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Esinn -> Authority of the Bible? (6/24/2009 10:03:21 AM)
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I enjoy speaking about and studying religion but it was not the reason I came here. I was shocked to even find this type of forum here. That said I have been reading some threads.
They contain several problems. The biggest one people assume the bible has some sort of authority because the bible says in its pages it does. No one should be forced to bow down to this type of logic - circular reasoning. It is like a DOM who demands but does not command respect. There is no justification, no reason to respect them yet. What this means relevant to this discussion until you are able to clearly demonstrate and articulate that the bible not the book of Mormon, Qur'an, Book of The Dead, Bhagavad Gita, Veda or Talmud is the true authority then stop quoting it like it is. Remember you are the one making the positive assertion so you have taken on the burden of proof.
If you tell another person that their 'loved' one is cheating on them they will demand evidence prior to accepting this or taking action - rightfully so. However, if you tell them an invisible being who created the known ex-nihlo also wrote the book on their nightstand this proposition is simply accepted as true?!?!?!. Typically the book the believer accepts has more to do with geographic location than any type of informed research. Most likely there was never a DDx(differential diagnosis)/comparative religious study. I do not know how to hit this home. The book was accepted because the family of the believer said so. The family of the believer accepted the book because the book said it was true. This not true in every case possibly not yours.
This is dangerous because each holy book makes exclusive claims which contradict each other demanding specific types of actions/behaviours of its followers. These actions have caused friction in society with people who without religion are the same. This friction has been escalated to war leading to the worst violence and blood shed man has known since the beginning. It has also been used to justify torture well outside the realm of S&M.
Yes, yes I know you have faith. I know understand the biblical definition of faith no need to quote it. Faith is acceptance of something inspite of or in lack of evidence. Each holy book has just as many followers with just as much faith as yourself - possibly a great deal more. 9/11 was a demonstration, a vile one mind you, of men with faith. People have killed, died and tortured for their god will you?
Aside from personal experience - all religions have believers with personal experience.
Aside from faith - all religions demand faith
Aside from circular reasoning
Why should I accept the bible?
E-Sin
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