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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 3:16:04 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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For the most part, sub men do not read female dominant profiles.  If they do observe the words, they don't interpret the meaning.  Like Syl, I have had an array of profiles, and now I have a really specific one.  Maybe next month I will do something else. 

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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 3:23:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Venalismihi
You start out simple so as not to confuse the male mind too much,

I wasn't going to say anything, but as long as some other people are responding... the sentence I quoted is enough to redflag me into next week.


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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 3:43:48 PM   
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LOL Red!  It's important to use small words... my pal DesertRat says I should just scrawl some intel on my chest with a sharpie... 

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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 3:44:28 PM   
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Something i have noticed looking at EMPTY male profiles is that they create what they want as they exchange emails.  If i ask if they like something they say yes, then i tell them i don't like it  -they change their minds.
 
i usually don't spend much time on them...delete, block if they whine.

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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 4:25:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Dear RedMagic,

Please do not tell people that works for you, even though it obviously does.  I'm a firm believer of the 'you're not the exception to the rule' theory.  In other words, if a profile says no men, it means no men.  If it says no one under 25, don't take a shot if you're 21.  Most people with preferences in their profile really do mean it.  I think that allowing folks to believe otherwise is probably a mistake.


I don't remember how we started emailing each other, but I probably wrote first.  I just checked your profile, and I'm not what you're "looking" for... or vice/versa for that matter, since I'm not poly.  And yet, I'm not on your block list... yet.

I think the difference between the kind of email I am talking about, and the kind you are talking about, is that when I write a woman, I'm not looking to do her, or asking her to do me.  How could I know something like that from a profile alone?


Red and BSB, I was looking at it more from an aspect of what someone might be looking for as a partner, not as a friendly communication.  I had thought that was what Steven was referring to with people not specifying what they were looking for in their profiles.

I'm not sure what the first email exchange was, Red.  I think our discussion on cupping was later down the road.  Unless I'm mistaken, you had sent a note about the difficulties that MP and I had to go through during the military separation.

I will agree that the joke about not being able to relocate was a good ice breaker. 


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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 4:52:29 PM   
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It would be silly to put the EXACT kind of person I am looking for.  I have listed traits that he must have.  I don't care if he smokes or not. I'm not looking for a particular hair color, weight, height.  I'm interested in WHO he is not what he looks like.  I listed what was important to me, as well as a good amount about who I am.

I think people don't get into the kind of specifics you are talking about because those specifics may not be as important to them as they are to you.  It's great that you have your "ideal" in mind and that is what you want.  For me, though, I realize that perfection doesn't exist, and typically when we look with that kind of tunnel vision, we can completely miss a wonderful person because initially they don't meet those requirements.  I prefer to be more open to the possibilities.  I'm not in any hurry, but when it is right, I'll know.

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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 4:58:41 PM   
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Do people actually read the profiles?  Mine quite clearly states im not looking and that i have another profile on here and what name it is etc etc.... yet still i get messages from guys who then have the nerve to inform me that they think im too busy for anything in my life right now.. hellooooooooooooooooooooooooo i think i aready know that.... honestly to god.... i wont mention the one that messaged both profiles asking why i had stolen my own pics....  its very tiring being a woman in a world that contains men.,,,,,,

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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 5:23:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

So many of them don't specify who they want.......





I understand your rant but my question is, what if you do specify what you want from a partner and it gets ignored?
I'm fairly clear on what I want in my profile (and journal..which I suggest they read before emailing me) in regards to label (switch/sub male), location, approach...heck, I even mention I prefer a non-smoker.
That doesn't mean I won't get emails like the one I recieved from a man on the west coast wanting to add me to his friend list so we could "get closer" and would I be interested in a "cyber relationship". I told him if he had taken the time to read my profile, he would have understood why I was responding the way I was.

I'm aware I may be limiting myself by the preferences I list but that's my choice. It appears to be the choice of many others not to show an interest in exactly what those preferences are.

< Message edited by CarrieO -- 5/24/2009 5:45:39 PM >


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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 5:42:16 PM   
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In my relatively short time on the system what I have seen is that many (perhaps most) people do not even look at, let alone read, profiles.  Nearly every time I come and hang out in the chat rooms on here some Dom starts private messaging me.  When I ask why they decided to chat me up they can never say, because they don't know anything about me or my situation.  Inevitably they end up getting pissed off when they finaly realize I'm a guy.


