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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/19/2009 10:54:18 PM   
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what about them?

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/19/2009 10:56:39 PM   
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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 2:17:18 AM   
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True. Can you envision a series based on what happens inside your mind?


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Dayum, this is better than anything on TV in a long time!
I know that was meant to be a compliment Vendaval, but given the quality of what's on TV these days, its not much of one.



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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 4:59:54 AM   
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The way I'm looking at it is, based on my own experiences with LSD and mushrooms, the chemical imbalances don't so much cause the hallucinations and such; I think they allow them to emerge and become evident by removing the chemical filter in our brain that suppresses them. I really think hallucinations, and voices, and whatever, are the natural explorations of the brain. I think our body just developed a chemical balance that keeps them in check so that we aren't distracted by them. I can't support or substantiate that, but I feel pretty confident in it.

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 5:58:33 AM   
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suicide by hanging must be properly planned, otherwise one gets into the sort of problem a friend of a friend of mine did. He set it all up properly so he thought - rope (check), knots (check), stool (check).

Except the rope was too long. He stepped from the stool and promptly broke his ankle on the floor.

Not at all how he had imagined it.
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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 5:22:48 PM   
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I'm sorry LE I really shouldn't laugh, but that is funny. Can you imagine having to explain how you managed to break your ankle.

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 5:48:14 PM   
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lol That's funny. I don't know how the guy would not have noticed the rope was too long for hanging. But hearing that, like those of you who think not to kill yourself because of what might go wrong,...I think that I shouldn't kill others in case I dont do a very good job of it.

Honestly. I've got my very own voice who's no one other than me, telling me at times, "I swear I'd love to push him down those stairs when he least expects it." I guess I could say the voices told me to do it, but it would be the first anyone would have heard of my voices. So you're all very lucky to have somone other than yourself to blame for your passions. lololol I have no excuse. I'd just very much like to do harm based on my own personal frustrations. lol 

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 7:09:47 PM   
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Thanks for posting this.  I have had a curiosity about what goes on in the mind of someone that is schizophrenic, but just never have had anyone I could personally ask.
I have never discussed this with anybody else who hears voices, before, in fact before today, only one other person on earth was aware of what it was like in there. And she came to enjoy talking with them through me. She became quite fond of some of them, and had a real love/hate relationship with one of them, they squabbled like cats and dogs. She would say something, I would repeat it to the voice, the voice would answer, and I would repeat it to her. While probably not the wisest thing one could do with hallucinatory voices, it was interesting to say the least.


I'm a mulitple, which means I have MPD/DID. I always figured that someone such as yourself Arpig would have voices similar to mine, they're always chattering away unless someones in trouble then it gets deadly quiet lol.

It's interesting to hear your point of view, how you hear and deal with your voices. And how they color your reality. Thankfully mine are fairly benign and for the most part we all get along well but have squabbles like most families. But see it's different too, we're different personalities who are co-concsious most of the time, while you have different voices.

I can kind of understand what you mean though about someone having a conversation with your voices and you repeating it back and forth. Some of the people in here are children who are too young to read and Master and I are in a long distance relationship at the moment so if a little is out either I or one of the elders will read what Master is saying to the child and type teh child's response as much as possible the way the child is speaking. it makes for some interesting conversations.

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 7:19:40 PM   
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Honestly. I've got my very own voice who's no one other than me, telling me at times, "I swear I'd love to push him down those stairs when he least expects it." I guess I could say the voices told me to do it, but it would be the first anyone would have heard of my voices. So you're all very lucky to have somone other than yourself to blame for your passions. lololol I have no excuse. I'd just very much like to do harm based on my own personal frustrations. lol
I knew that piece of paper signed by the shrink was gonna come in handy one day 

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 7:23:46 PM   
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I can kind of understand what you mean though about someone having a conversation with your voices and you repeating it back and forth. Some of the people in here are children who are too young to read and Master and I are in a long distance relationship at the moment so if a little is out either I or one of the elders will read what Master is saying to the child and type teh child's response as much as possible the way the child is speaking. it makes for some interesting conversations.
I bet it does. I take it that your Master is pretty familiar with your various personalities? I have always been led to believe that in the case of multiples, one of the personalities is the stronger (not neccesarily the one present most of the time) and can force others out of control whenever they want to. Is this so?

