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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/6/2009 11:26:49 PM

NorthernGent

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but heck that happens to me all the time in UK, so thats not new to me to be seen as the bad one...)

In the interests of balance, the last time I was in Berlin I spent the best part of an hour listening to the hotel owner ranting about how the English monarchy, every other monarchy, the English people and every other people, but the English people in particular, are in fact German; and he was adamant that Germany owns the world. I've condensed the hour into a sentence, naturally, but I only asked the mad fucker for directions to the nearest tube station.

Can you blame us for getting a bit uptight when you start getting uppity on our island?

I agree,i would go mad at him as well,as british citizens are definitely not german...that i learned for sure over here :o)

Not mad, more perplexed and slightly amused. To be fair, he turned out to be a decent bloke and was game for a laugh - he took our christening of him as the King of Austria in good spirits.

I've always had good times in Germany - one of my favourite countries for a number of reasons.

You're right, though, we have marked differences, so can you pass on my thoughts to Ms Merkel on her EU project: "can't you just be happy with the control of 80 million people in central Europe? We're really not that interested, thanks all the same".

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 3:44:27 AM

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well,I would love to talk to her *lol*
And that UK enjoys to stay their way how it is is quite obvious and ok,...i can be glad that i am not into politics,because i would aim to change a lot in both countries and would be hated more then thatcher,thats for sure...

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 5:01:48 AM

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I am an American.
I will admit to having the type of attitude JB described in his opening post at one time.
Then a few years ago, I "discovered" CM and got to know people not just from the UK, but from all over the world.
My attitude changed, as most of the non-Americans I've communicated with seem to be more open-minded and more intelligent than many Americans I've associated with, friends from here excluded. Don't get me wrong, there are still ALOT of narrow-minded people in this country, but for me, I've learned to no longer believe that America is the best country there is. For too many of us, it is instilled in our education and upbringing to believe that other countries are "less than" our own. That is just wrong. We are all citizens of this planet, and we have our cultural differences, but that does not make any particular country better than another.

If I've offended anyone with my "typical American" behaviour, I apologize.

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 5:05:22 AM

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I spent a lot of time in my youth shepharding foreigners around New York. I will say that I found it very tiresome to have them be here for three days and then pontificate about everything that's wrong with the U.S.. Now I'm not saying the op did this, but my understanding is that he spent only a couple of weeks in Tampa. If he took that as somehow knowing everything about America and then felt entitled to spew his opinions, I'm not surprised people felt it right to put him down.

A short honeymoon is not the same as knowing the entire nation. Hell, I don't feel capable of speaking for or about the entire nation because we are such a huge and complex place and I only know my little corner of it.

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 5:59:31 AM

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Can you blame us for getting a bit uptight when you start getting uppity on our island?

I can tell you one thing: the colonies ain't what they used to be .

Do they still point at you, then the large pan of boiling water, and then rub their stomachs when you step off the boat at New York?

Naw, I think they use microwaves now.

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 6:04:54 AM

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Could be worse...could be Tokyo. With fish stocks falling, they need something else to put in sushi....But they'd be more polite than New Yorkers who have always been a rough crowd.

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 7:23:50 AM

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Using fast reply.......

Now that I have a clue what the thread is actually about! I can say this. I've traveled outside the borders of the US with a large group of US citizens I didn't know. I was godawful embarassed to be lumped in with that lot! Rude, demanding, arrogant and yes LOUD!! They did not make me proud to be an American. I understood why a friend that used to travel a lot, would tell people he was from Canada.

Now, if I ever am fortunate enough to be able to travel out of country again, I will not lie about where I am from but I will make a concentrated effort to be a positive representative rather than the negative.

I am very happy to have been born and raised where I was. I am usually glad I live where I do. In some ways it may have made me a better woman. But it does NOT make me better than anyone that had a different experience.

Different does not mean better or worse. Something too many people struggle to understand.

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 8:27:12 AM

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Using fast reply.......

