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MasterSlaveLA -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 10:09:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark


 
Aww... what, did I stomp all over your ego?  Pooooooor baaaaaaaaaby.  Lose the debate, and go into some self-convincing psychosis.  Pssst... there are "fakes" out there... TONS of them... one even exemplified in this thread; so maybe she's a fake-magnet too?!!  But hey... you keep doin' the Ostrich thing... I'm sure it helps you sleep at night.  LOL
 




RCdc -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 10:14:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

 
You were better off with your Ostrich Defense...
 

 

...I don't kick people when they are already down and out.
 


What the hell are talking about... are you in the Welfare line or something and want sympathy?!!  The above has zero to do with anything posted.
 
 


I have tolerated you so far because I find you amusing, but when it comes to bad attitudes and insinuating that people on welfare are a certain way or start mocking other minorities to big themselves up, then newsflash.  Aint going to happen.  What's next, are you going to bring other minorities into a discussion to try and make yourself look great?  Whose on the agenda next - feminists?  Special needs?
 
All you have shown sofar is that you cannot hold a civil dissussion without name calling or poking holes in other peoples perceptions with ridicule, using buzz words and being everything you seem to despise and list as traits of a fake.
 
the.dark.
(whohasanawfullylongmemoryofpeoplewhostealthephotographsofotherpeople)




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 10:15:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop



LOL... I noticed you couldn't defend your position, just as the Ostrich couldn't.  Lose the debate and feign a scenario that doesn't exist.  Clearly you're unarmed for a battle of wits.  But if it makes you feel better... by all means, enjoy your wittle delusions.





RCdc -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 10:17:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark


 
Aww... what, did I stomp all over your ego?  Pooooooor baaaaaaaaaby.  Lose the debate, and go into some self-convincing psychosis.  Pssst... there are "fakes" out there... TONS of them... one even exemplified in this thread; so maybe she's a fake-magnet too?!!  But hey... you keep doin' the Ostrich thing... I'm sure it helps you sleep at night.  LOL
 



Then pray tell.  What makes you not a fake.  I am trying to keep to the discussion and you are incredibly good at avoiding peoples questions.
 
the.dark.




SimplyMichael -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 10:17:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

All you have shown sofar is that you cannot hold a civil dissussion without name calling or poking holes in other peoples perceptions with ridicule, using buzz words and being everything you seem to despise and list as traits of a fake.



Yeah, I got bored too.  And if you and I can agree on something...it must be true!  LOL




GreedyTop -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 10:19:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop



LOL... I noticed you couldn't defend your position, just as the Ostrich couldn't.  Lose the debate and feign a scenario that doesn't exist.  Clearly you're unarmed for a battle of wits.  But if it makes you feel better... by all means, enjoy your wittle delusions.



I wish like hell you'd learn to use the quote feature properly.




ModeratorEleven -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 10:31:16 AM)

Ok kids, settle down please.  Lose the personal attacks or run along.

XI




Arpig -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 10:34:44 AM)

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There is no default...

I see...
1) Their approach is invalid because it is not the default of all slaves.
2) There is no default of all slaves.

therefore...all approachs are invalid. We are all fakes!!![sm=cheerleader.gif]

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They learn a few buzz words and think all subs/slaves are the same
Now you are a mind reader as well as being the final arbiter of what is and what isn't  real Twue BDSM, amazing! Maybe, just maybe, its not so much that they think all subs/slaves are the same, but they want a sub/slave that is that way.

You have effectively declared anybody who does not see and approach BDSM the way you do to be fake. On what basis do you pontificate? I would like to see your credentials please.

You are being dishonest in your debate here
First you claim they are Castle Realm losers and use an attitude that is pretty much the opposite of that presented on the site, and when called on your misrepresentation, you then change your mind and deride the website for a different reason.

Then you state that BDSM is not encapsulated in the physical. When confronted on this by the fact that for very many people it is in fact "encapsulated" by the physical, you suddenly switch to saying it is not 100% physical, that there is a mental aspect to the acts involved, something that in no way affects the encapsulation of BDSM in the physical (or mental, or emotional for that matter).

Then you declared other views of what a slave is to be invalid because it is not the default for all slaves. Amazingly enough, when this was questioned suddenly what you really meant is that these "net-Doms"  assume that their view is the default, therefore their view is invalid.

In another thread you claimed 99% of the Doms are fakes, and when confronted with the absurdity of that claim you suddenly switched to saying its just an expression.

Clearly your words cannot be taken at face value. You misrepresent what you say as soon as somebody points out the flaws in what you have said. That is, at the very least, dishonest.






sweetsub1957 -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 10:58:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Can you not see that there is no BDSM rule book. There is no BDSM club, or secret handshake, and there is no one recipe for how to do what it is that we do. In fact we don't even all do the same things.


Arpig, You are SO right!  The nice thing about WIITWD is that it is what we make it.  We don't all do it the same.  If it works for us, it works.  Each couple or poly situation is unique and does things their way.

Oh, and btw, I've read this entire thread so far & I have one thing to say.  MasterSlaveLA needs a set of seven popsicle sticks so she can stir up a whole week's worth of shit at once.  Is she a troll or something?