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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 5:43:55 PM   
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I see profiles that start "I don't know what to put here", or "I suppose I should write something". And I think that P/people rush their profiles as a result, so, thats My take on this-that people rush their profiles and miss things out.

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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 5:57:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I want someone who doesn't smoke, has no drinking.drug issues, reads, is within a specified age range, has a sense of humor, likes nights in, likes to go out...


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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 6:06:48 PM   
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One thing that bugs me is when I read profiles stating what they don't want, and not a single thing about what they're looking for. 

As I said in a recent journal entry, energy put out is energy returned.  Or you catch more flies with honey than you do shit.

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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 6:15:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SummerWind

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I want someone who doesn't smoke, has no drinking.drug issues, reads, is within a specified age range, has a sense of humor, likes nights in, likes to go out...


TryHere


I wonder if they have Jewish girls...


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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 6:27:38 PM   
SummerWind


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

quote:

ORIGINAL: SummerWind

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I want someone who doesn't smoke, has no drinking.drug issues, reads, is within a specified age range, has a sense of humor, likes nights in, likes to go out...


TryHere


I wonder if they have Jewish girls...


I'm pretty sure each of them had a Jewish girl before joining

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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 6:35:54 PM   
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You havent been to many farms, have you?
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quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveboy291

Or you catch more flies with honey than you do shit.

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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 6:38:01 PM   
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FR, after read thru

I change my profiles around -- a lot -- but I notice most others don't. Well, mostly I muck about with just the main profile, DemonKia . . . . . I finally rationalized all 3 into something that makes sense to me. I set this DemonKia one to 'switch', & the other two are my 'topping' & 'bottoming' interests, respectively . . . . At least for now, lol . . . . & I had two other profiles before these; took me awhile to find nicks I was content with, lol . .. . .

I have discovered that I quite like the process of constructing profiles . . .. . Amongst other things, for me it has unfolded as a tool for self-love . .. . . lol . . . . . The more I muck about with my profiles, the more I like me . . . . . lol . . . . Which means that I change them around whenever I feel the need . . . . . .

I've also found these profile tools to be useful for continuing to think / feel / discover who I am & how I fit into the wider universe & the BDSM world . . . . . Sort of amplified & codified journaling experience, with interactive peer review feedback built into it, if one is so inclined . . . . .

Technically I've given up on 'looking', I'm mostly just here to amuse & edify myself . . . . . . If I was in seeking-out-mating-material mode, I'd tend to see my profiles, & journal & message board entries, as my 'dating curriculum vitae', the resume for my love life, in a sense . . . . ..

I think I might be a leading contender for having the wordiest profile on CM; it's so weird that DarkSteven should bring this up, & the discussion should encompass 'lengthy versus concise' topics -- yesterday, on the spur of whatever, I dumped my DemonKia profile text into a word-processing document to get a word count: a hair over 3,600 words, which works out to roughly 14+ pages of text. (The 'standard' in the publishing industry is that a 'page' of text with 1 inch margins on 8 1/2 x 11 paper & using an ordinary 10 or 12 point font should have somewhere in the neighborhood of 250 words, FYI . . . . ) The other two profiles have far fewer words, only a coupla pages apiece, lol . . . . . .

There's a purpose to my madness, & it's another one of those oddities of timing that I just came up with this (a few days ago) to augment the delineations of what I seek (from my DK profile):


Additional amplification on stuff I'm looking for in relationship -- could be plural people, too -- (extra points if you 'get' these references without google, hehehe):

The 'Virginia' to my 'Robert Heinlein';

The 'Walter Burns' to my 'Hildy Johnson', tho' more Hawks' version than Varley's;

The intellectual 'Friday' to my literary 'Crusoe';

See, that's a big chunk of why reading my writing is so important to me, I'm looking for my 'partner(s) in crime', those who want to help me be the best me I can be, & my writing is my life. I've been writing since the first flickers of adult consciousness, & I'll write 'til the day I die, it's all I've ever really wanted to do with my life, to be a 'great writer'. To influence & inspire minds for centuries to come. To entertain, educate, & edify.


