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bearly2001 -> profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 4:18:11 AM)

ever notice that some members start a skeleton or incomplete profile here, but then indicate they will take the time to fill it out later?? it makes me smile a bit, lol.. one wonders when they will find the 15 minutes or 30 minutes so it takes to fill out a bit about their likes, dislikes and goals? i would hope that if they are just being circumspect about revealing themselves or merely trying to dissuade others from contacting them, that they would just say so or just hide their profiles. and if they are so busy a half hours introspection into their goals and dreams must be deferred, then they should know they are just too busy, lol! i am also wondering if there are other reasons for not showing more of themselves.. is it a matter of courage or shyness...or something else? our profiles are our surrogates prior to contact.. i often wonder how others approach presenting themselves here at collarme. does their profile indicate a measure of their commitment and why do so many remain so sparse? profiles in courage for some.. and subterfuge by others.

admittedly, i took somewhat longer than many to complete mine since i believe that my profile will serve as my initial contact with many of you. therefore. it is crucial to present myself as clearly and succinctly as possible to delineate my passions and dislikes from those of the madding crowd. i feel that it is imperative that i differentiate myself from the teeming hordes as quickly as possible. my profile and journal gives me the opportunity to establish my authenticity and experience as a genuine online Dom and to raise my voice above the din...

i also believe it is good practice to regularly update your profile or add to your journal in order to match the changes in goals and situations that may occur over time. as an online-only dom who will never have the opportunity to meet my submissives face-to-face, i find that the more effort i put into my writings.. the more opportunity my dom "voice" will be heard and resonate within my targeted audience.. the female submissive. if she "hears" my voice contained both within the text and between the lines, she may feel the irresistable pull of the dominant within me.... so i am careful to construct my words carefully, as if i were meeting her face to face. my task is to try to bridge the gap between us through words sent out into the vast void that is cyberspace.

upon reflection, i also see some problems that may apply to submissives more than others in offering a thoroughly fleshed out profile. some submissives find it devilishly difficult to speak of themselves and their wishes. their innate desire to subordinate their wishes to those of a dominant my impose a shyness or hesitancy that causes them to understate or to "whisper" their goals and . they also may feel it is an immodesty that is unbecoming of their submissive nature to extol or proclaim their desirable traits and virtues. i also can appreciate the fear that a submissive may have of drawing the type of vicious criticism and petulant comments that false doms, wannabes and arrogant a-holes often evince in raging emails. i am sure that we all have heard submissives write of the criticisms and rants they receive if the words and themes within their profiles somehow fall outside of some idiot's parameters of orthodoxy or protocol.

just thought i would share my observations and ask.. what do you think when you see a scant or incomplete profile or one that remains an unfulfilled promise for months.. is it fear, sloth or shallowness? whaddya think?

rick the bear[




bearly2001 -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 4:20:59 AM)

the title to my topic contains an error.. it should read "...too busy..." i guess i was "too" busy to proof read more closely, LOL!




RedMagic1 -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 4:34:05 AM)

Profiles are overrated.  99% of whether a woman will meet you in real life depends on your email and in-phone interaction.  Besides, what do I care if someone writes a sentence or a novel?  You are overthinking this.




Aileen1968 -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 5:05:42 AM)

My profile used to say "Blah blah blah"
I had no problem making contacts.
Personally....I think if you have a picture up and people like what they see, it doesn't matter one bit what your profile says.




bearly2001 -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 5:31:01 AM)

@redmagic1... i take your point. i do believe a pic is very important. however, since i am an online only dom, i rely on text and cyber contacts such as emails, im's, webcam/voice and phone.. i use profiles as a screening tool to decide if others interest me. if all i have is a pic and a few scant words, i won't waste my time. i use my profile to let others see a bit of who i am.. and i use their profiles to winnow out those who don't show me something of who they are. i am an older man who husbands his time carefully. i no longer wish to spend hours, days and weeks, only to find out that i share little with my contact.

