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But the underlying point is that older Men chasing younger women is not a simple preference similar to "I like blondes and you like brunettes"; there is a powerful biological purpose behind it.
I suspect we are probably coming from very different philosophical worldviews here. I would almost entirely reject biological explanations for behaviour in favour of a sociological perspective. I mention that because I think we can understand each other's outlooks, but it does mean that we're not ever going to see these issues from the same angle.
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But there is a tension, isn't there between our celebration of the raw untamed sexual desire, and our need for community, family, committment and emotional bonding?
Only because of societal taboos. If we accept that sexual desire is something to be celebrated, the tension disappears.
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Certainly some May-December romances are loving, committed and ideal; and tolerance is our goal. But, in My view,what should not be tolerated is our societies ruthless fixation on youth, specifically female youth, innocence and naivete. This leads to the bizarre sight of Britney Spears trying desperately to be both innocent virgin and worldly whore. No wonder the poor girl had a nervous breakdown.
I'd broadly agree. But I think that a counterfixation that takes against youth as I think you do if you imply that youth is directly linked to innocence and naivete, the problem is compounded. If we assign absolute traits to any non self-selecting group, whether based on race, sex, age or whatever, it ends up demonising those who don't have those traits, without necessarily that being our aim. (Although I am somewhat contradictory here, because I do think we need a definition of "adulthood" for the sake of society and the young. But that's a contradiction I merely accept). We need to look at the issue of what is and isn't valued. And the virgin/whore dichotomy does need attacking. But I think you're attacking a symptom, not a cause.
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There is a sense in the alternative sex and BDSM/ Gor societies that we can strip away all of the boundaries and guidelines of behavior, that we are in a ethical wilderness, guided only by whatever urges our gentials send us. This is what accounts for the daily barrage of emails women get from slavering males howling for them to show their tits.
It has nothing to do with BDSM/Gor/Alternative societies I think. It's the Internet, and specifically the anonmyity. Power withour responsibility. The prerogative of the harlot and the eunuch.
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It ends up demeaning both Men and women. If we strip away the external boundaries that society erects, I would like to think that we create new ones that help us to be better than we are.
Oh, absolutely. (Although I would note that sometimes it is necessary to tear down before you have space to build). To live outside the law, you must be honest, as the old saying goes. My issue is more that I think to dismiss relationships based on the age of the people involved is merely to repeat old mistakes. If we're going to make mistakes, at least let them be ours rather than other peoples. I suspect we are getting into metaphysical issues well outside this threads remit, however.
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