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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 10:50:10 AM   
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Except when they don't want you to do that. Since they chose you for your intelligence and your ability to help them avoid bad decisions by not obeying bad orders.


*laughs* Which I specifically covered early in the M/s relationship by saying flat out...

If I ever give you a command which, in your considered opinion, is likely to torpedo you, me, or the relationship, I want you to stop and let me know about it. If such a thing occurs, it's a mistake on my part since those outcomes are NEVER going to be what I desired..


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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 10:50:26 AM   
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Awhile back i scoured the forums just out of curiosity to see what E/everyone's ideas of good sub traits were and made them into a list for reference......you've got c-mail. 

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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 10:53:03 AM   
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Now, for some seriously fucked up reason, I am hearing (in my head of course) Wayne and Garth saying "We're not worthy! We're not worthy!!!"


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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 10:54:18 AM   
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Sorry not to be too helpful but if I have to explain or justify myself why I'm worthy of being in a relationship with someone I'd rather pass and move on or wait for someone for whom my worth is apparent and doesn't need discussing.


I'm with you on this Stella.

I feel the way about the "Can you tame me?" question.

If you're not tame, feral, raised by wolves, not house broken, no .. I can't help you.

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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 10:54:45 AM   
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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 10:57:44 AM   
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I have the opportunity to spend some time with a Mistress.  She wants me to explain to her why I am worthy to wear Her collar.  I know this will vary based on the individual, but what can make someone worthy.  Any suggestions will be helpful.


But her question really appears to be what makes you worthy of serving her.

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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 11:04:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree this is probably the wrong thread to ask this question but as usual I"LL add my two cents...In all the years I have owned slaves I can still count on two hands those 'worthy' of earning a collar,they come, they serve in some instances for years serving to earn our collar...what is the number one thing that makes us collar, Its the slave.sub being intuitive of our needs, almost at time reading our minds..it can be scary when I need a pen or a tool there they are with one in hands,,Anticipating your owners needs and being there to fulfill them..Now thats a slave...I may also add when is a master/mistress worthy of collaring a slave..Too many owners that Master without Mastering them selfs..bounty

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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 11:07:43 AM   
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I have the opportunity to spend some time with a Mistress.  She wants me to explain to her why I am worthy to wear Her collar.  I know this will vary based on the individual, but what can make someone worthy.  Any suggestions will be helpful.


I hate that "worthy" crap. You might be worthy of a good owner, domme or whatever, and still be a bad match for her. The two of you might be amazing, wonderful people, and still not fit together well. What do you have in common? What traits do you each have that compliment the other's?

And why is she worthy of you? I'd ask her that, when you're done with your explanation. Remember, you're shopping too. If it were me, I'd probably be so annoyed by her question that I'd drop her. There are a lot nicer ways to put it, if you want someone to tell you why they're deserving of you. Asking why you're "worthy" comes across as presumptuous and arrogant, to me. If it were me I'd tell her thank you very much but I'll need a domme who isn't vain and rude. Then I'd go find a domme who is polite and modest, and knows how to ask someone about themselves in a nice way.



My thoughts exactly.

I dont get this worthy clap trap, I have 2 collared slave's, and one under consideration.

If I want them, I collar them, simple as that.

No explanations, especially from the potential sub/slave :)

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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 11:09:39 AM   
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Sorry not to be too helpful but if I have to explain or justify myself why I'm worthy of being in a relationship with someone I'd rather pass and move on or wait for someone for whom my worth is apparent and doesn't need discussing.



I agree stella :)

Why explain, describe or justify, it should be already plain to see

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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 11:50:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Intelligent or not, it is not for my property to determine what is or is not a bad order. The exception being the "pit of spikes" exception I have given her. This means an obvious and direct threat to someone's safety.

As far as worthy, devotion and obedience are two of the qualities, but those must be combined with intelligence, sense of humor, and pleasing to look at.


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IMO what makes someone worthy is obedience, doing what your mistress tells you without question. 


Except when they don't want you to do that. Since they chose you for your intelligence and your ability to help them avoid bad decisions by not obeying bad orders.


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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 12:05:55 PM   
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And why is she worthy of you? I'd ask her that, when you're done with your explanation. Remember, you're shopping too. If it were me, I'd probably be so annoyed by her question that I'd drop her. There are a lot nicer ways to put it, if you want someone to tell you why they're deserving of you. Asking why you're "worthy" comes across as presumptuous and arrogant, to me. If it were me I'd tell her thank you very much but I'll need a domme who isn't vain and rude. Then I'd go find a domme who is polite and modest, and knows how to ask someone about themselves in a nice way.