RedMagic1 -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 11:12:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA
LOL... Idiots!!!

I don't spend a lot of time thinking about the idiocy of others, much less laughing about it.  I am in competition with myself to be a better me than I was yesterday.  Sometimes I am successful, and other times I'm not.  I have found, though, that this attitude attracts people who take themselves seriously.  You might try it yourself.  It's a way to find friends who believe in keeping things real.




RCdc -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 11:20:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

All you have shown sofar is that you cannot hold a civil dissussion without name calling or poking holes in other peoples perceptions with ridicule, using buzz words and being everything you seem to despise and list as traits of a fake.



Yeah, I got bored too.  And if you and I can agree on something...it must be true!  LOL



Somebody must have put something in the water.  Isn't this the second thread this month that You and I have actually agreed on something?[;)]
 
the.dark.




RCdc -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 11:25:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig
Clearly your words cannot be taken at face value. You misrepresent what you say as soon as somebody points out the flaws in what you have said. That is, at the very least, dishonest.


Does that mean we can call said person a fake if fakeness=dishonesty and lying?
Pretty please?  Oh MrArpig - I do a good line in begging... and Master has given me permission...[:D][sm=bowdown.gif](although I am minus the red hair for the time being).
 
the.dark.




Arpig -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 11:32:56 AM)

Well logic would seem to point to that conclusion [;)]




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 11:48:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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There is no default...

I see...
1) Their approach is invalid because it is not the default of all slaves.
2) There is no default of all slaves.



GEEZ... you still don't get it.  They approach all subs/slaves THE SAME thinking there is a default.  It's always the "On your knees, bitch" thing because they think ALL subs/slaves are wired like that because they don't know any better... they're fakes putting on an act.

You state the exact same thing I'm stating and can't even see it.





Arpig -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 11:51:36 AM)

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They approach all subs/slaves THE SAME thinking there is a default. It's always the "On your knees, bitch" thing because they think ALL subs/slaves are wired like that because they don't know any better... they're fakes putting on an act.

Or maybe they are just looking for a sub/slave that is wired that way. Maybe they are genuine, 100% real, and they want a girl who reactes positively to the "on your knees bitch" approach. Just because you do not like their version of BDSM does not make them fake, it makes them incompatible.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 11:55:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark



Please provide:

1.  The exact quote where you allege I stated "kicking someone when they're down".

2.  The exact qoute where you allege I "mocked minorities". 

This should be interesting.





Missokyst -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:00:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark



Please provide:

1.  The exact quote where you allege I stated "kicking someone when they're down".

2.  The exact qoute where you allege I "mocked minorities". 

This should be interesting.






SinzMaster -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:00:44 PM)

I have in time been accused of not being a real Dom and at times being seen as the Real deal no matter what the approach.
As I'm never rude or forceful in a simple greeting up front.

The same  person accused me of being not a real Dom and later said I was the real deal.
As a rule I'm not judgmental at all of a total stranger. Neither should anyone else be from my viewpoint.

I need to locate the person that  decided  the standard agreement on what a Dom is and is not on cm.

Truly I have a lot to learn from this individual. Thanks  for playing.





oceanwinds -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:01:11 PM)

I need to state that I havent gone through all the posts here on this thread. I have had only 3 years experience in BDSM. Some characteristics of me could echoe from others she is a fake. I do want to put this topic in a catagory that I do have a lot of knowledge in experience in. I have been for over 30 years a practicing witch. A lot of people who been in it for a long time, tend to understand more about the growth process, and are less likely to ramble words of fake this or that. It seems to be those with little time in any lifestyle who scream out loud that others are fakes.

Many call pro dommes fakes, though I am not, I am a professional Psychic. People see me as a fake just as they see the pro dommees, because we request money(energy change ) for our services. This thinkiing is all about blocks of what is real and what is not. Seen it here too often on cm.

Many people tend to not be able to grasp a concept so they automatically scream fake. If people take into consideration, that there are no two people who are going to measure the same amount of desires or experiences, I think their constant name calling would end...well perhaps. I also know human behavior it is it so much easier to call another a fake then to look at their own errors. In my book, if someone tells me someone is  a fake, I take it with a grain- of- salt. After all who is to say this person knows much? As stated before those who been around for a long time, do not find the need to bash people. Those who been in it a relatively short amount of time are pumping up their ego. Ego has a purpose and it is not all bad, but it clues others that this person might be blowing it out their ear.




LadyDesi -> RE: regarding fake doms and wanna bes. (7/17/2009 12:07:00 PM)

*waves to the crowd, newbie here so ... * from reading this fascinating thread .. I have come to a couple of conclusions ... A) all professed Dominants are fake because none have learned the fine art of domming a cat  B) only the truely psychotic and/or criminal are fakes.... Dom or sub/slave...C) there are those that will make someone pull their hair out in every community .. so in conclusion .. be careful of the "B"s cuz well no one wants a profile on CSI.... tolerance and education helps sanity with the "C"s and if anyone learns how to "A" teach me *waves hand fanatically*
The bottom line is MOST take our choice of lifestyle very very seriously ...MOST could benefit from teaching a "wannabe" or at least attempting to .. if nothing else to remember what it was like the first time you donned a collar or picked up a whip.




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