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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/10/2009 2:22:59 PM

allthatjaz

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ORIGINAL: malloves69

does strapon training go with the wardrobe change ? hey if your going to dressup your sub as female ..might as well take it a step further in training his asshole how to take a big cock then too right ladys ? smile shaving or waxing his cock and ass if its hairy is a must too my mistress had me try on a pair of panties a while ago but thats as far as she took it ..they felt good on ecspecially after she shaved my cock and ball area ..but nothing else became of it ..mal i just think i would look like a fool being transformed because thats how i see other men who try and play dressup ...like i said whatever floats your boat ...just dont think its for me ..mal

Your talking Xdressing and not T-girl.... try and look up the difference. A T-girl when dressed up is never a 'He'. She is a woman, she becomes feminine and she feels comfortable with that. Perhaps she likes humiliation but she likes humiliation as a woman and not a man that has been forced to dress as one.
This is not about dressing up and being a chick with a dick but about showing another part of who they are. This post is very ignorant.

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/10/2009 3:12:17 PM

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This is a very interesting subject for me. I find that I have some fantasies in this direction, but no strong desire to realize them. My fear is that I am certain that I will not look "pretty" and so I have not pursued it further. The part that intrigues me is the concern over how I will look, which seems related to how I feel about myself now.

It makes me wonder whether the solution to my problem lies in challenging my fears and doing it anyway, or accepting myself as I am, eliminating the desire to change me. As an aside, growing up in a household of 4 sisters, 1 mother and an emotionally distant father may have reinforced my views of what "pretty" is and why it's so important to me. Thanks for the original post and the informative and entertaining replies.

yours

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/10/2009 3:40:51 PM

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Feminisation and cross dressing aren't particularly kinks of mine, but two of my exboyfriends crossdressed a couple of times, and I've helped a few of my gay friends. For me, it's not humiliation play at all, and generally isn't very sexual (though the two that I dated could turn me on while they were dressed up). It's more like loaning clothes to a female friend, doing her hair, etc. - fun "girly" time. I certainly don't need or require it, but the ones who want forced femme would make me feel ridiculous. I wouldn't call a woman my "panty girl" or make fun of her for wearing clothes! I do think that in general, guys tend to go too ultra femme, badly, in a way that is really unrealistic. At least for guys who are new to it, I think going for more of an androgynous goth look, or a kind of butch lesbian look, or some such. Looking "passable" in a low-cut, short dress and high heels is a lot tougher to actually *LOOK* feminine in, than wearing a pink t-shirt or pretty blouse, jeans, and say cute boots or something with jeans. Add a little low-key makeup and style hair in a more feminine way, and it can work quite nicely.

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/10/2009 7:53:15 PM

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Not a fucking thing.

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/10/2009 7:55:06 PM

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Nothing. I find it one of the most boring requests I come across.

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/11/2009 9:14:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: GYPZYQUEEN

FOR me I love the thought that a man wishes to reach out to his feminine side..an inner woman..another part..

I do not use it as humiliation so then if that is how a sub sees it
it does not usually work for us..

Plato wrote of the OMIPODS...where we had been both genders and were cut in half and now forever seek our other half..I love this idea..it speaks of the yearning..

WHAT I GET is a sense of nurturing( mothering) a man along in his feminine,explorations,fullfilling that while I get to be with a man-woman omnipod..which is HOT to me

THe men who I have feminized and went along on the journey with began to bloom and become whole..build their esteem and more...most exciting

AS for finding out what "CAUSED" it?
It is not an afflication/disease..it is a part of YOU that you wish to explore...
In seeking a cause you may see it as a problem..?
I would hope for you a detour from that to a place of
"this is part of me"

I find it absolutely fasinating that men and women wish to explore this...and in my studies and interaction with different cultures all over the world.I have seen many RITUALS where men dress as women and vice versa..as rituals for healing ,growth and change.

I would love to develop a weekend workshop around it for men....

GQ

Bravo to this post.

My Lady looks on it also as a sort of "third gender" and she sees beauty in me as boy and girl. I have been pretty vocal on these boards in my view that the desire to dress be balanced with the desire to serve, and that it should not overwhelm the dynamic.

It is not humiliation for me, nor do I wish to be "forced"...but having a Lady that is interested in it, wants me to dress and encourages it? Yes please!