@aileen1968... i am glad a pic provides what you need to know to initiate and receive contacts. your comment that what a profile says doesn't matter to you is unexpected. that is so alien to me that it makes me smile at how we each find our paths a different way. a pic tells me very little that is useful to me, but their ability to communicate tells me tons. i do agree that i will occasionally not contact a person because their pic doesn't click with me. but, i also know that i am undoubtedly allowing myself to miss contact with some superior minds and sensuality by my bit of shallowness. i have had some wonderful experiences with some submissives who did not have a profile pic. whether or not their pic would have caused me to pass them by i can only guess... but i am richer for having met them.




LadyKatija -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 5:46:55 AM)

Its like anything in life what you put into something is what you get out of it...so when i see that they have not bothered it shows me their level of investment in themselves and the lifestyle, and I move on as fast as I can.




Whenready -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 6:26:23 AM)

Too busy to respond to this thread...

It's a balance. If the profile is stark - what points of interest are there to hook or spark interest? (Yes I know some people don't actually want more attention than they already have). If it's overfull, I have lazy days. I'll most likely skim a long profile, looking for eliminating key phrases - if I come across "no men" or "no marrieds/attached" I might read on if well written but any contact interest evaporates at that point. Similarly the likes/loves/hates CAN be helpful - but it's not gospel.

Then if there is something that catches my eye - a quick hello might follow, to see where if anywhere it leads..




RedMagic1 -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 7:06:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyKatija
when i see that they have not bothered it shows me their level of investment in themselves and the lifestyle

Seriously?  You judge someone's level of investment in the BDSM "lifestyle" by how well the person fills out an online profile?  You and the online dom should get together.




LadyPact -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 7:12:51 AM)

For probably the first six months I was here, I had a profile that read that I would fill it out properly later.  It didn't matter a darn bit.  Like every other female on this site, regardless of which side of the kneel, I had plenty of attention.  The people who didn't contact Me because I didn't have anything on it weren't a loss.  Trust Me.  The female subs that you won't waste your time on due to an incomplete profile aren't going to miss you for lack of attention.

As to the heart of your question, I didn't fill the profile out for a couple of reasons.  The first was that My purpose here was for the discussion topics.  The second was that people got to know Me well enough through the message boards, which is actually My preference.  It gives folks a chance to hear My opinions on various things, rather than just what I think of Myself.

Oh, and I still end up with quite a number of emails a day that prove one method is better than the other.




CreativeDominant -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 7:17:36 AM)

Actually, I do just that...go to my profile once in awhile and add things.  But for the most part, much of what I feel is already there.  If it interests someone, great.  If not, then it does not.  I have a tendency to believe that there are some factors that are spelled out in a few words that either keeps people away or brings interest.  e.g....The simple phrases "willing to relocate" vs. "not willing to relocate" can be all that someone needs to see before they move on to the next profile or not.

Ironically, my profile seems to draw the greatest number of viewers and, occasionally, commenters from out of state.  I rarely get a comment from someone right here in my state.




HeavansKeeper -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 7:27:16 AM)

Bear,

I consider my profile to be little more than a friendly reminder of the obvious: I can be contacted here. Looking over it, it does seem a bit beggy, and the shopping list of kinks probably gives off the wrong impression.

But neither of those matter because my intention here is, basically, to exist, listen, and speak. Since I'm not looking to add others to my relationship, I haven't baited my hook.

If I did add "I'll add more later" to my profile, then this comment would be a possible justification.




bearly2001 -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 7:37:12 AM)

@heavenskeeper... that makes a lot of sense. i guess some keep their profiles hidden for the same reasons. thanks for your input

and to the others who have replied and who will reply in the future.. thanks for your viewpoints, honesty, and even your snarkiness for those who need an outlet for it, lol.




OsideGirl -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 7:39:58 AM)

My profile has 5 words in it. I have no intention of filling it out further. Those 5 words are "Just here for the forums."

