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Throat Tattoo - 7/11/2009 11:45:50 PM   
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I want to get my throat tattooed.  I already have all sides of my neck done in a very tasteful manner.  It is a tribute to family. . . .

I want to get my throat done.  Prior to walking out the door an old boss said, "I hope you want to go down in flames"  Oddly I respect this boss still.  He offered me a lot and taught me a lot both personally & professionally.

I am thinking about taking his logo changing it up a little.  It will be 3 - 4 lines with a tribal theme.  The lines are arrows pointing in different directions representing the different path we can go in life.  The center arrow pointing, up the direction we desire.  Possibly an arrow pointing down.  The piece will be outlined in flames - we all walk through fire to be successful.

I do not care so much if you  like the concept, still comment though..  However, I do not believe throat tattoos are too socially acceptable regardless of how artistic and meaningful.  Why is that? Any thoughts?  I am confident my tattoos do not impact my ability to do the job better than you.  I have never had issue with any of my other neck tattoos.
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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/11/2009 11:55:31 PM   
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I think tattoos are becoming more and more acceptable. Everyone seems to have them these days. I don't have any, and I've never wanted one. But I notice everyone below the age of 50 has them now. I have actually dated women that asked, "so what tats do you have?" I shit you not. When I say, "I don't have any tattoos, I don't like them." I am looked upon as some weird pariah. Congratulations to all of y'all, you have turned us non-tatted people into the rebels. Oh lord, I love it.

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 12:01:16 AM   
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1.)  they tell a lot of people you've been in prison and whether or not you have will not change that reaction.  anyone who has worked on a parole board will verify this (I stress "worked on" not some armchair quarterback on the parole-board issue)

2.) as someone whom has DESIGNED tatts/body-ink for people, the SEMIOTIC STATEMENT and MEMETIC statement of your tatt will cause subconscious reactions to you apart from point #1 when your tatt in question is visible.  A Maori style Tatt will not carry the same baggage as some lame-ass "skull-enshrouded-in-flames-done-in-Penitentiary-ballpoint-ghetto-ass-bullshit" piece of crap you'll pay twice as much to have removed several years later and then that will leave BAD "evidence" that will NOT be attractive to potential partners or even fuck-buddies.

I am not slamming you.

I am asking you to be CAREFUL with a CULTURALLY VALUABLE section of your Skin Real Estate.

good luck with this but take a month and do LOTS of window shopping RE designs.

and also certain shades of skin mean certain hues of ink will look like CRAP, sorry.  Some will merely look dingy, or go to black.  bear that in mind.

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 12:02:50 AM   
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I do not have a lot 60-65?  The neck tribute always seems to draw the most attention though.  I believe people accept my arms but sometimes view the neck as uhhh?  Tacky?  What the hell is the difference.

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 12:05:17 AM   
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1.)  they tell a lot of people you've been in prison and whether or not you have will not change that reaction.  anyone who has worked on a parole board will verify this (I stress "worked on" not some armchair quarterback on the parole-board issue)

2.) as someone whom has DESIGNED tatts/body-ink for people, the SEMIOTIC STATEMENT and MEMETIC statement of your tatt will cause subconscious reactions to you apart from point #1 when your tatt in question is visible.  A Maori style Tatt will not carry the same baggage as some lame-ass "skull-enshrouded-in-flames-done-in-Penitentiary-ballpoint-ghetto-ass-bullshit" piece of crap you'll pay twice as much to have removed several years later and then that will leave BAD "evidence" that will NOT be attractive to potential partners or even fuck-buddies.

I am not slamming you.

I am asking you to be CAREFUL with a CULTURALLY VALUABLE section of your Skin Real Estate.

good luck with this but take a month and do LOTS of window shopping RE designs.

and also certain shades of skin mean certain hues of ink will look like CRAP, sorry.  Some will merely look dingy, or go to black.  bear that in mind.


No shit brother?  A well thought out and intelligent reply?

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 12:07:07 AM   
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the diff is "crim" or not crim.

a lateral/horizontal collar of thorns in cool-blue shade is VERY Pictish "Celtic" and viewed as "Pagan".

thre other stuff is viewed as a bad sequence on CSI.

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 8:08:30 AM   
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I guess it all depends on what kind of career you have. I have a handful of tats and I have a professional whitecollar job. Some of my tats are very visible. I have to keep my hair down at work because I have one behind my ear that can be seen when I put my hair up. I have arm tats so I have to wear sleeves or jackets that cover them. I have others that need to be covered at all times as well.

I'm also aware that in certain situations in life such as family gatherings, meeting parents of friends or mates, I'll want to cover them because that's what is socially polite to do.

Tats are still not as acceptable as you might think. Sure they are more than they used to be years ago but you have to decide for yourself what kind of life you have where you will be able to get away with them or not and how willing you are to concede to social mores.

A throat tat is going to be extremely visible and you won't be able to cover it unless you're wearing a turtleneck. Are you able to accept that you may be blackballed by people in life because of it?