So if I may speak for Her, I think my Lady gets a very happy and balanced submissive out of the deal. She is attracted to a softer feel with male energy. The female parts of me are not anathema to her, in fact she sort of revels in them! Who else can set up your campsite, build a fire, cook your dinner over it, then do your nails by firelight? I have a dedicated interest and enthusiasm in female beauty and maintenance techniques, I love to shop, and I am emotionally available and connected....oh...and I clean dog poop off the landing at 5:30 in the morning and look fabulous doing it.

This isn't to say that you cannot get these things in a male who does not have female leanings, nor that a male sub that pampers your feminine side and is right there emotionally is what everyone desires.

If I may use Gypzyqueen's term - we "Omnipod subs" are simply another option for the discerning Lady.

It works for my Lady and I quite well, does not overwhelm our dynamic, and leaves us both happier and more fulfilled in our lives.

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/11/2009 9:19:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: MidnightKat5000

Not a fucking thing.]

the OP was asking what do you get from the pracitice..

MEANING post IF...you do..it
Posts such as these may be veiled stabs...

time may be better served and knowledge shared by hearing from you on posts where you have experiences in a practice or one you enjoy a lot so wish to share constructive feedback.

GQ

< Message edited by GYPZYQUEEN -- 5/11/2009 9:24:45 AM >

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/11/2009 9:32:19 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadySweetOrSour

[/Nothing. I find it one of the most boring requests I come across.

]

STAB..

OP wants info about what you get out of it ....if
OP is trying to see it from the Domme's side IF
they practice this..

GQ

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/11/2009 9:36:42 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GYPZYQUEEN

quote:

ORIGINAL: MidnightKat5000

Not a fucking thing.]

the OP was asking what do you get from the pracitice..

MEANING post IF...you do..it
Posts such as these may be veiled stabs...

time may be better served and knowledge shared by hearing from you on posts where you have experiences in a practice or one you enjoy a lot so wish to share constructive feedback.

GQ

I don't believe this to be true at all. No topic is limited to just those who enjoy the practice. An opinion on any subject does not necessarily have to be only those agreeing with or positive toward the activity. Those of us who don't engage in this particular kink have just as much right to express ourselves as those who do. In fact, it's been rather helpful to see how many of the regular posters fall on the issue.

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/11/2009 10:02:25 AM

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I See your point..

of course you have a right to an opinion..
however this is where a lot of topics get derailed on here
rather than becoming helpful for the querant or others
who wish to LEARN from the topic

As well when I first came on here and read about posting on
FORUMS it was made clear that one was not to make disparaging remarks as to another's process

I DO see how me seeing remarks of not giving a fuck and boredom may be making assumptions

as well
feminization is not an issue as put forth in the OP's post..
for posters to "fall" anywhere on
at least not on this forum

THE question politely put forth by OP was
"what do women get from it?"
NOT where do you fall on the issue

there are other discussions for this in other forums...

GQ

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/11/2009 10:32:57 AM

LadyPact

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I don't think the issue is that neither of us see the point of the other. In fact, I think we do.

Granted, some of the replies could have expressed their views in a less negative light. They are still worth hearing. I think it allows us to have a broader than myopic view of any discussion. No topic is so strict and rigid than other viewpoints can not be accepted.

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/11/2009 5:28:15 PM

SubstructureVan

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GYPZYQUEEN

I See your point..

of course you have a right to an opinion..
however this is where a lot of topics get derailed on here
rather than becoming helpful for the querant or others
who wish to LEARN from the topic

As well when I first came on here and read about posting on
FORUMS it was made clear that one was not to make disparaging remarks as to another's process

I DO see how me seeing remarks of not giving a fuck and boredom may be making assumptions

as well
feminization is not an issue as put forth in the OP's post..
for posters to "fall" anywhere on
at least not on this forum

THE question politely put forth by OP was
"what do women get from it?"
NOT where do you fall on the issue

there are other discussions for this in other forums...

GQ

With all due respect, Gypzy, I am interested to learn the opinions of those who "get nothing" from feminization. They are expressing an honest opinion, and I respect that. Obviously, this kink is not for everyone, and it is fascinating to learn other people's opinions, be they good, bad, or indifferent. Not surprisingly, it is one of, if the the, main "thing" for me in my kink life. Who knows why it happened, probably due a high attraction to the female sex, and somehow my brain focused on the vestments of females instead of/in addition to the female form. With the right partner the enjoyment of female-centric clothing and the expression of female traits is wonderful...and what better way to express your esteem for females by walking a few miles in their shoes? [excuse the pun] The act of being penetrated by a loving partner is, of course, yet another way to express that esteem. But for me, it only works if my partner truly enjoys it. Males, especially those who crossdress, can be extremely selfish. It took me a long time to figure out that, oddly enough, I only get enjoyment when my partner is turned on and happy. In times when a partner has tried to do things for me...didn't work. Total turn off. I go limp! But when we forget about my pleasure and focus on hers...surprise surprise, I'm totally turned on. Guess that makes me a sexual submissive!

