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I think she made a mistake: she wanted to say 6 billion.

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ORIGINAL: estah

Greetings DomKen,

                              The idea of YEC gots its name later but the original concept is older the Ussher and after it saw a deline in the 18th century the revival that it has experienced since the start of the 20th century is thanks to the rise in Fundamentalist Christianity...which mainly takes evidence from the works of Seventh Day Adventists such as White, Price and Morris.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism
http://www.conservapedia.com/Young_earth_creationism
http://www.nwcreation.net/ageyoung.html
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Young_earth_creationism
On this a a large majority of YEC sites do not accredit any person with their belief but base it on evidence found in the bible. There is a few references to Ussher (as well as a number of other people) but he is never directly or even indirectly accredited with the concept (which existed even in the time of Bebe, who was born in 672/673 and died in 735). Considering that the idea of YEC existed before the time of Ussher it is hard to give a man credit for something the was around before his birth. Although I do admit that the timeline of Ussher was in the KJV of the bible, you also need to note this a bible used only by the Anglican church, and a large majority of Anglicans do not believe in YEC . The timeline is used in the version of the bible due to the fact that Ussher was in high standing with King James. You also need to note it was only included in the annotated editions of the KJV.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher_chronology

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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I think she made a mistake: she wanted to say 6 billion.

I doubt it was a mistake for the following reasons:

1) She said it twice.
2) 6000 is the number most often put forth for the age of the earth by Young Earth Creationists
3) The world is much older than 6 billion years, it makes no sense for her to have grabbed the number 6 billion out of the air for her speech. Nobody, scientist or creationist, claims the world is 6 billion years old.

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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I think she made a mistake: she wanted to say 6 billion.

I doubt it was a mistake for the following reasons:

1) She said it twice.
2) 6000 is the number most often put forth for the age of the earth by Young Earth Creationists
3) The world is much older than 6 billion years, it makes no sense for her to have grabbed the number 6 billion out of the air for her speech. Nobody, scientist or creationist, claims the world is 6 billion years old.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: estah

The 6000 years as the age of the earth comes from the Jewish belief, atleast from their timeline from the making of the Earth until today. It is not something calculated by a bishop or even started by the christian. Have a look at the Hebrew calender and you would be able to find this out. The age said by the Jews was calculated even before the Christian belief existed. I do acknowledge that you changed your opinion later, but you did claim that the idea of the Earth being 6000 years old was based on the Ussher timeline.

estah

No. It really is based on the work of Ussher.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher_chronology

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The Earth isn't older than 6 billion years. It's actually about 4.5 billion. The universe is much older at roughly 14 billion.

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ORIGINAL: estah

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: estah

The 6000 years as the age of the earth comes from the Jewish belief, atleast from their timeline from the making of the Earth until today. It is not something calculated by a bishop or even started by the christian. Have a look at the Hebrew calender and you would be able to find this out. The age said by the Jews was calculated even before the Christian belief existed. I do acknowledge that you changed your opinion later, but you did claim that the idea of the Earth being 6000 years old was based on the Ussher timeline.

estah

No. It really is based on the work of Ussher.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher_chronology

This states otherwise, but if you took the time to read a number of the major and even minor fundamentalist christian websites, or even a deeper study into the YEC movement you will find very few references to Ussher.

estah

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The world is much older than 6 billion years,

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Just because people believe something different to us does not make them wrong and us right

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ORIGINAL: estah

DomKen are you referring to the American group called YCE?

estah

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DomKen I am going what I have read on a number of websites for the various groups and my personal interaction with various members of these and other groups. Some of who I do call friend.

Just because people believe something different to us does not make them wrong and us right, the only being who has the right to judge such a thing is HaShem (God, Allah or however you wish to call the divine being).