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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 9:46:28 AM   
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I simply suggested desexing methods which I know from personally witnessing their use are effective


You called the cops? Not calling the cops would be a serious felony right?


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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 10:01:30 AM   
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Castration lass, I suggest public castration for the male and for the female a good fucking via a fucking machine loaded with a barbed wire penis.. A proven birth control method I can assure you. 


Holy scheiss!!  Now that's wicked.  Well, she most certainly would not be fucking anymore.  I'm sure glad I'm not her!! 

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 10:18:08 AM   
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Personally I find the idea that a group of "adults" base their lives on badly written sci-fi hilarious. Shame they don't have the mental capacity to live their lives based on their own morality and code. I mean come on folks do you really need a set of stupid books to show you the way. Grow up and use your brains.


Oh really????  Does this also apply to people who are Scientologists? People who believe in the Koran? The Bible? Or any other religious or spiritual manifest? It's a damn shame that some don't have the maturity nor the common sense to have a little more tolerance for others who mold their lives around a set of morals which may be different from one's own.

From what I have seen and gleamed from reading, listening and observing; people who believe in a Gor based way of life, is the fact they hold themselves and their own to a set of values and morals which are more strictly based on self awareness, integrity for themselves and for their home. When you look at it, in many ways they are no different then anyone of us, most have clearly stated they DO NOT live their lives exactly what is portrayed in the books written by John Norman. They base their lives and personal philosophy around a concept which holds a lot of truth for them. It is for this fact that we should have the admiration and afford them a measure of respect for their beliefs that they hold true.

As for this person, I do have a good deal of respect for a person who is doing their personal best to live by a code of honor, integrity and respectfor self and others. In many ways we all can learn a lesson from this. I do apologize to the ones who do follow a Gorean code of values if I have presumed too much.

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 11:14:10 AM   
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Castration lass, I suggest public castration for the male and for the female a good fucking via a fucking machine loaded with a barbed wire penis.. A proven birth control method I can assure you. 

Now that's just vulgar.



Indeed not. I simply suggested desexing methods which I know from personally witnessing their use are effective, albeit the female is unlikely to live too long but never the less my comment is not vulgar.the couple referred to as Troll and Trollop are guilty of vulgarity as is evident in every post they made.


I don't advocate murdering anyone over a disagreement on a website. And if you seriously sat there and watched something like that without doing anything about it then you have some serious issues. 

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 12:01:40 PM   
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And if you seriously sat there and watched something like that without doing anything about it then you have some serious issues. 


Wake up woman and start realising that the world is not a nice sweet place. Bad things happen to good people and even worse things happen to bad people. besides which, when dealing with terrorists the end justifies the means when it stops innocent people being killed. Regarding the troll and trollup, no I wasn't advocating such extreme measures be used against them, that was just a metaphoric comment. Making the sort of judgements about me sitting on your fat middle class bottom from the safety of your home you made places you right in the same category as the troll and trollop.


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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 1:45:25 PM   
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Not to contradict or question any previous posts but I will say this about the goreans, even though I don't get into their style of bdsm. . .

A. They have huge flying chickens they ride and that is just kinda cool

B. The good Gorean masters I have met have a certain pagentry to their style. They got the ritual and protocol down to a science and like in any other styles, there are good and bad ones. The good ones though, they and their Kajira can be quite elequent to watch. May not be my cup of tea but I see them draw from all sorta different sources for their rituals and the end result can be very impressive. For many slaves the ritual is so important that i can see why they are drawn to Gorean style.

C. Did I mention the huge chickens? BBQs must be very impressive. . .


big flying checkens.... rituals... pagentry...

as you speaking about on line role play?

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 1:56:59 PM   
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No, not vulgar.  Vulgarity is a matter of perspective.. it is relative.  However your suggestion is certainly inhumane, definitely not SSC and I am pretty sure it is illegal in every civilized nation.  But at least it has a certain flair and to those of us with darker sadistic tastes, it is even hot.


There is that SSC again? SSC is very subjective, and not everyone uses it. Also, most states in the US do not allow a person to give another person the right to commit assault and/or battery on them. This would mean that many BDSM activities would in fact be illegal.




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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 2:13:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear
I simply suggested desexing methods which I know from personally witnessing their use are effective


You called the cops? Not calling the cops would be a serious felony right?




watching a woman be flogged and not reporting it would be a felony under your example, yes? it would make you an accessory to a crime of abuse. cops dont need the victims complaint to arrest. once arrested, the victim would have to come out about their lifestyle, and yours, to prevent the conviction, and even that may not help. how would your profession view you then? or the victims?

