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Joseff -> RE: Fasting (5/31/2009 9:04:09 PM)

Pride. I learned a great deal about starving, while I starved. What great insights have you gained while depriving your body of the simple needs of life, clearly so you could puff out your chest and strut around boasting your self discipline? Beware that pride.



Alphascendant -> RE: Fasting (8/10/2009 10:02:41 PM)

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True colors always shine through.



They most certainly do.



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I have learned much in this thread, the highs and lows of what fasting really does to a person.



Here have been different opinions on what fasting does to people, mostly negative feedback. Varieties of fasting have variant physical and psychological effects on various individuals.

http://www.livingnutrition.com/article_samples/diabetic.html

Fasting is known as an effective cancer treatment.

http://www.fasting.ws/juice-fasting/fasting-for-healing/fasting-cancer

If fasting does not help you with your cancer does not mean it has not, nor will not help someone else with theirs. The best way to speak about anything is from having experienced it, not reading about it, hence the appellative "educated fool." Being unable to enjoy shitting on someone does not mean that nobody can enjoy it.

http://www.energyvibrance.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11&Itemid=14

Such a vibrant community!




scarlethiney -> RE: Fasting (8/10/2009 10:14:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Alphascendant

Thank you for sharing your sense of humor with me. Is this where we prick our fingers and share blood? 


Do you work at being obnoxious or does it just come naturally?



DomKen -> RE: Fasting (8/10/2009 10:24:04 PM)

Fasting will not cure cancer. Anyone who claims it does is either a liar or a dupe.

Fasting is actually exceptionally dangerous and should not be done for extended periods, 2 or 3 days max. Specifically the brain needs protein to function properly. This is a classic technique of the cult brain washers, a low protein diet, all white rice or nothing at all, and a person quickly becomes malleable.

Other dangers include sodium defency and hypoglycemia, both of which can be fatal and both will definitely occur if nothing but water is consumed for more than a few days. As a matter of fact extended liquid only fasts wil likely result in the faster developing any number of deficiency disorders.

In short voluntary fasts of more than a couple of days is a monumentally bad idea and is akin to attempted suicide.



Louve00 -> RE: Fasting (8/11/2009 3:45:24 AM)

Fasting surely won't cure cancer.  For the sake of you thinking its something good for you to do Alphadescendant, I won't go any further.  If you think you benefit from it then its all well and good for you.  You need to study up more about cancer and what the body needs when its going through such a devastation, before you start advocating that depriving the body of essential nutrients during a time of severe depletion of the body from chemo and radiation is going on is a good way to go.  Every day.....every moment you deprive your body of nutrients and lower your immunity when battling cancer is just lending way to lose that battle.



scarlethiney -> RE: Fasting (8/11/2009 7:25:17 AM)

 
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ORIGINAL: aphotic

*Scratches head*

Not to brag, but I made it 16 hours once without eating or drinking.

I was sleeping!

Woke up with a racing heart though :(


[sm=rofl.gif]




pahunkboy -> RE: Fasting (8/11/2009 7:37:36 AM)

A colon cleanse is good.



Alphascendant -> RE: Fasting (9/2/2011 7:06:07 PM)

To the naysayers that said it couldn't be done. I completed a 40 day fast on water only.



Termyn8or -> RE: Fasting (9/2/2011 7:26:23 PM)

So, how do you feel ? (other than hungry lol)

When I fasted I generally found that afterward eating filled me up quickly and it helped me lose the weight that I now seem to be gaining back. However back then my blood sugar was as solid as bedrock because I stopped sugar like thirty years ago. Something like that. I also went on low carbs for a yaer or two. I mean really low, no bread, chips, potatoes, wheat, any of it. I did it until it fucked with my system. But now I can't depend on my system reacting exactly the way it did years ago.

A couple years ago I got really sick and lost a shitload of weight, from all the wrong (right) places and now I am gaining it back in all the wrong places. All I can do is try to stay active. Good thing the internet is degenerating, now I can enjoy outdoors :-), well really I do have a laptop but still, a lawn chair or stoop isn't the same as having a shovel in your hand.

T^T



Alphascendant -> RE: Fasting (9/2/2011 7:42:39 PM)

I learned not to go grocery shopping after 38 days with no food and $500 cash in my pocket, spent every bit.

Came off it totally wrong, did it last winter. About a week after, sat on a plane for nearly eight hours. If not for the experience of water retention from a previous fast, it would have scared the shit out of me, had there been any...

Don't plan on doing it again. If I was to try, would do it alone out in the wilderness somewhere. Everybody freaked to fuck out and the lingering effects of alienation have yet, or might not ever wear away.

What I noticed most was the negativity, especially in the eyes, of others.