Now that I have a clue what the thread is actually about! I can say this. I've traveled outside the borders of the US with a large group of US citizens I didn't know. I was godawful embarassed to be lumped in with that lot! Rude, demanding, arrogant and yes LOUD!! They did not make me proud to be an American. I understood why a friend that used to travel a lot, would tell people he was from Canada.

*snort* then you haven't been around a bunch of French Canadians from Quebec! man...they can and are quite rude! The irony is during my travel to Florida and back home in February, I really didn't see the "rudeness" which has been labeled to Americans, generally. Granted I did see small instances of rudeness from individuals which I also experienced that whether I was in NYC, Toronto, Edmonton or Vancouver. I also realize that all countries have people like that and some places have more occurrences than others it seems.

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 8:44:43 AM

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Germans in Tunisia: an atrocity. Brits in Spain: monstrous. A gang of neurotic French people in Cambodia: the horror! Americans in London: indescribable.

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 8:50:02 AM

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People from ALL over the world in America: The melting pot, we just call it home

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 8:59:18 AM

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Using fast reply.......

Now that I have a clue what the thread is actually about! I can say this. I've traveled outside the borders of the US with a large group of US citizens I didn't know. I was godawful embarassed to be lumped in with that lot! Rude, demanding, arrogant and yes LOUD!! They did not make me proud to be an American. I understood why a friend that used to travel a lot, would tell people he was from Canada.

*snort* then you haven't been around a bunch of French Canadians from Quebec! man...they can and are quite rude! The irony is during my travel to Florida and back home in February, I really didn't see the "rudeness" which has been labeled to Americans, generally. Granted I did see small instances of rudeness from individuals which I also experienced that whether I was in NYC, Toronto, Edmonton or Vancouver. I also realize that all countries have people like that and some places have more occurrences than others it seems.

Texas.........more annoying loud rude people per capita than any other place I've ever been.

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 9:21:50 AM

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I would suggest the rest of the world knows more about America, than America knows about the rest of the world. For many Americans there has never been a need to learn more. An eye opener for some was the election of Barack Obama and the reaction around the globe. As if America had abandoned arseholiness and joined the rest of us.
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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 10:33:12 AM

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Now, this is what I don't understand Axeman. Perhaps it's just me but, I don't think of my country in terms of the personality of who has been elected its President. On the streets, most peoples' personalities, that I know, are unaffected by whoever is sitting in the Oval Office of the White House. I choose not to equate the personality of a country's people, as a whole, to whomever is the primary leader for that country.

The whole notion that because Obama is now our president, America has climbed out of a state of "arsholiness" is, in my view, absurd. I don't view the French, British, or German citizens any differently because those countries have had a change of leadership at the top. It's very difficult for me, as someone who walks around the grand melting pot of Walt Disney World quite frequently, to pick out any family or group and decide, "They must be French" or "They must be from Brazil," simply because of the way I see them acting. People are people and should be judged on that basis... not because of whoever happens to lead their countries.

Again, just my view, for what it's worth.

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 11:21:42 AM

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What a load of bull. You met no one.

Says you? perhaps you may be somewhat off the mark?

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 11:25:07 AM

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OP, I am clueless as to what you are trying to say but the sunglasses, they got me laughing.

You would have to know my thoughts of photos of guys in sunglasses.

It clearly proved to be a crap disguise then

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 11:30:06 AM

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Oh well, that's a given - the number of times I've been told I had no place to talk about anything on these boards because I wasn't an American citizen... are innumerable .

Definately a given

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 11:41:17 AM

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No need to apologise... it wasn't you... was it?

Bingo, FourQ.

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Brian: You're all different!
The Crowd (in unison): Yes, we are all different!
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Quotes Monty Python ... this is my kind of thread now

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 4:55:19 PM

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Taxi is better.

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 5:12:51 PM

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Wow! I'm with Breathesasone. Do we really come across that way? Even with the regulars who post here?

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RE: Positive Experience ... Negative Backlash - 5/7/2009 5:16:31 PM

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Taxi was good in its own way, however, Monty Python will be forever.

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