism should come with you. Spend all the time you can on-line and by phone getting to know about the person and building trust and confidence; but you can never let your guard down completely. The best you can expect is that in person you can see a resemblance to the person you met on-line. Love is way down the list of possibilities, well after fear of meeting a reincarnation of Jeffrey Dahmer. As it should be, because the odds of meeting Jeffrey are better than the odds of finding love.

I brought all these "facts" and considerations with me along with all the cynicism an upbringing and working in New York could generate. I KNEW love at first site wasn't possible. Until is was. March 1, 2003, about 12:45; Buellton, CA.


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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/2/2006 8:10:23 AM   
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The best you can expect is that in person you can see a resemblance to the person you met on-line. Love is way down the list of possibilities, well after fear of meeting a reincarnation of Jeffrey Dahmer. As it should be, because the odds of meeting Jeffrey are better than the odds of finding love.

I brought all these "facts" and considerations with me along with all the cynicism an upbringing and working in New York could generate. I KNEW love at first site wasn't possible. Until is was. March 1, 2003, about 12:45; Buellton, CA.
That was funny, and way too cynical. You're going to make people even more paranoid and afraid to walk away from the computer to meet fellow humans face to face with the dahmer comment.

It's good to see you do believe in love at first sight and live to show it can last. M

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/2/2006 9:48:10 AM   
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way too cynical. You're going to make people even more paranoid and afraid to walk away from the computer to meet fellow humans face to face with the dahmer comment.


Good!

Much rather have people expecting and hopefully planning an exit strategy if Jeffrey shows up, than expecting some fantasy driven "one". Paranoia for self preservation isn't a negative trait even for "macho" Dominants. The other side of the story should provide enough encouragement to get out from behind a computer.

Call me a converted "believer". After all "when the facts change it's good to change your opinion". I wish I could credit the author of that quote. On the day I met beth my disbelief in the 'LAFS' concept didn't mesh with the experience.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/2/2006 12:24:45 PM   
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Much rather have people expecting and hopefully planning an exit strategy if Jeffrey shows up


Well when Jeffy showed up in real life, he appeared to be good looking, charming, and a generally nice guy. That was a big part of how he could attract his victims.

i wonder, at which point in the process of getting to know him that the "it’s time to use exit strategy" first came to the mind of the victim? <not to be morbid> In all known cases, it came too late, except for the one boy who drugged (or otherwise unable to verbalize) <generalities used in preference to morbid fact> managed to get away, and was found outdoors in his underwear by some cops in the street. Jeffrey was so convincing in his facade he walked right up to the victim and the cops, explaining that his “boyfriend” was drunk.

Since the victim could not coherently explain his dilemma, and since Jeffy was so charming, the cops released his "lover" back into his care. They believed him (trained professionals - took him at his word, he was that believable). So in that case, it also proved too late. Often, one cannot tell ones true nature, until it is too late. we are all playing the odds in this regard.


Note: it is just as likely to meet a Jeffy in RL as on the net.

m


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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/2/2006 12:27:34 PM   
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Call me a converted "believer". After all "when the facts change it's good to change your opinion". I wish I could credit the author of that quote. On the day I met beth my disbelief in the 'LAFS' concept didn't mesh with the experience.


Excellent point. i knew of a man who used to say - People don't know what they don't know ... cause they don't know it.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/2/2006 3:07:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressJenny270

I want to know this question. Is there anyone that would care to answer or try to answer this question?


I don't believe in love at first sight.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/2/2006 8:04:29 PM   
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That I have never mastered
And I fear I never will.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/8/2006 8:39:49 PM   
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I read all the responses from my initial question. I respect everyone's opinions. They all make sense in one way or the other. But, after being with this person and talking to this person every day for 12-15 hours a day and NOT SLEEPING WITH HIM, I honestly believe that I am truely IN LOVE with him. He makes me smile when I am sad, he makes me laugh when I want to cry. We have just about everything in common, as a matter of fact, I don't think we have ran across anything that we don't have in common yet. But, I know that eventually we will. Does that scare me and make me want to run away and give up because I can't find the "perfect man"? NO! Everyone's opinion of the "perfect man" is different. There is no universally "perfect man". It is only what we make up in our minds and hearts. To me, the "perfect man" is who I am with now. I guess you could say that I would consider him my soul mate. And again, everyone has their own ipinion on the words "soul mate". I am looking forward to reading the replies to my respnse.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/8/2006 8:46:11 PM   
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Communication is the kicker. And I am proud that we have very good communication skills.

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RE: Is There Really Such a Thing Called "Love at F... - 2/8/2006 8:50:16 PM   
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I also want to say that I am a risk taker. I "play" with fire. If you really want to know how I feel, here goes. I feel like I am standing on the edge of a mountain looking down and seeing this man at the bottom. I want to go to him, but I am scared that if I jump, I will get hurt. My mom told me that if I don't jump, I will never know if I would have gotten hurt or not. Mommas know best right. So, I made that jump. So far so good. I haven't gotten hurt. I am not even really thinking about getting hurt at this point in time. All I am thinking about, is reaching the bottom where he so patiently waits for me.

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