SSC is great between partners. it dont do jack when held up to a legal light.

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 2:19:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ftmyersartist

Not to contradict or question any previous posts but I will say this about the goreans, even though I don't get into their style of bdsm. . .

A. They have huge flying chickens they ride and that is just kinda cool

B. The good Gorean masters I have met have a certain pagentry to their style. They got the ritual and protocol down to a science and like in any other styles, there are good and bad ones. The good ones though, they and their Kajira can be quite elequent to watch. May not be my cup of tea but I see them draw from all sorta different sources for their rituals and the end result can be very impressive. For many slaves the ritual is so important that i can see why they are drawn to Gorean style.

C. Did I mention the huge chickens? BBQs must be very impressive. . .


big flying checkens.... rituals... pagentry...

as you speaking about on line role play?


The flying chickens part was a joke. . .but the ritual can be very nice in person. It's part of what they enjoy so. . .while it's not right for me, if it works for them, go for it. A lot of the rituals goreans use are drawn from other sources.

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 2:20:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		i am curious about these rituals. can you explain a few?

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 2:25:19 PM   
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the end justifies the means when it stops innocent people being killed. Regarding the troll and trollup, no I wasn't advocating such extreme measures be used against them, that was just a metaphoric comment. Making the sort of judgements about me sitting on your fat middle class bottom


THIS FAT ASS wants to know if you saw this or were part of it...??
To tell about a woman not living long from being fukked with barbed wire...or a man had his nuts cut off..??
wtf???

and that you had WITNESSED it....??
adn that it is justified...????????????????
 
is NOT A METAPHOR>>>

YOU SAW IT AND YOU THINK IT IS OK..

that is really fukked up
I HOPE ALL SUBS SEE THIS...and dont come near you
NOTHING JUSTIFIES WHAT YOU HAVE SAID YOU SAW HAPPEN...
I want to puke
I hope you got councelling after you saw it

GQ.

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 2:33:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: KockRocket


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ORIGINAL: IronBear
I simply suggested desexing methods which I know from personally witnessing their use are effective


You called the cops? Not calling the cops would be a serious felony right?




watching a woman be flogged and not reporting it would be a felony under your example, yes? it would make you an accessory to a crime of abuse. cops dont need the victims complaint to arrest. once arrested, the victim would have to come out about their lifestyle, and yours, to prevent the conviction, and even that may not help. how would your profession view you then? or the victims?

SSC is great between partners. it dont do jack when held up to a legal light.


tazzygirl........maybe it's more appropriate to omit "woman" and just substitute "person"? Seems to me that it would make the context less gender biased and more neutral and avoid any implications of female vs male? Just curious.


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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 2:36:40 PM   
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you are right. i didnt mean to imply it was just men against womenkind of abuse. forgive me for giving that assumption, men can be just as much victims as women.

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 2:47:18 PM   
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And if you seriously sat there and watched something like that without doing anything about it then you have some serious issues. 


Wake up woman and start realising that the world is not a nice sweet place. Bad things happen to good people and even worse things happen to bad people. besides which, when dealing with terrorists the end justifies the means when it stops innocent people being killed. Regarding the troll and trollup, no I wasn't advocating such extreme measures be used against them, that was just a metaphoric comment. Making the sort of judgements about me sitting on your fat middle class bottom from the safety of your home you made places you right in the same category as the troll and trollop.


First off, there was nothing metaphoric about what you said, and saying that I belong in the same category sounds a lot like a threat to me.
You know nothing about me or anything I have experienced. I have known for some time that the world is not a nice sweet place, and I don't tolerate bullies.
By the way, I know full well I'm overweight, and it's been my experience that people who resort to taking cheap shots don't have a leg to stand on.

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/29/2009 11:09:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subliscious
Personally I find the idea that a group of "adults" base their lives on badly written sci-fi hilarious. Shame they don't have the mental capacity to live their lives based on their own morality and code. I mean come on folks do you really need a set of stupid books to show you the way. Grow up and use your brains.

I don't know enough about gor to want to speak out on it one way or another. My question is are you calling these particular books stupid or do you mean that in general studying the morality and philosophy that have already been invented is stupid and one should start from scratch?

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Oh really????  Does this also apply to people who are Scientologists? People who believe in the Koran? The Bible? Or any other religious or spiritual manifest? It's a damn shame that some don't have the maturity nor the common sense to have a little more tolerance for others who mold their lives around a set of morals which may be different from one's own.


Actually I do wish that the religious groups which are currently trying to force their beliefs on the rest of us using politics of violence would grow up and use their brains a little bit more. I have little tolerance for those sorts of morals.