Hmmm maybe I should have named this thread "The voices in Our Heads". I am glad I wrote it, now I see how many others on here have various issues and problems, I feel a damn sight more comfortable around here.

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 7:24:57 PM   
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suicide by hanging must be properly planned, otherwise one gets into the sort of problem a friend of a friend of mine did. He set it all up properly so he thought - rope (check), knots (check), stool (check).

Except the rope was too long. He stepped from the stool and promptly broke his ankle on the floor.

Not at all how he had imagined it.
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shame on me but that made me giggle....

i had a cousin that was married to a real jackass that abused her and the kids.  got a call one day from another cousin, said i have good news and bad news which ya want first.

i said gimme the good.... she says eddie shot him self.  i said whats the bad then...she says the dumb sob cant do anything right-he survived!

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 7:30:19 PM   
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My question/comment~ Are you maybe also describing multi-personality disorder?


I would have thought so to, but in the case of multi-personality, my understanding is that they do notinteract with eachother, one cannot talk to them. At least that is my understanding, based on very little actual knowledge of course.


Actually some can, We are co-conscious meaning that at times we share the front space, and I may be aware and even limit what they say or do while "out" and we can make contracts with one another such as no littles out while driving or while at work or while babysitting ect. Also if a little wishes to speak to Master they ask a big to type and read for them. also we have contracts over who buys what and what is allowed and what isn't. no buying clothes or toys or junk food without permission, both from me and from Master. Also usually switchign times are scheduled so we all get time out but that I'm out front the most.

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 7:37:44 PM   
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I can kind of understand what you mean though about someone having a conversation with your voices and you repeating it back and forth. Some of the people in here are children who are too young to read and Master and I are in a long distance relationship at the moment so if a little is out either I or one of the elders will read what Master is saying to the child and type teh child's response as much as possible the way the child is speaking. it makes for some interesting conversations.
I bet it does. I take it that your Master is pretty familiar with your various personalities? I have always been led to believe that in the case of multiples, one of the personalities is the stronger (not neccesarily the one present most of the time) and can force others out of control whenever they want to. Is this so?

Hmmm maybe I should have named this thread "The voices in Our Heads". I am glad I wrote it, now I see how many others on here have various issues and problems, I feel a damn sight more comfortable around here.


He's familiar with the ones who are comfortable coming forward, he's had some fights with some, that was fun to learn about afterwards, and some he's softer with than he is with me. There is a stronger personality, that's Archer but for the most part he/she (sex changes depending on who she/he's talking to) I'm the one who's out the most. The last year or so I've been able to lose less time but there is a destructive one in here that for months didn't allow me to eat without getting sick or made me go days without sleep. because if i'm tired or sick i have less control so that means they gain more control over time. and I have had a history of one of us hurting the body. In high school she took over and held the hand to a soldering iron because she wanted to see if it was as hot as the teacher said it was. I remember watching and panicking that it was going to hurt and we'd get in trouble by the teacher but there was no pain until she left and I was pushed out front again. it blistered but didnt' scar. and the teacher never found out. Since being with Master we've made a contract about times to come out, after work and after chores are done then they can come out.

sorry, didn't mean to try to hijack your thread. I just thought it was interesting that your voices have a whole history and continue on even if you're on meds. some of us have histories before they came to the body but not many.

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 7:43:46 PM   
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No by all means carry on. I think its great that you are sharing on my thread. I did ask people to do just that.

Another question, it seems to me that sometimes you are aware of what the others are doing (watching the other touch the soldering iron) and at other times you are not (having to learn about fights after the fact), did I read that right?


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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 7:50:02 PM   
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yes, sometimes we share the front space, being aware of what the other is doing or saying and sometimes one takes over completly and I don't remember anything until someone tells me about it or i have to be subtle and ask questions to fill in the blanks. It's not so bad now but I've come home to find food i didn't buy in cupboards or hidden in the bedroom. and I tend to find music or movies I didn't downnload or don't like on my laptop, and I live in my own place alone. We have a journal we share that anyone can write in, and we have an art pad for anyone who wants to draw what they're feeling, they just have to put their name and their age on it.