I appreciate everyone's comments, and I hope we get some more!

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/13/2009 10:41:51 AM

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I love feminization, but only on rare occasions. I'm not interested in a cross dresser who craves the activity all the time, because I'm not fired up about it enough to meet their needs.

I enjoy it immensely when it's under My control, where I am the instigator, and where it is NOT a sub's fetish.

There is something uniquely satisfying in having a gripey man learn how time consuming and task oriented it is to 'get dolled up'. I get a thrill out of forcing a man to learn to shave his legs every day, shave his armpits, wear a thong all day under a pair of tight pantyhose. It's even more fun to make him creep about in high heels and watch him suffer from charley horse cramps in his feet and calves all night.

I watch with glee as he struggles to learn about foundation, applying makeup, blush, eyeshadow, mascara, liner, lipstick, because invariably the inexperienced male sub will end up looking like a five year old on her first try playing with mommy's makeup.

Manicure initiation is the bomb. It's rare to find a male sub who is good at it, although some seem to have a hidden talent for perfection and they learn to hone that skill to please Me.

The joy isn't complete unless he has to learn to frost or color his hair, use a curling iron, and wear a pantyliner in a pair of nylon panties all day.

Once he learns how insensitive he's been to whine about any female that he's ever had to wait for in his life, the crossdressing loses it's appeal to me. Mission accomplished.

For Me, it's a lesson in patience and comprehension, it's not a fetish.

I love to force fem a man once in a great while.

Finding a sub waiting for Me in women's lingerie, if I have not instructed him to do so, just squiks Me, instead of pleasing Me.

I'm sure a psychologist could have a field day with why I have to be the one controlling the feminization to be able to take pleasure in it, but it is what it is.

TexasMaam

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/13/2009 10:54:24 AM

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Gee. I must have been offline when they made Gypzy ruler of the boards.

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/13/2009 11:41:47 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SubstructureVan

quote:

With all due respect, Gypzy, I am interested to learn the opinions of those who "get nothing" from feminization. They are expressing an honest opinion, and I respect that. Obviously, this kink is not for everyone, and it is fascinating to learn other people's opinions, be they good, bad, or indifferent.

REPLY:

I Understand and apologize for speaking FOR you
GQ

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/13/2009 5:26:26 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GYPZYQUEEN

quote:

ORIGINAL: SubstructureVan

quote:

With all due respect, Gypzy, I am interested to learn the opinions of those who "get nothing" from feminization. They are expressing an honest opinion, and I respect that. Obviously, this kink is not for everyone, and it is fascinating to learn other people's opinions, be they good, bad, or indifferent.

REPLY:

I Understand and apologize for speaking FOR you
GQ

No need to apologize to me! If anything, I should get a beating for not being a clear enough.

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/14/2009 3:17:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I also can't say much to the theory of it being used for males to express their feminine side. If I had a female submissive, I wouldn't find the need to dress her in a certain way to express her masculine side.

Excellent point. With respect, crossdressing is purely and simply just another fetish. Meaning among other things that it can be interesting or not, depending on the parties involved.

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/14/2009 8:20:35 PM

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I don't feel that I get anything out of it in general. Of course, an individual sub may change that, but I don't think it's fair not to tell prospective candidates don't bring me that as a great big part of your needs, cause it trips no triggers for me.

I think part of it is that as I dress toward the androgynous end of things myself, I have some personal issues with the societal construction of the female gender, and really can't play with gender roles the way a crossdresser does until I get my own issues on the matter sorted. However, I have nothing whatsoever against a transwoman who is submissive, but neither am I seeking one out. If that makes sense.

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/15/2009 5:49:36 AM

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I agree 100% with what allthatjaz said. After meeting a fair number of Tv's crossdressers I'm finding them to be lovely liberated people. I say don't knock it till you try it it's working for me.

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RE: What does feminization mean to you? What do femdoms... - 5/16/2009 3:48:44 AM

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if i may add to your thread i am a male sub whos had a panty wearing fetish for over 35 yrs or more . I foind reading this very helpfiul and seeing other points of views thk you for not bashing those of us but for shareing your likes and dislikes on this.

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