Anyway..just things to think about before you decide to take the plunge.

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 8:25:04 AM   
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i can recall my employer interviewing for a well paying position. I read a few of the resumes and one stood out...the applicant was perfect and had all the right qualifications, and then some.

I was a bit surprised that he was not hired and when i asked about him i was told he had several tattoos peeking out of his shirt collar.

Not fair...but that is the way it is.


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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 8:25:07 AM   
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I think the difficulty of accepting throat tattoos is perhaps because they are literally right in the other person's face. When you look at anyone, the first thing you generally glance at is their face. As human being that is what we do from infancy onward. The first thing an infant focuses on is their parent's face.

If you have tattoos on other parts of your body someone else can kind of ignore them when they converse with you, if it's right on the part that they are conversing with it's hard to do and whatever ideas that person has about tattoos is part of every conversation with you. It's an unconcious process but it's happening regardless.

People should not discriminate about tattoos (or race or gender) but they do and it's a fact of life. Personally I like tattoos and don't have any kind of problem with them but lots of people feel differently and as with any type of going outside the norm the person doing it can pay a price.

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 9:58:47 AM   
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       A throat tattoo is right there with facial tattoos, or on the hands.  I make an automatic assumption that a person displaying such ink is either very committed to values or a lifestyle very different from my own, has a serious criminal background, or, is dumber than a pile of hedge trimmings.  Two of those are going to be a problem for me.

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 10:27:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I guess it all depends on what kind of career you have. I have a handful of tats and I have a professional whitecollar job. Some of my tats are very visible. I have to keep my hair down at work because I have one behind my ear that can be seen when I put my hair up. I have arm tats so I have to wear sleeves or jackets that cover them. I have others that need to be covered at all times as well.

I'm also aware that in certain situations in life such as family gatherings, meeting parents of friends or mates, I'll want to cover them because that's what is socially polite to do.

Tats are still not as acceptable as you might think. Sure they are more than they used to be years ago but you have to decide for yourself what kind of life you have where you will be able to get away with them or not and how willing you are to concede to social mores.

A throat tat is going to be extremely visible and you won't be able to cover it unless you're wearing a turtleneck. Are you able to accept that you may be blackballed by people in life because of it?

Anyway..just things to think about before you decide to take the plunge.


No, I am not able to accept I might be blackballed.  I think it is silly that this might be a reality.   However, being grounded in reality despite my own personal opinion this is why me throat is still nekid.

Oh my

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 12:25:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

I think tattoos are becoming more and more acceptable. Everyone seems to have them these days. I don't have any, and I've never wanted one. But I notice everyone below the age of 50 has them now. I have actually dated women that asked, "so what tats do you have?" I shit you not. When I say, "I don't have any tattoos, I don't like them." I am looked upon as some weird pariah. Congratulations to all of y'all, you have turned us non-tatted people into the rebels. Oh lord, I love it.


The 18 year old grand daughter came over with the two great grandchildren.  She was wearing shorts and there were symbols all over her legs.  Being worldly I asked where she had gotten the transfers for decorating her legs.  She laughed that they were permanent.  Shortly thereafter we checked the great grandchildren over to make sure they did not have their names and address tattooed on them together with a map of how to return them if they were found wandering around.  That tattooed  little bastard she lives with has a warrant out for his arrest and it is a big temptation to figuratively tattoo his ass.

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 7:22:03 PM   
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Gonna agree with HPH...


and Lorr.. PLEASE tell me you were joking in that last post?


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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 8:58:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Esinn

No, I am not able to accept I might be blackballed.  I think it is silly that this might be a reality.   However, being grounded in reality despite my own personal opinion this is why me throat is still nekid.

Oh my



It really isn't a matter of you "accepting" that you might be blackballed. It is a reality. Historically, neck tattos have been on convicts and gang members. The tattoo shop where I got mine and took my son for his first will not allow employees to have tats above the collar line. The owner feels that it may scare customers and present a "look" that he doesn't want for his shop. One of my closest friends has a tat on his neck in memory of his father. As others have said, it depends on what you do as to whether or not it can have a serious affect on your life. You aren't going to change people's opinions about tattoos. Most people "worth" knowing though may change their mind after they get to know you.

The bottom line is that there are some things that are still considered "socially unacceptable." If you really didn't care about what other people might think your neck would not still be "nekkid"

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 9:29:08 PM   
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Since you already have your neck tattooed, I don't think you're risking much by having your throat tattooed.

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 10:30:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Esinn

I want to get my throat tattooed.  I already have all sides of my neck done in a very tasteful manner.  It is a tribute to family. . . .

I want to get my throat done.  Prior to walking out the door an old boss said, "I hope you want to go down in flames"  Oddly I respect this boss still.  He offered me a lot and taught me a lot both personally & professionally.



Snipped for Brevity.

I identify with the reasons and message you want to convey with your tattoo. Also, based on other responses, it's obvious you're a smart, philosophical, independent thinker and a realist. Put a bunch of tattoos on a smart realistic independent thinker and you have a mouthy punk.

