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zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Fasting (9/3/2011 4:01:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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To the naysayers that said it couldn't be done. I completed a 40 day fast on water only.
ok, and you proved what? that you're stupid enough to not eat for 40 days. big fucking whoop, that isn't something i would boast about that's for sure.


And woke up a 2-year-old thread to tell us about it. [8|]




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Fasting (9/3/2011 5:36:24 AM)

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Hanny, it's not stupid. You are showing somethng here and it is not ummmm, good. Just because you don't understand it , it is stupid ?
yes it fucking is. there's a reason people eat. your body requires fuel and nutrients, denying them on purpose is pretty much the definition of stupid.

there, i explained it, got it now stupid?




barelynangel -> RE: Fasting (9/3/2011 6:26:33 AM)

I enjoy hearing experiences about fasting -- i mean hell millions of people around the world do a concept of fasting at various times during the year for whatever reasons, some religious, some health (i mean i am told not to eat for 12 hours prior to my blood tests -- the body needs nutrition every 2-4 or hell i will say even every 5ish hours yes?), some just to see if they can and others still as a form of discipline for themselves and many at various lengths. 

There really is from what i read about fasting a lot of ignorance about it -- i suggest people read up on the concept if they are interested.  As the OP is posting after he did it, it didn't kill him -- and in the end there is always the saying -- that which does not kill us, makes us stronger.

OP, congrats on accomplishing this goal.  It was something you wanted to do and if you had said you were going to do something else that many would consider extreme and accomplished it -- i'd say congrats also.

All in all, the way i see it is many many people overeat extremely nutrition and calories they need in a day and they do it for a hell of a lot more than 40 days, so if someone decides they are going to go in the opposite direction to an extreme -- go for it to me one is not any different than the other.

angel




thishereboi -> RE: Fasting (9/3/2011 7:21:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Alphascendant

To the naysayers that said it couldn't be done. I completed a 40 day fast on water only.


And felt the need to drag this thread back up to tell us about it. What a good little boy you are.




Termyn8or -> RE: Fasting (9/3/2011 9:51:46 AM)

"there, i explained it, got it now stupid? "

Oh great one, how blessed I am to have your ultimate wisdom shine down on me. In my fifty years of life it never occurred to me that one must eat to live.

Why don't you tell us what else you don't understand so that we may know what is stupid ? PLEEEEZE ! We don't want to waste our time on things that are stupid. Please tell us all the things we don't need to know about, i.e. what you don't understand. In short segments please, because I'm sure there's alot of it.

T^T




PeonForHer -> RE: Fasting (9/3/2011 3:37:33 PM)

FR

Does anyone remember that woman who claimed that one could live on air alone? You didn't need food, as such, you could get all the required nutrients just from breathing air?

Far, far out.

Jesus. Here it is. She was a "Breatharian" Christ on a giraffe.




Termyn8or -> RE: Fasting (9/3/2011 9:28:03 PM)

"Does anyone remember that woman who claimed that one could live on air alone?"

Breatharians or something. I remember them. They were caught eating on occasion. Actually they did have a point, we eat and shit, if we shit enough we don't get fat. People really do eat too much. But if you decide to eat less then you must be familiar with where the nutrients are, and there is little in the way of information on that. I have some, gleaned from foreign sources decades ago, but most people will say that's all bullshit. That's because they do not realize that even though I am an ugly MF I am in the shape of a Man half my age. At 51 I have all my teeth, plenty of hair and still get a hardon like a teenager. I don't get winded walking up to the store or a bunch of flights of stairs.

I have fasted but I limited it to five days. A forty day fast is exceptional, very unusual. I bet the colon is about as clean as it gets. But then why that long ? I think it was too long, fifteen days should suffice really. But that is not my call.

T^T




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Fasting (9/4/2011 12:38:18 AM)

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Actually they did have a point
no they didn't. breatarians are just fucking idiots.




LiveByYourNature -> RE: Fasting (9/4/2011 3:31:06 AM)

I'm pretty sure that most people who go on 40-day, water only type fasts are not trying to lead an otherwise normal life at the same time. The only times I've heard of people doing it, on purpose, they were out in the desert, at the bank of a river, living in a mud hut, doing something uncivilized, contemplating their life, communing with God, or, etc. They were not be-bopping around a city, trying to get a full day's work, plus their workout, in. When Gandhi fasted, he mostly did it laying down, from what I've seen and read; at least, for the prolonged fasts.