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 8:02:07 PM   
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Wow!!! And I thought it was confusing having all my voices in my head. It must be really interesting to read that journal, you never know who has written in it, or what they might have written, it must be an important part of your day. I assume that the others have on occaision gotten you into a sticky situation or two over the years, how do you deal with that?

I wonder now, since I can let my voices take control of my body, and I have only the vaguest recollection of what they did while in control (such as: went outside, stayed in ate food, things like that) if indeed I may not have some sort of MPD. Do you know if the other personalities in MPD are affected by anti-psychotics?

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 8:13:23 PM   
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Wow!!! And I thought it was confusing having all my voices in my head. It must be really interesting to read that journal, you never know who has written in it, or what they might have written, it must be an important part of your day. I assume that the others have on occaision gotten you into a sticky situation or two over the years, how do you deal with that?

I wonder now, since I can let my voices take control of my body, and I have only the vaguest recollection of what they did while in control (such as: went outside, stayed in ate food, things like that) if indeed I may not have some sort of MPD. Do you know if the other personalities in MPD are affected by anti-psychotics?


Sometimes it's interesting, sometimes they get me in trouble because they'll write something in the journal that either I didn't tell Master about, or didn't want to tell Master about lol. Sometimes I'll read back and wonder who wrote what, sometimes you can tell from the writing style and sometimes you can't tell at all. That's been interestings, someone did something that I wasn't aware of and wrote about it and that caused a huge mess that Master and i had to sort out. Mostly it's a matter of trying to figure out who did what, who wrote what ect and then what changes need to be made, why they did it. the one who caused the messy situation was actually talking to another Dom on the phone, leading him on and enjoyed causing him a huge phone bill. She's not a nice person. so Master had to put a stop to that especially since talking to the other Dom who didn't know we have triggers kept hitting them so i'd 'wake up" in a ball on the couch sobbing and not know why.

As far as I know they aren't affected by anti-pshychotics, it's not a chemical malfunction of the brain, it's actually a self defense mechanism against abuse or trauma mostly in childhood but you can splinter off as an adult. It's not the wiring that's crossed it's that the psyche has kind of sectioned itself off into bits. Most people can say they have more the one personality, the work personality who gets things done, they're a different person at  home, more relaxed ect. Except at the end of the day for them they know who they are, what they like, what their beliefs are ect. it's like a magnified more extreme version of that, instead of putting a different face on while at work it may be a completly different person.

We like different things like different food or different clothes, we may talk a bit differently, we have different opinions and belief systems. debates are interesting, I never know which side I'll be on in five minutes.

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 8:19:09 PM   
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As far as I know they aren't affected by anti-pshychotics, it's not a chemical malfunction of the brain, it's actually a self defense mechanism against abuse or trauma mostly in childhood but you can splinter off as an adult. It's not the wiring that's crossed it's that the psyche has kind of sectioned itself off into bits. Most people can say they have more the one personality, the work personality who gets things done, they're a different person at home, more relaxed ect. Except at the end of the day for them they know who they are, what they like, what their beliefs are ect. it's like a magnified more extreme version of that, instead of putting a different face on while at work it may be a completly different person.
Ok, well then I do not have MPD, since the pills work for me.

Can you prevent the others from coming forward?


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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 8:23:45 PM   
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I can stop them from coming forward but over time it becomes harder to do, so we've made a contract, during the week most of them stay back, the kids can go to the play room or the play ground ect (yes there's a whole world in my head) but they are not to come to the front on days I work. During the work week I stay up front unless there is a situation at work with a customer that I can't handle, then another adult usually Archer or Devil's Advocate will come out and deal with the customer and if things are still iffy they stay out with me. On my days off after chores and shopping and errands are done and our nap then the others may come out, usually it's the kids who want to come out and play with their toys or draw or color or watch cartoons. While visiting Master in May he took us to the zoo and said anyone who wanted to come out could as long as they stayed by him and followed the rules. The kids still talk about feeding the ducks and the goats.

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RE: The voices in my head. - 6/20/2009 8:26:04 PM   
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It won't let me edit the post above, yes I can hold them back but if I do it too long my hands will start to shake and then i'll start switching fully, without awarness and losing sleep and not being able to eat again, I also get crankier and jumpier, I don't want Master to touch me, any little thing can set me switching at that point so it's best to regulate it and let them out but in a safe environment.

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