I feel pretty comfortable that all my text gives a pretty decent taste of what I'm like as a person, & that it serves as an effective filter for those who aren't well-matched . . . .. . Ya know, I'm the kinda person who (rather inadvertently) makes up jokes & puns about deconstructionism & post-modernism & other intellectual esoterica; reading profile text is sorta the minimal 'entrance fee', & anyone who wades thru all that is probably actually interested in me as a person, as best as can be determined online . .. . . (Hell, I read thru my own profiles at least once a week, on average. Part of my self-love thing, hehehehe -- I love the way I write, what I have to say, my interests, & etc, lol, I'm enjoying me even if no one else does, so .. . . *shrugs* . . . . . )

& those expectations have worked pretty well . . . . . . My expectation at this point in time is near zero percent return, but I actually get something on the order of 1 to 4 sincere contacts a month, from persons who not only read thru all those words but actually enjoyed the experience, hehehehe . ... . . .

& as for the non-readers of profiles contacting me thru the DemonKia profile, they get a polite form letter asking them to contact me after they've read thru my DK profile, lol . .. . . . If they get rude, they get blocked. & now that my main profile is listed as 'switch' & I've stripped out 99% of the 'sex interests' from my blue list, I'm getting hardly any clueless cmails . . ... Hehehe. But. I'm playing 'dirty poker' with those who don't pull up full profiles & read before contacting. On my 'topping' & 'bottoming' profiles I stripped out all the 'vanilla' interests & have only the sex stuff, & those profiles both clearly & repeatedly state that I only communicate & negotiate thru the DemonKia profile. & I've set them both so that all cmails go to garbage, & it states that in the profile text, clearly & repeatedly. I thought that was dastardly mean & clever of me. I am such a bitch. *pats self on back*

I'm so pleased with how the CM interface works, & with the profile & journal features, that I consider this to be my primary online 'social-networking home' . .. . lol . . . . I've been working on this concept of my 'integrated social-networking self' as a tool for figuring out how to self-promote (an important skill-set if I ever actually wanna make $$$ at writing, lol, & a set which is one of my weak spots), & it's increasingly looking like my DemonKia CM profile will be central to that . .. .. .




As for reading the profiles of others:

I find reading thru profiles to be an education in itself . .. . . I've yet to read a 'real profile' that was some kinda stereotype of kink; the combinations of interests continue to delight & astound me in their diversity & seemingly bizarre compoundings . . . .

I'm not always sure what any data I take in 'means', frequently I just note stuff & move on . . .. Into that category is where a lot of my profile perusings goes . . . . .

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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/24/2009 6:40:36 PM   
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You havent been to many farms, have you?

You read my mind, Kyst!


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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/25/2009 4:04:40 AM   
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Funnily enough the thing that strikes me about so many of the profiles from male Dominants is they write this list of demands and orders, all done with this great sense of entitlement, usually without so much as a mention of what THEY have to offer.  Relationships, even D/s relationships, are a two way street.  Gee, fancy that!

I sometimes wonder if they've ever browsed profiles for any length of time and realised how many gazillion male Dominants there are out there searching for female submissives and how few female submissives there are searching for male Dominants in comparison.  Given that, you'd think it might occur to some to show a little bit more humility and be quite a bit more realistic.

Rant ended.... 

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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/25/2009 7:28:22 AM   
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I just stumbled on this profile.   Straight, simple, to the point.  These are the types of profiles that make me want to take a closer look.

http://www.collarme.com/bdsm/v/384299/rzuu/83402/details.htm

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RE: A rant about profiles... - 5/25/2009 7:54:25 AM   
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I don't mind either a short or a long profile, one with orders and demands or one with flowery poetry.  It tells me what kinds of person he or she is.  My attraction to a man rests very heavily in his ability to communicate well with the written word.  Browsing profiles is a gold mine.  It allows to so easily weed out the ones I know I want no part of.  And I'm sure it allows for others who don't share my preference to weed out the ones they think are too wordy.  So, I'm glad for the disparity as it seems to be a general time saver.  



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