LiveByYourNature -> RE: Fasting (9/4/2011 3:37:28 AM)

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This is a BDSM site, not a quest for personal perfection

Life, for some, is the quest for personal perfection, and, BDSM is called so as a reference to some integral part of one's personal lifestyle. Therefore, BDSM is, or can be, part of a quest for personal perfection.

Questing for personal perfection is all about discipline, motivation, punishing the flesh to reach the mind (in the case of fasting and self flagellation, at any rate), and all sorts of other things that BDSM incorporates.

I don't even like this man, not remotely, after the crappy things he said in other posts, but, I don't think he deserves to be insulted or argued with, for bringing up fasting and asking to hear about other people's experiences; especially when he made the post in the section for Off Topic discussions.

Maybe you need to fast, until whatever crawled up your ass dies of starvation or crawls back out again, looking for the next Big Mac.




DeviantlyD -> RE: Fasting (9/4/2011 3:40:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LiveByYourNature

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This is a BDSM site, not a quest for personal perfection

Life, for some, is the quest for personal perfection, and, BDSM is called so as a reference to some integral part of one's personal lifestyle. Therefore, BDSM is, or can be, part of a quest for personal perfection.

Questing for personal perfection is all about discipline, motivation, punishing the flesh to reach the mind (in the case of fasting and self flagellation, at any rate), and all sorts of other things that BDSM incorporates.

I don't even like this man, not remotely, after the crappy things he said in other posts, but, I don't think he deserves to be insulted or argued with, for bringing up fasting and asking to hear about other people's experiences; especially when he made the post in the section for Off Topic discussions.

Maybe you need to fast, until whatever crawled up your ass dies of starvation or crawls back out again, looking for the next Big Mac.


Oh, the irony of this post. [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]




Epytropos -> RE: Fasting (9/4/2011 3:53:13 AM)

As a rule, I try to avoid things which are patently unhealthy unless they are also highly entertaining. Not eating is not within my definition of highly entertaining, and the only value of self-discipline lies in its ability to improve us, which not eating doesn't do. Demonstrating self-discipline in that way is not unlike doing the little logic puzzles the Mensa types are so obsessed with - at best you've proven that you have the capacity to achieve without actually achieving, and at worst you've proven the opposite. Neither better you in any way. If stroking your own ego is sufficient to make you feel fulfilled, by all means, but frankly I try to aim higher.




Termyn8or -> RE: Fasting (9/5/2011 9:14:04 PM)

So here we are.




"no they didn't. breatarians are just fucking idiots."

Hannah the oracle of the world, it* will tell you what matters and what does not. She is so fucking wise that I am going to kill myself and put up a banner to her on the front lawn, citing collarme as myu inspiration. Fucking happy now ?




"I'm pretty sure that most people who go on 40-day, water only type fasts are not trying to lead an otherwise normal life at the same time."

I can do three days pretty much standing on my head, five, well beer makes it easier, but I can do it, well at least I could. But I am talking about going to work every day and shit, not just laying in bed. There is a diffeence. Where most people run into bad problems is their blood glucose level. I mean everything can seem just fine but then you black out on the highway and wake up to an ambulance, a bunch of cops and maybe some dead people if your luck is really bad that day. Diabetics have to have a doctor's certification to have a license to drive. That's one thing, but when you fast you don't know exactly how it will affect you.

Let's put it this way, if your blood sugar goes ytoo low not only can you smash your car, the cops might think you're drunk and give you a DUI. It has happened. Not to me, when they caught me drunk I was drunk, but I have heard of this happening. If the person takes the breatalyzer, it may be different, they don't have to go to jail and shit, but forever they will need the certification to drive, from a doctor.

And there are other things. I have always been moderately acrophobic (scared of heights). I will get up there but usually I am worth shit once I get up there. I have tried to analyse myself to some extent and actually I think that is I was REALLY high up I might be OK because if I fell I would be sure to die. What I fear actually is the injury that can happen at lower heights.

I avoid lower heights. Man I am just coining phrases out the ass today huh.

Now I have fasted and I remember what it feels like. On the five day, it was like I was drunk but I wasn't. So if anyone takes to doing this shit, be careful, don't drive or operate machinery. I mean I have a very strong body, I don't mean I can leap tall buildings in a single bound and shit, but my endocrine system seems to work quite well, in that I think my blood sugar is pretty fucking stable. Well other people can't count on that, and fasting and shit like that could be dangerous, unless one decides to just stay home and not bother the world.