I didn't plow my driveway last winter, opting to rough it in my first winter back home, and dragged all my firewood on a sled about 300 feet from the road. One of the last nights, I remember loading wood on to the sled at about 2 am. It was difficult to carry even one stick, until I just got on my knees and carried the wood. It brought me back to my childhood days of playing in the snow, then it became enjoyable.

The most important thing was keeping a positive outlook, knowing that I wouldn't die, although, I did in a dream.

At first, a few people thought it was cool, until, slowly they realized that I just might make it. Mind over matter.



Termyn8or -> RE: Fasting (9/2/2011 7:45:49 PM)

I died in a dream. The most profound part of it was the acceptance.

T^T



Aynne88 -> RE: Fasting (9/2/2011 7:52:59 PM)

2 year old thread guys. Can't do it. 



Alphascendant -> RE: Fasting (9/2/2011 7:55:56 PM)

I was driving a car, my uncle was following in a truck. Suddenly, the car went into a spin, everything was spinning. It went off the road, and when I got out of the car, I was surprised that my uncle didn't stop and was nowhere to be seen. I tried to dig out behind the tires, then I saw a tow truck appear. I thought, "Great, he will pull me out." So, when I walked up to the side of the road, the tow truck was nowhere in sight, and there was the car I was driving on the other side of the road. Suddenly, I felt as if I must have died, and the best part was, I was not afraid.



Alphascendant -> RE: Fasting (9/2/2011 7:58:50 PM)

I opened this thread back up because there was a lot of negativity about my previous attempts at fasting for 40 days, saying there was no way a person could survive that long. They are wrong.

Be thankful I don't open up Criminally Violent Sub again...



Termyn8or -> RE: Fasting (9/2/2011 8:07:15 PM)

I was riding in the back seat of an SUV, one that strangely resembled one that I later owned. I was in the backseat and the vehicle went off the road into pure mud with all the windows open. There was no more breathing. Rather than get frantic with my reaction, I simply accepted that it was the end. I was at peace.

"Be thankful I don't open up Criminally Violent Sub again.."

Hey, start a new one !

T^T



Alphascendant -> RE: Fasting (9/2/2011 8:18:36 PM)

I'm not afraid of dying, and actually welcome the idea as a healthy transformation away from the material world.

Start a new CVS thread?? That's too funny!! I do have another thread in mind though..



HannahLynHeather -> RE: Fasting (9/2/2011 9:32:11 PM)

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To the naysayers that said it couldn't be done. I completed a 40 day fast on water only.
ok, and you proved what? that you're stupid enough to not eat for 40 days. big fucking whoop, that isn't something i would boast about that's for sure.



Termyn8or -> RE: Fasting (9/3/2011 2:20:59 AM)

Hanny, it's not stupid. You are showing somethng here and it is not ummmm, good. Just because you don't understand it , it is stupid ?

You gotta lotta fucking explaining to do now.

T^T



Termyn8or -> RE: Fasting (9/3/2011 2:38:46 AM)

"I'm not afraid of dying, and actually welcome the idea as a healthy transformation away from the material world."

Same here, and I am actually curious. But my family doesn't see it that way. I can't go before my Mother, that would be VERY wrong, and then I have one sister, and as much as I did call her my sinister and how we are about certain things, once Ma goes, if I ain't there she will literally fall apart. I only live for the living. and only two of them. Myself, I am not afraid, nor even skeptical, I want to KNOW FOR SURE what happens next. And if it is nothing, so be it. My life, my gamble. I could just say fuck them anytime, like many many others have done to me, whether willing or not. You see, by the time I was 35 I knew more dead people than alive, and still do. My really best friends are dead, and most of them have been dead for over ten years.

I lost ALOT of people a long time ago, way before it was my time to do so. It changed me. I make no pretense about meeting them in some afterlife or anything like that, but there has been a void in the world for decades for me.

Not eating, not seeking medical attention, not doing things for my own safety, it is all part of the same thing. I do not care if I live or die. What's left of my family can accept my death I think, as long as it's not by my own hand.

Something else, for a time I used to wake up around ten, go to work until five and get home at about six thirty, and during that whole time I had not drank one molecule of water or any other beverage at all. Liquid is harder to stop than solid.

But I did without. I did it just because, and I am glad I did. Most people don't understand what self deprivation can do for a person, and probably never will.

T^T

ETA, the list of names would take some time to read, but then what about some short bios ? Days. These people had lives. They belonged alive, run over, fell off roofs, shit like this. MY PEOPLE. How many does it take ? Of course I am fucking nuts, what did you expect ?
T^T



Termyn8or -> RE: Fasting (9/3/2011 2:42:26 AM)

oops



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