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RE: Grumblings & Grizzlings from the Hibernation Cave ~... - 2/9/2006 3:40:37 PM   
stef


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Clearly. You've convinced yourself that it's ok to be a racist and a liar. That's quite an accomplishment. You let me know when you manage to find the "truth."

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RE: Grumblings & Grizzlings from the Hibernation Cave ~... - 2/9/2006 8:40:15 PM   
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quote:

When a person has so much of their self invested in that mode of thinking, there are very few things that stand a chance of kicking them out of that groove and it's usually a fairly traumatic/catastrophic event that succeeds in doing so.


Gosh stef, while I know that for the most part every word you have said in this quote is true, I also know that there can be exceptions. I was one. I can remember a time in my life....a time that I am not proud of....that I was just about the coldest bitch you could ever meet. I was beat down, I was tired and I was angry....so angry I wanted the whole world to die. I didn't confine my hate to any particular race...I hated everyone. For me it wasn't a traumatic or catastrophic event that snapped me back. It was one person...holding out his hand...and willing to take a risk...willing to show me love. He was persistent, he had to be....I had built such a cold hard shell around myself that took extreme patience to chip it away. But he kept chipping and never once closed that door in my face. Just one open door....one hand...one tremendous heart. I know it's a longshot...but I do wish the same for others who find themselves in that dark abyss, for I know the hopelessness of it....but now, thanks to one....I also know the light.

Now don't misunderstand, I am not saying that he transformed me....only I had the power to do that. Just as only Veronica has that power. I guess what he did though was give me a reason to reach, a reason to find the courage and the strength within myself to take the steps. It wasn't easy...as a matter of fact it was damn hard. But over the course of my life I have tried to remember that sometimes it only takes one open door...I try hard not to slam them shut. Now maybe I am a fool for doing so, I certainly do open myself up. But if only one ever comes walking through it....it will make it worthwhile to me. I know that's not for everyone...but it works for me.

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RE: Grumblings & Grizzlings from the Hibernation Cave ~... - 2/9/2006 9:44:08 PM   
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well since i am alone in the world erin..
i doubt your wishes are gonna happen.

but i hope YOU come out okay.
all i got is 4 walls and a floor...2 dogs, and this machine.
i am not allowed anything else in my life.
or
any one else.


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RE: Grumblings & Grizzlings from the Hibernation Cave ~... - 2/9/2006 9:46:56 PM   
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Clearly. You've convinced yourself that it's ok to be a racist and a liar. That's quite an accomplishment. You let me know when you manage to find the "truth."

~stef

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look it up
i have not stopped anyone from going anywhere or doing anything
i have not burned a cross
i have not walked arfound with a sign
i have not stopped anyone from enjoying THEIR life
but they damned sure have stopped ME from enjoying MINE
just like YOU
nothing but a major pain and i aint ever gonna forget or forgive a damned thing...
YOU are on my shitlist til YOU die


< Message edited by veronicaofML -- 2/9/2006 10:14:27 PM >


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RE: Grumblings & Grizzlings from the Hibernation Cave ~... - 2/9/2006 10:13:18 PM   
stef


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erin,

I'm glad that you were able to find someone to help guide you out of that pit. Somewhere inside, you found the will to grab that hand and fight your way out of the darkness and you deserve some serious credit for that. Too many people are satisfied with wallowing around in the mire of hatred and self pity and would never find that strength inside themselves and instead are content to live their life out in misery.

Thank you for not being one of those people.

~stef

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RE: Grumblings & Grizzlings from the Hibernation Cave ~... - 2/9/2006 10:18:19 PM   
veronicaofML


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stef
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ha ha

gawd
i luv that block button
she cant bother me qagain
ha ha

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RE: Grumblings & Grizzlings from the Hibernation Cave ~... - 2/9/2006 10:32:43 PM   
stef


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quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

llok it up
i have not stopped anyone from going anywhere or doing anything
i have not burned a cross
i have not walked arfound with a sign
i have not stopped anyone from enjoying THEIR life
but they damned sure have stopped ME from enjoying MINE
just like YOU

You think you need to burn crosses or march with a sign to be a racist? Jesus, you can't even tell the truth to yourself.

These are the words of a racist:

"the "asians" "I" have encountered are "self righteous self serving holier than thou", but then..so are the blacks, and the mex,...and the chinese...and whatever else Ya find non whites."

"every non white "I" have found face to face..every one of those dudes have done everything theu can to insist whites are solely responsible for THEIR troubles..
and i aint even one of the rich folks...but since i am white i get blamed..
i am sick of it.
i found...the germans are nice
the french are nice
the english are so so.
the italians are nice
hell even where i come from the czechs are nice..
but these are all considered as white caucasions"


I think these quotes pretty much say it all.

quote:

nothing but a major pain and i aint ever gonna forget or forgive a damned thing...
YOU are on my shitlist til YOU die

With your endless well of festering hatred and bile, I'm guessing you'll die long before I will. Bitter and alone in a van, down by the river (with apologies to "Matt Foley".)

~stef

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