I get emails from people that want to chat and see what happens.

I get emails that say "I love your profile". (Really? Which of those 5 words did you like the best?)

I get emails that say, "I want to....<insert kinky action here> you."

I got an emailed marriage proposal the other day.

People ignore what's in my profile when it's 5 words. Why bother doing more, if no one is going to read it?




sappatoti -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 7:44:14 AM)

My single word profile serves my purposes the best thus far. I used to have a short story length profile that, based upon the reactions from those that sent messages to me, confused the heck out of everyone. Since I replaced that with my "Why?" profile, the messages I have received are more along the lines of what I was looking for.

Like many others here, I maintain the profile on "the other side" mostly as a point of reference for those who frequent these discussion boards.




oceanwinds -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 7:55:36 AM)

There is little on my profile and I did that on purpose. If i was using this site for searching, I still would not put a lot on it. First of all, I want to get to know the person first, and I would prefer they are active in reading the forums. They can also check my posts too to get to know me. I prefer if they want to get to know me to put some effort in it. Nice thing about this though is I am not looking, so it really doesn't matter one way or another.




UglyTruth -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 8:22:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
(Really? Which of those 5 words did you like the best?)



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cadenas -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 8:30:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
People ignore what's in my profile when it's 5 words. Why bother doing more, if no one is going to read it?


Maybe for those who DON'T contact you with such ridiculous things? When you get mails from 200 people who haven't read your profile, that also means that there are probably 10000 members who have seen your profile and HAVEN'T sent you mail - and many of them may well have read your profile.




OsideGirl -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 8:37:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cadenas

quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
People ignore what's in my profile when it's 5 words. Why bother doing more, if no one is going to read it?


Maybe for those who DON'T contact you with such ridiculous things? When you get mails from 200 people who haven't read your profile, that also means that there are probably 10000 members who have seen your profile and HAVEN'T sent you mail - and many of them may well have read your profile.

If they're not contacting me, then those 5 words have achieved what I was looking for. I'm not looking for a partner, I'm not looking to have chat friends 3000 miles away. I have a profile here so that I have access to the forums, chatting to the people I've gotten to know on the forums, and my real life friends can find me.

Adding more into my profile, just leads to more emails (speaking from experience)


quote:

ORIGINAL: UglyTruth

quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
(Really? Which of those 5 words did you like the best?)



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Smart ass! I snorted coffee, dammit!




MisterP61 -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 9:26:54 AM)

Allrighty then.... time for My words of __________ (fill in the blank)

My profile says what I want it to say: "These would be just words to most.  If you want to know Me, then do so by interacting with Me"  To me it is all I will do.  Anyone can write such wonderful things about themselves and "oh my, doesn't my shit smell like roses" type things.  Point being that if one truly wishes to know Me.... then they will in fact talk, chat or email.... I do prefer real life talk by the way.  Now before anyone gets their panties in a wad, I am not saying that all profiles are fake, in fact I would bet that most are very close to exact.  I am just saying for Me I am not going to toot My own horn.... I would rather a person make their own decision on whether or not they would like to know Me better.

MrP




GYPZYQUEEN -> RE: profile in courage.. or are you to busy to fill out your profile? (7/14/2009 9:46:07 AM)

WORDS are very.very important to me as a writer ...
 
HOW do I know I want to get to know you..??
HOW?? from a pic?..no pic?..the interests section..?
your user name?
that tells nothing..


If someone cannot take the time to write a good profile I don't bother...with them.

IF I see a skeleton profile I think the person is lazy...does not want to bother..doesn't give a shit.. is scared...thinks they are the shit...or wants to be mysterious( maybe I'm wrong .......maybe I'm right)

The worst I've seen are:


What to put here..you tell me?
 
Male..50
 
later
 
YOU know what I want
 
want no limit slut
 
 
GQ




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