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rulemylife -> RE: Terrorist cell arrested in New York (5/22/2009 2:48:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent I can't open the link today, but yesterday the words "apparently" and "believed to be" caught my eye. Now wait, earlier in the thread you were proclaiming there was a rush to judgment, but now you are turning your own argument on its head by saying the use of these qualifiers is not to maintain the presumption of innocence until proven guilty but as evidence of innocence.

NorthernGent -> RE: Terrorist cell arrested in New York (5/22/2009 2:54:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent I can't open the link today, but yesterday the words "apparently" and "believed to be" caught my eye. Now wait, earlier in the thread you were proclaiming there was a rush to judgment, but now you are turning your own argument on its head by saying the use of these qualifiers is not to maintain the presumption of innocence until proven guilty but as evidence of innocence. I suppose this is one of those moments where you add two and two together and get five. It really isn't that difficult: there is no evidence in that link, which I stated in the later post, and this should lead to caution, which I suggested an earlier post. I assumed your mind would be able to make the connection. Perhaps you need pictures or something?

rulemylife -> RE: Terrorist cell arrested in New York (5/22/2009 4:48:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Now wait, earlier in the thread you were proclaiming there was a rush to judgment, but now you are turning your own argument on its head by saying the use of these qualifiers is not to maintain the presumption of innocence until proven guilty but as evidence of innocence. I suppose this is one of those moments where you add two and two together and get five. It really isn't that difficult: there is no evidence in that link, which I stated in the later post, and this should lead to caution, which I suggested an earlier post. I assumed your mind would be able to make the connection. Perhaps you need pictures or something? Well, you know, I really can't keep up with someone of your advanced intelligence, so you'll have to help me out. It just seems odd for you to say that there is no evidence when the suspects placed fake explosives they purchased from an FBI informant into vehicles outside of buildings they had every intention to blow up. Then you complain of a rush to judgment even though the article was very careful in its use of terms to not imply guilt before trial. You then claimed that the very use of those terms implied there was no evidence. Did I get something wrong? Feel free to clarify, and feel free to use pictures as necessary.

NorthernGent -> RE: Terrorist cell arrested in New York (5/23/2009 4:30:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Did I get something wrong? You seem to have a habit of jumping to conclusions based on limited information. Nothing wrong with that, providing you're honest with yourself. In a nutshell, the New York Times is not the judge and jury; ditto the posters in this thread. quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife I really can't keep up with someone of your advanced intelligence Just keep your mind open to the possibilities and things should pan out fine.

kdsub -> RE: Terrorist cell arrested in New York (5/23/2009 8:46:59 AM)
Yes rule…now keep your mind open...I’ll bet before it is all said and done we will find this was a plot by Dick Cheney to justify torture as a means to secure our safety. The operation will have been funded by Rush Limbaugh and the religious right. Those poor boys were I’m sure captured…tortured...and brain washed by CIA operatives and forced to perform their unwitting part in this deception. I’m sure we will find that the mysterious secret big business behind the scenes manipulators of our government gave the OK for this operation. Butch

kdsub -> RE: Terrorist cell arrested in New York (5/23/2009 9:13:31 AM)
No wait wait… I’ve found new evidence from the British Institute of International and Comparative Law. They postulate that President Obama in collusion with ACRON perpetrated this hoax in the hopes of showing America he could protect them from terrorism without using the torture tactics of his predecessor. Butch

kdsub -> RE: Terrorist cell arrested in New York (5/23/2009 9:30:46 AM)
Holly smokes… this from the KKK! KKK sources have just released a statement with new evidence concerning the attempted bombing of two Jewish temples in New York. Operatives of Israels’s Mossad under the direction of Prime Minister Netanyahu disguised themselves as black Americans and executed a plan to win sympathy for Israel among American voters. With the knowledge and blessing of the Obama Administration this Jew plan will make it easier for Israel to accomplish its Zionist plan of world domination. Butch

kdsub -> RE: Terrorist cell arrested in New York (5/23/2009 9:53:21 AM)
I do believe the final word is in… Secret sources deep within the confines of Area 51 in Nevada have released new information about the attempted terrorist attacks on Jewish Temples in New York. Under the guise of a terrorist attack alien beings from the planet UK tried to plant egg sacks in the trunks of black SUV’s in the hope they would hatch and takeover the bodies of the true leaders of America. Thus leading the way for a planed invasion in August of this year. The plot was discovered and foiled by four heroes of the Muslim faith but their deeds were covered up by the Obama administration to stop panic among the population. Butch ps.. This is the last report...please forgive me for going overboard on the satire

popeye1250 -> RE: Terrorist cell arrested in New York (5/23/2009 10:47:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: whatsupsub I take no credibility in being able to say this, but i am her ex. Trust me, she's got the brain. She's also got the strength and passion to manipulate any argument to mean anything she wants it to. Frankly, just like all the rest of us do. I know it's hard - but stop and think about the possibilities from the left to the right - including hers. However far fetched they may seem from any "point of reality" (what we as "assimilated Americans usually don't see) - inevidebly some situation, no matter how far fetched, will eventually come true. The odds are against us. Unfortunately. Look at 9/11. If she had ranted that could happen days before...months before....we'd have probably have been very critical too. [our government knew it - they just didn't react quickly enough - perhaps because they weren't taking it seriously enough - it was treated more like a teaser for a hollywood movie] - but then there it happened. The odds are against us. And yes, she may hate me, but i still respect her. Ah! "The Stockholm Syndrome."

NorthernGent -> RE: Terrorist cell arrested in New York (5/23/2009 10:49:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub ps.. This is the last report...please forgive me for going overboard on the satire Butch, you shouldn't apologise. You really are a competent entertainer - some would say mecurial - do you do children's parties, too? Tell me the one about the duck who walked into the bar with a frog on his shoulder, again? In fact, don't bother as my sides will split and I'm not wearing my corset.

kdsub -> RE: Terrorist cell arrested in New York (5/23/2009 10:58:06 AM)
You are a good sport NorthernGent...and I sure do know what you mean when it comes to those damn corsets. Butch

NorthernGent -> RE: Terrorist cell arrested in New York (5/23/2009 12:20:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub ...and I sure do know what you mean when it comes to those damn corsets. Butch Go steady. Pay a few extra quid and get a made to measure affair - that's what I did. Just think what the world would be like were everyone to accept their love of corsets - definitely no terrorism.

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