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werurdom -> Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:06:28 PM)

Me and my wife have just got back on to collarme . We were off for a while taking a break and we looked through the profiles and apparently subs,slaves and Dominants have lost thier self described "roles". I see so many profiles from slaves that say I,I,I,I in a very demanding way . This is true with the sub sites that I have seen . I do realize that all is consentual and I wouldnt have it any other way , but, to enter in already demanding is ridiculous . Call it like it is . If you are a sub then you are a sub, same goes for slaves . It seems that these women are choosing "when and where" they will be submissive . And only if all of thier demands have been met. So if you are confused then consult the dictionary on the meaning of the words that you choose . ( i.e. I can see a lot of things hitting the "fan " so to speak.




RedMagic1 -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:10:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: werurdom

I can see a lot of things hitting the "fan " so to speak.

So can I!

... good luck in your search.




heartcream -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:15:52 PM)

Whoa, what the ?




marie2 -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:20:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: werurdom

If you are a sub then you are a sub, same goes for slaves . It seems that these women are choosing "when and where" they will be submissive . And only if all of thier demands have been met. So if you are confused then consult the dictionary on the meaning of the words that you choose .


According to your profile you are seeking "service" and what sounds like a pain slut to knock around, all while clearly stating that you offer no attachment or commitment in return. 

Some might say that you should call yourself a user and not a dom.




GYPZYQUEEN -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:27:35 PM)

OP:
while you were "away"..subs got smart and figured out they weren't piece of shit doormats
 
 
GQ




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:27:41 PM)

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It seems that these women are choosing "when and where" they will be submissive .


It is completely appropriate, realistic, reasonable, and expected that, in the 'exploratory' phase of a relationship, any individual, male -or- female, is free (while xhe is still free) to determine how, when, and where xhe'll submit. Whether or not those parameters work for the dominant individual determines whether that person will be a good submissive match. Now, if xhe chooses to enter into a relationship where that freedom is curtailed, then it is a -choice-, but as long as the person isn't bound to a commitment made, xhe can express hir preferences or expectations just like any other person of free will, regardless of the title describing how xhe prefers to -eventually- relate in authority-exchange relationships or kink activities -with the right, specific individual(s)-.

It is ridiculous, IMO, to expect that a person would yield hir life, hir time, hir body, hir mind, or hir activities to someone that xhe doesn't even know. How is it reasonable to expect that another person, who doesn't even know me or what I might bring to the mix, will bow down to me just because I say so. I am completely enamored of noble houses, but damned if I'm unrealistic enough to expect that just because I -want- to be treated as a noble means that everyone who chooses a submissive mien has to submit to me regardless.

Sheesh.

Dame Calla




MrNicko -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:31:14 PM)

That's a confusing bit at the end




Lockit -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:32:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: werurdom

Me and my wife have just got back on to collarme . We were off for a while taking a break and we looked through the profiles and apparently subs,slaves and Dominants have lost thier self described "roles". I see so many profiles from slaves that say I,I,I,I in a very demanding way . This is true with the sub sites that I have seen . I do realize that all is consentual and I wouldnt have it any other way , but, to enter in already demanding is ridiculous . Call it like it is . If you are a sub then you are a sub, same goes for slaves . It seems that these women are choosing "when and where" they will be submissive . And only if all of thier demands have been met. So if you are confused then consult the dictionary on the meaning of the words that you choose . ( i.e. I can see a lot of things hitting the "fan " so to speak.


Wow... grand re-entrance. With a number of the people claiming to be dominant around here and their taking advantage of the role they think they play above all who are not dominant; I don't blame most one bit.  You have the same choice they have.  You don't like it... click, move on down the profile highway.

No respect should be given or expected until it is earned.  But then... this is coming from a domina... and that may delute my opinion some in someone's eyes... but that's okay, I can deal with that.  I know this might piss you off some... but I think a submissive has a right to find what they want in a dominant and if their dominant finds no problem with it... tough on those who do.




lizi -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:37:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: marie2

[According to your profile you are seeking "service" and what sounds like a pain slut to knock around, all while clearly stating that you offer no attachment or commitment in return. 

Some might say that you should call yourself a user and not a dom.


Ditto.
After reading your profile I also see that the potential pain slut doesn't even get to see a picture of the people they would be submitting to. Sounds pretty ridiculous and there isn't anything in there that's likely to tempt a sane person into responding.
What does the sub/slave get in return for this submission to a couple that they cannot get attached too? Mainly the chance to submit....for nothing. Nada. If there is something you are offering in exchange for the submission it isn't clear in your profile.

There are so many people out there looking for a female sub- the subs can pick and choose who they would like to submit to. Your offer of nothing isn't likely to tempt anyone into submitting to you. A sub can certainly decide why, to who, and when she wants to submit. She's a human being. The cluelessness of your posting is simply astounding.




VelvetCruelty -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:38:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GYPZYQUEEN

OP:
while you were "away"..subs got smart and figured out they weren't piece of shit doormats
 
 
GQ



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werurdom -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:39:20 PM)

accountabillity. that is what He wants and me to. . we had issues in the past with subs with attitudes , coming in as " oh im a sub ... all i want is play ...blah blah " when that was not the fact at all . what He and i have a problem with is having all the "rules" told to us . our profile is set the way it is for a reason . we offer no commitment .. we applaud the profiles that are honest . if you are looking for a mate then say so ... sliding in the back door will only get you a verrrrrrry sore face ( or ass , whichever part of the door that you hit) lol




werurdom -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:41:30 PM)

i will assume that you are not interested then.....life will go on




Lockit -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:42:22 PM)

ROFL!  I hate to quote Dr Phil god damn it... but... how's that working for ya?

And to think I was about to go to bed and miss this laugh! lol




werurdom -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:48:28 PM)

ok ....He is not saying that we offer nothing ...geesh to you .. what we are trying to avoid is someone thinking that they are a "permanent " fixture . we are not poly . nor is He looking to replace me . we are taking noone to raise




islandgyrl -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:51:28 PM)

Ah ha! I love living in a free country. A world where even subs/slaves have choices. Imagine that! 
 
Island




Missokyst -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 10:57:13 PM)

Was going to post a thought out response .. but god this is too ludicrous. 
lol good luck, might try lowes for one of them doormats.
Kyst




werurdom -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 11:06:45 PM)

ok ... are we the only ones who value honesty ? how honest is it to committ to a "relationship " when you dont want one ? and how hurtfull is it the submissive when they think that it will go farther than it will . how did it become wrong to just put out there that we are not looking for long term ? when did it become "wrong" to just be honest . i have seen women literally ruined emotionaly due to fake Doms . promissing this and that ect ... we simply are placing our cards on the table ... everyone has a match .. and by the way in the real world we all have jobs , kids , families ...ect ...we dont live on a compound where we can house subs , take on long term committments . i would think that this site , the people on here , would appriciate honesty .....hmmmm




Missokyst -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 11:09:13 PM)

being honest is not the issue.  Each of us has needs to be met.. and gosh.. I THINK this means that EVEN subs have a right to choose who they submit too! lol but I may be wrong, I wouldn't bet on it though.
Kyst




werurdom -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 11:10:08 PM)

4TH AMENDMENT HARD AT WORK




werurdom -> RE: Back and f####### confused (7/11/2009 11:12:19 PM)

HONESTY IS THE F########### KEY YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK GOODBYE




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