Aneirin
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From: Tamaris
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If one wants to learn to draw, you do not need a Nude person to learn from...that would be for the more advanced and serious student and/or practioner.
really? it seems to me drawing the human form is taught in most art classes, both beginning and advanced.
And it is a hell of alot more interesting than drawing a bowl of fruit
Not picking you out , but your bowl of fruit lead to my thought to inject a bit of light humour into this conversation.
A bowl of Fruit, or marbles even
But to be honest, regarding the drawing programmes on tv, it always was from my distant memory during the day,( when I was annoyingly at school. or later work), artist programmes were on, if it were not '' Painting with Cranshaw'', it was something else, though in recent years they have been sparse admittedly, ( perhaps replaced by the plethora of throw away cooking, antiques, or property programmes). If art on tv is back, excellent, I will look out for that programme.
But, to the issue of nudity on tv before the watershed, well, look around you, many art installations, statues and fountains, feature a classical nude, just what is the difference between seeing a stone nude in say a fountain and a life model posing for up and coming artists. It is the human body, that thing we all have, but seem deeply ashamed of, like why? Animals move about in the buff, no one would dream of clothing them, (although it has been done, in the fucked up Victorian period, lap dogs and the like).
Perhaps even if we wer exposed to human nudity in the right context, we might have less problems associated with human nudity, especially female. I say this as thinking along the lines of myself as an um, I was brought up in a pretty stern household, nudity to me, was those magazines we used to find in the woods and by the side of the road, yes, pornographic magazines, were the obvious desirable object in those magazines was the female form engaged in sex acts, my first exposure to female nudity, you can see where I am going here. But, as I was artist inclined, I used to draw, my best subject at school, I wished to draw, and where there was a lack of nudity in the correct context, I sought art history books, but kept my drawings to myself, fearing the parents, although they hunted. Times were I destroyed my art, in a rash of feeling the wrongness of what I did, i.e., hidden, therefore wrong etc.
But, to those I know who are life models for sculptors, painters and photographers, I have asked what they get out of it, and the answer usually is ten quid an hour, no feelings of excitement, nothing, it is just a job, and they are totally comfortable with nudity, it is just matter of fact, an expression and representation of life, what we all are in reality, just like the rest of the animal kingdom, except we need clothes, because we lack fur.
But to those recent life models, the males I know, some of which are passed their best, they admit themselves, they say, on completion of the first job with all it's nerves attached, the feeling after, is freedom.
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