What she said.  Very well put.

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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 12:08:15 PM   
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Sorry not to be too helpful but if I have to explain or justify myself why I'm worthy of being in a relationship with someone I'd rather pass and move on or wait for someone for whom my worth is apparent and doesn't need discussing.



I also think this way.

Even if he asked me NOW, I still wouldn't come up with any *worthiness* ...... I could come up with a few REASONS why he might like owning me. It's up to him to decide what worth I have in his life and up to me to decide what worth he has in mine.

I hope we never have to actually ASK each other other than in a general, inquisitive, joint* having a glass of wine* conversation.

Ok, that's the whole relationshippy thing dealt with..

Reasons you might be worthy...

She likes you.
She wants you.
You're prepared to try to decipher why.

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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 1:14:21 PM   
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Sorry not to be too helpful but if I have to explain or justify myself why I'm worthy of being in a relationship with someone I'd rather pass and move on or wait for someone for whom my worth is apparent and doesn't need discussing.


In some cases, the dominant might want to make sure that your worth is apparent *to you*, which is why they might ask the question.

It's one I've asked a time or two, because I wanted to hear my submissive proudly state his own value and worth, and because he needed to be brought to the point where he could stand tall and do this for himself.  It can be empowering and freeing to be "forced" to do this, and it can make an excellent teaching tool.

It can also backfire badly if the submissive doesn't understand why the question is being asked, obviously.

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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 1:28:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		uh you are a sub switch couple, why wouldn't you want to be collared to your switch lady?

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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 1:44:27 PM   
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To me, one important aspect would be knowing why they're "worthy" without asking others for stock answers.


Yep - i'd have to agree. She asked you why you think you're worthy, not why in general a sub is worthy. So - i'd recommend taking a deep look within yourself.


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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 1:48:05 PM   
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uh you are a sub switch couple, why wouldn't you want to be collared to your switch lady?



Yeah, what's up with that?

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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 2:03:56 PM   
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uh you are a sub switch couple, why wouldn't you want to be collared to your switch lady?



Yeah, what's up with that?


Yeah, what IS up with that?  And if you do, as far as i know you can't be collared to multiple Dom/mes at the same time.

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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 2:08:26 PM   
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Sorry not to be too helpful but if I have to explain or justify myself why I'm worthy of being in a relationship with someone I'd rather pass and move on or wait for someone for whom my worth is apparent and doesn't need discussing.


In some cases, the dominant might want to make sure that your worth is apparent *to you*, which is why they might ask the question.

It's one I've asked a time or two, because I wanted to hear my submissive proudly state his own value and worth, and because he needed to be brought to the point where he could stand tall and do this for himself.  It can be empowering and freeing to be "forced" to do this, and it can make an excellent teaching tool.

It can also backfire badly if the submissive doesn't understand why the question is being asked, obviously.



I would agree .... In the right hands it could be an excellent teaching tool or exercise in self realisation. It could also be however a means of self-agrandisement for a Duminate with a thing for wriggly worms declaring their everlasting devotion.

As with everything ... context is key.


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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 2:09:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know more than a few people who do belong to more than one dominant.  As for the being a switch couple it may be that both are top/bottom'y, and not so much into dominance.  I, for instance am a submissive, masochist and sadist.  I am in no way a dominant.  And it would be a disservice to me and anyone I may be playing with to try to fill a role that is clearly out of my comfort zone.  But beat the heck out of them? Yeah.. I could do that.
As for what makes people worthy.. OP are  you also asking what makes your choice a worthy candidate for you?
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uh you are a sub switch couple, why wouldn't you want to be collared to your switch lady?



Yeah, what's up with that?


Yeah, what IS up with that?  And if you do, as far as i know you can't be collared to multiple Dom/mes at the same time.


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RE: What makes someone worthy to be collared - 6/17/2009 2:10:06 PM   
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uh you are a sub switch couple, why wouldn't you want to be collared to your switch lady?



Yeah, what's up with that?


Yeah, what IS up with that?  And if you do, as far as i know you can't be collared to multiple Dom/mes at the same time.


I am collared to three Dominants.

Or am I imagining the leather secured around my neck ...*checks carefully*

Nope it's there,




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