Sadly, I could not look past a persons neck tattoos. It shows an anti-establishment attitude that I, as an employer, decide not to work with. As "Boss" I want people who have a respect for authority for authority's sake. I don't want to "win over my team" like it was a gang I was joining. A neck tattoo, more specifically a throat tattoo screams dissension to me.

If I was your boss, Esinn, and for whatever reasons you hated work and wanted to quit... I'd expect you to say "MAN, FUCK YOU!" and walk out if I've pissed you off enough. I don't know you. You may be a cool headed person. But your tattoos say to me "I don't take shit from anyone."

Some fields are more sensitive to ink than others. I spent a summer selling yachts... You would not have been hired. You could have talked to Pope into buying a subscription to Hustler, and they still wouldn't hire you. Solely on appearance. Law, real estate, medicine (including mental health professionals), banking are examples of sensitive fields. Construction, plumbing/electrical, assembly, transportation are less sensitive. There's a good living in both categories, so its not like a throat tattoo will make you starve to death.

But say goodbye to being Chief Justice Esinn.

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 10:55:12 PM   
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"No shit brother?  A well thought out and intelligent reply? "

and this is exactly why your not-well-thought-out (and cliched) and (not so) intelligent crap RE the Christian thread in the other section ended up with people treating you like a total CHUMP.

Go ahead.  get your ENTIRE neck copvered with barbed wire warapping around bulletts with the nemweal "911" all of the place.

It'll just be a speed sign/road sign of the read you anyway and save anyone a lot f bother from the outset.

Tell eminem I said hi.

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 11:34:47 PM   
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"No shit brother?  A well thought out and intelligent reply? "

and this is exactly why your not-well-thought-out (and cliched) and (not so) intelligent crap RE the Christian thread in the other section ended up with people treating you like a total CHUMP.

Go ahead.  get your ENTIRE neck copvered with barbed wire warapping around bulletts with the nemweal "911" all of the place.

It'll just be a speed sign/road sign of the read you anyway and save anyone a lot f bother from the outset.

Tell eminem I said hi.


You are like the wind that blows out my lighter when I try to light up outside.  The good news is I can control you

Bye :)

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/12/2009 11:42:18 PM   
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oh yeah.

dude, you can't even control your TV remote.

PLEASE, get the tatt.

then if you're SUCH the man, stick it up as your userpic so we can see what great taste you have in ink and what great connections in body-artists you've got.

That's assuming you can tear yourself away from the x-box for that long.

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RE: Throat Tattoo - 7/13/2009 12:01:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper


quote:

ORIGINAL: Esinn

I want to get my throat tattooed.  I already have all sides of my neck done in a very tasteful manner.  It is a tribute to family. . . .

I want to get my throat done.  Prior to walking out the door an old boss said, "I hope you want to go down in flames"  Oddly I respect this boss still.  He offered me a lot and taught me a lot both personally & professionally.



Snipped for Brevity.

I identify with the reasons and message you want to convey with your tattoo. Also, based on other responses, it's obvious you're a smart, philosophical, independent thinker and a realist. Put a bunch of tattoos on a smart realistic independent thinker and you have a mouthy punk.

Sadly, I could not look past a persons neck tattoos. It shows an anti-establishment attitude that I, as an employer, decide not to work with. As "Boss" I want people who have a respect for authority for authority's sake. I don't want to "win over my team" like it was a gang I was joining. A neck tattoo, more specifically a throat tattoo screams dissension to me.

If I was your boss, Esinn, and for whatever reasons you hated work and wanted to quit... I'd expect you to say "MAN, FUCK YOU!" and walk out if I've pissed you off enough. I don't know you. You may be a cool headed person. But your tattoos say to me "I don't take shit from anyone."

Some fields are more sensitive to ink than others. I spent a summer selling yachts... You would not have been hired. You could have talked to Pope into buying a subscription to Hustler, and they still wouldn't hire you. Solely on appearance. Law, real estate, medicine (including mental health professionals), banking are examples of sensitive fields. Construction, plumbing/electrical, assembly, transportation are less sensitive. There's a good living in both categories, so its not like a throat tattoo will make you starve to death.

But say goodbye to being Chief Justice Esinn.
(Not Snipped for clarity)


I am a competent and confident business consultant whose role focuses upon but is not limited to human capitol.  I am a top 5% performer - I am the logical choice throat tattooed or not :D.  I have been involved with the Allied Health and within other verticals you described.  The market trend seems to be favoring IT/Allied Health so it is where I will stay.

I have not sailed a yacht but I know  when I worked for ______ (a smaller company) as a direct result of my actions  the owner was able to purchase what most would consider a yacht (I saw the pictures). I left the company before I was invited to set sail in Tampa.

Although still respected his 'words' and actions are what give me more drive, desire and motivation to be more successful than him. Arrrr!  Ahoy matey man dem cannons!  This is personal.

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