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/30/2009 1:08:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		There could be no good gorean men because their philosophy is flawed. They are only good in the way you see the world.

A philosophy that is so very near to extreme christian, muslim and hinduistic fundamentalists insofar that women are inferior to men is a wrong philosophy in my view of the world.

They are a place for people who have adjustment problems to the way the world have developed. By trying to turn history backwards was never reached anything of value. Look to Iran (Persien) at the moment.

All human beings are equal. Lenin misinterpreted Marx/Engels in a way that suited his fachistoid mind, to create the avantgarde theory in the book "Was tun" written 1905. There he formulated firstly the wrong way part of the communistic movement started to follow. Because he defined members of the party as the elite. Therefore is everybody who belongs not to the party an enemy.

The goreans work with the same idea, some more vocal than others. They all have a strong and sometimes pathological need to belong to a self defined elite. If everybody who do not share your beliefs is your enemy and has to to be killed or converted you are belonging to a group of extremists. In a normal democracy you would be watched by the state. I used kill or converted because they love to throw around war words and metaphors.





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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/30/2009 4:32:45 AM   
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You do realize how ridciulous...oh hell not worth my time.

Thank you Zen for showing me your intelligence.

Be well,

Elizabeth Anne

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/30/2009 5:00:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ignorance is the basis of your post. That our exposure to a lot of Second Life Goreans. If you ever want to try and correct your misinformation, come on over to the Gorean section. Just like a few others, I doubt you will come and discuss in a rational manner. There have been a few though, and good discussions followed.


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The goreans work with the same idea, some more vocal than others. They all have a strong and sometimes pathological need to belong to a self defined elite. If everybody who do not share your beliefs is your enemy and has to to be killed or converted you are belonging to a group of extremists. In a normal democracy you would be watched by the state. I used kill or converted because they love to throw around war words and metaphors.



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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/30/2009 5:04:03 AM   
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There could be no good gorean men because their philosophy is flawed. They are only good in the way you see the world.

A philosophy that is so very near to extreme christian, muslim and hinduistic fundamentalists insofar that women are inferior to men is a wrong philosophy in my view of the world.

They are a place for people who have adjustment problems to the way the world have developed. By trying to turn history backwards was never reached anything of value. Look to Iran (Persien) at the moment.

All human beings are equal. Lenin misinterpreted Marx/Engels in a way that suited his fachistoid mind, to create the avantgarde theory in the book "Was tun" written 1905. There he formulated firstly the wrong way part of the communistic movement started to follow. Because he defined members of the party as the elite. Therefore is everybody who belongs not to the party an enemy.

The goreans work with the same idea, some more vocal than others. They all have a strong and sometimes pathological need to belong to a self defined elite. If everybody who do not share your beliefs is your enemy and has to to be killed or converted you are belonging to a group of extremists. In a normal democracy you would be watched by the state. I used kill or converted because they love to throw around war words and metaphors.





huh? Hell i have known and lived under Gorean either as slave or been Gorean as Free for close to 16 years now and hell i don't even understand what YOU just said. Maybe i have completely missed something in knowing Gorean -- i am glad you in your knowledge of same have decided to explain what Gor is -- i must not have been understanding it correctly all these years. damnit i knew that lil check mark in preschool would catch up with me about adjustment problems.

grins i bet Aristotle and Nietzsche and Plato never thought they would be considered extremist huh?

And please speak for yourself, i am not equal to all human beings. I certain am not and never have wished to be equal to a Man as i am a woman. You of course to choose to try and be equal to whomever you want, some of us are more focused on being unique.

hell and you are sitting here calling Gorean's extremist? I think you need to look in the mirror they tend to indicate people like you as paranoids or is it conspirators. Oh and you are foaming a lil at the lips, you may want to wipe that away.

I will agree wiith one thing you said earlier in another post -- Gor tends to attract because of MISINFORMATION LIKE YOURS BEING SPOUTED AROUND, Men who are insecure and want instant power. THEY SEE YOUR INFORMATION and instead of finding out what GOREAN really is -- the take YOUR word for it and suddenly are pounding their chests claiming to be Gorean so they can APPEAR powerful.

can you do Goreans a huge favor, quit spouting this crap because we do get tired of these kind of people taking your ignorant posts as the Gorean gospel and running around trying to be Gorean based on your ignorant posts of how they should act and be.

angel

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RE: Now... is it just me...? - 6/30/2009 5:27:37 AM   
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You say vulgar, I say "actionable TOS violation that's been reported." (Physical threats against other members is a definte no-no.)

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