The blood sugar drop from fasting will not kill you unless you are very weird, it shouldn't anyway. But some people might jump off a bridge or something.

This all gets into body chemistry and shit. More later, otherwise I will be all night on this post and then it will be too long to read.

T^T




mummyman321 -> RE: Fasting (9/5/2011 9:26:04 PM)

I reallly cannot believe this thread has made it this far. Who in their right mind would fast for 40+ days? I actually like food. I like to eat. Fast if you must but do not count me in. I am going to eat and enjoy it!!!!




Termyn8or -> RE: Fasting (9/5/2011 9:47:31 PM)

mumster, people have reasons.

Why did someone climb Mt. Everest ? Why did our best and brightest Men of the perfect age get into a fucking tin can and try to go to the moon ? A couple of them died trying. But that didn't scare the rest away.

That is what is missing in people now, the adventurism, the willingness to risk, to risk it all. Because I am not afraid to die I am some sort of icon, because it is true. But in years past almost everyone was like me, now you people hold on to dear life like it's all that matters. You will give up your freedoms and your rights for safety from harm. There are baloons built into your cars now in case you forget to not hit things while driving. In my day if we didn't know how the fuck to drive we got hurt or KILLED. I used to ride in cars standing up in the back seat when I was like five and when the olman punched it I went flying into the back seat HARD.

One day I was riding my bicycle and fell off, FLAT ON MY FACE. There would be three fucking ambulances today, but then I got back on the bike and rode home, leaving a blood trail.

People today are fucking wimps. If you get welfare I bet you can get air conditioning for free, because it's too hot. Bullshit. I got the airconditioner from hell and it costs almost a dollar an hour to run it. Know how many hours there are in a month ? I pay for that, not some fucking government asshole office spending the money my family and I paid all those years.

Whatever, I am from the old school, I know how it was and I know how it is. I do not like how it is. When I was five because of this thing I had, a little pedal car, I scraped off just about my entire heel. Really, it FUCKING HURT ! Know what happened ? NOTHING. Now, there would be a million dollar lawsuit, recalls of all products that even resembled the thing and letters sent out to everyone to get them in on the class action lawsuit, and on TV during the Maury Povitch show, the commercial would say "Even if you or your child hasn't been injured you might be entitled......................."

Keep your fucked up planet.

T^T




NocturnalStalker -> RE: Fasting (9/5/2011 10:49:41 PM)

BUT IT'S EDGY.




NocturnalStalker -> RE: Fasting (9/5/2011 11:59:23 PM)

On March 24th, 1998 I told my older brother to go to Hell for taking the last grape popsicle.

It's just not right.  Taking the last popsicle, I mean.




tazzygirl -> RE: Fasting (9/6/2011 12:01:54 AM)

~FR

Physically, understanding how the body works, the whole Krebs cycle, the need for glucose and such.... I cannot see how anyone can survive on 40 days water only fast.




Termyn8or -> RE: Fasting (9/6/2011 12:39:47 AM)

Taz, you wouldn't believe a whole lot of other things either. This is not a putdowm in any way, what I mean is that people have survived things in the past that doctors and scientist of today simply can't understand. But they did. The human body is alot more adaptable than they claim it is, we are just too lazy now. You know there is a bullet in my head right ? Back in the 1980s I was out of the hospital in five days. Today there would be twenty fucking neurosurgeons around the clock. They didn't even give me a CAT scan, anmd I know the thing was invented. It wasn't warranted, after all it was only a .38 slug in my face.

You have to put these things in perspective. Like I had a buddy of mine try to run me over with his car. I big one too, a 1973 Buick. I jumped up on the hood. The fucking problem was I didn't want to break hgis windshield and I wound up bruising my ankle. I shoulda said fukit and just went ahead and slid up the hood and maybe broke the motherfucker but that was our pussymobile.

But actually, back then really I only ate about every other day.

T^T




tazzygirl -> RE: Fasting (9/6/2011 12:44:17 AM)

Every other day I can see..... once a week, yes. Beyond that, the brain requires glucose.... not to mention the requirements of the rest of the body. The biggest complication of starvation is cardiac arrest because the body starts to feed off the heart.... the body will break down organs in order to get what it needs to survive.

Am I saying it didnt happen? Nope. I am saying that physically/biologically I dont see how.




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