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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/26/2009 7:23:18 PM

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This is a bit like whining about minicab and taxi drivers just because nobody is prepared to give you a lift in their car.

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 12:06:05 AM

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The last to replies to my thread i find interesting, so what your saying is you belive with pro dommes it just about the money a buissness for them,there you could be right.But many pro dommes say they life style and go to munchies etc and go there just to find buisnness contacts so in a way they might not be genuine at all.
I think pro dommes are subs the more you think about it the more it makes sensce.I myself have never been or ever would be with a pro domme.Nowt wrong with there job but thats what it is a job and indded as someone already stated they are subs to there boss the sub paying them.

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 12:47:02 AM

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i think you're a little silly. some subs cant find a way to intergrate the lifestyle into their day to day lives. for whatever reason, be it a vanilla relationship, or employment issues, or whatever. these people need dommes too. pro dommes aren't neccessarily money grubbers. some subs aren't even interested in tryin to live the life 24/7. these ppl need pro-dommes. besides, pros receive training, they know what they are doing. they work out of reputable dungeons that are safe and clean. they are discreet. what's not to love

another thing to keep in mind. do you have any idea what kinda overhead a pro-domme has? all that equipment aint cheap. and a good dom, who knows what she's doing when she peirces a man's cock has to take first aid courses and sanitation courses. how about ropes and suspesion, got any clue how badly a dom could hurt you if they dont kno the pressure points. stop hating

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 1:18:55 AM

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i think you're a little silly. some subs cant find a way to intergrate the lifestyle into their day to day lives. for whatever reason, be it a vanilla relationship, or employment issues, or whatever. these people need dommes too. pro dommes aren't neccessarily money grubbers. some subs aren't even interested in tryin to live the life 24/7. these ppl need pro-dommes. besides, pros receive training, they know what they are doing. they work out of reputable dungeons that are safe and clean. they are discreet. what's not to love

another thing to keep in mind. do you have any idea what kinda overhead a pro-domme has? all that equipment aint cheap. and a good dom, who knows what she's doing when she peirces a man's cock has to take first aid courses and sanitation courses. how about ropes and suspesion, got any clue how badly a dom could hurt you if they dont kno the pressure points. stop hating

First of all please have a bit of respect,im not your sub this is a chat room for peoples views opions etc.So please have a bit of common manners and not be so rude.
Your point about how much it costs etc, as i say i have no problem with pro dommes this thread was not about that anyway.It was about are pro dommes in fact sub and if you get paid for a service your a sub to that person,this is a fact.Its a total differant thing being genuine and being fake.If you get paid or pay a dom then your into just the kicks a hour or 2 a week.
You dont need suspension and expensive iteams to be a sub this the sexual kicks side,theres so much more to being a sub than that.You now see how a domme is a sub your just being paid for a service..

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 1:50:27 AM

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 2:18:31 AM

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Huh. Insulting whole swathes of people in order to look interesting is not interesting. Oh. & negativity is good mulch for breeding more negativity.

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 2:39:48 AM

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I was talking to a pro Domme on here, and do any of you on this site belive like i have now come to belive that domme who ask for tribute or for nice things are in fact subs.Now dont get me wrong i have no problem with pro dommes/blackmail dommes money dommes etc.They provide a service and are needed.
When a sub tributes a domme then the sub is getting a service he is telling the domme i want you to do this and i will give you this,so the sub in fact is being dominant by telling the domme what he wants.The Domme is now the sub and bending to the wishes of the sub..And yet some of these dommes then say real life and live the life as a domme..Now maybe im thick but how are they,this were my problem is you carnt but a domme its not real.Subs who pay dommes are not subs at all.Again nothing wrong with this,just people need to be more honest in profiles and say the truth it makes it easier then.As many of you no so many fakes messers fools liers con artists on this site.Pro dommes should have a special section then this way they can look for subs who want to domme them with money and leave geniune people alone.I myself would not enterain the idea of the domme i belonged to have other people pay her money she would then only be a sub in my eyes..Its a domme i seek not a sub or money motivated person..

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 2:57:33 AM

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But many pro dommes say they life style and go to munchies

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so in a way they might not be genuine at all.

I have a feeling those two statements may not be entirely compatible.

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I think pro dommes are subs the more you think about it the more it makes sensce.

I suspect that depends on the tools you have to work with.

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I myself have never been or ever would be with a pro domme.

Which is fair enough. Neither have I. The difference is that I don't decide how they should be defined based entirely on speculation and wild flights of fancy. Well, that and the fact I actually consider some pro dommes friends as opposed to having formed a picture of them in my head, seemingly unburdened by the impurity of knowing any.

I certainly would not presume to speak for the dommes on here. But if I was a non pro domme, I suspect I'd think your attitude to pro dommes would rule you out of consideration for me. That would be my position if you were a female submissive. Still, possibly that's just me and this thread has actually heavily increased your desirability.

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 3:58:49 AM

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I certainly would not presume to speak for the dommes on here. But if I was a non pro domme, I suspect I'd think your attitude to pro dommes would rule you out of consideration for me. That would be my position if you were a female submissive. Still, possibly that's just me and this thread has actually heavily increased your desirability.

Too be honest some dommes have agreed with me on ths well or non pro dommes but then again you wouldnt no if they was men pretending to be women,as you no many fools and messers.
II do belive that pro dommes are subs this is my opion and only my opion,dont mean im right but dont mean im wrong either.
If you have pro domme friends do you have these sessions as they are known as if so does money exchange hands,if so only you no the truth to my next question.
Are you paying for something that you want???
We all have our views some have sent some nasty pm to me but hey im only expressing what i belive.

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 4:13:34 AM

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II do belive that pro dommes are subs this is my opion and only my opion,dont mean im right but dont mean im wrong either.

There's opinions and opinions. You honestly don't seem to me to have any real basis for your theory that pro dommes are actually subs. So it's like saying that my opinion is that my leg is made entirely of peanut butter. It might not definitely mean I'm wrong, but that's the way to bet.

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If you have pro domme friends do you have these sessions as they are known as if so does money exchange hands,if so only you no the truth to my next question.

No, to both questions. These are platonic friends of mine. Well, ok, one of them sometimes steals cigs off me.

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Are you paying for something that you want???

See above. This is how I know they aren't subs. I know them on a friendship level, we don't play together.

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We all have our views some have sent some nasty pm to me but hey im only expressing what i belive.

Ok. But why do you think what you believe is offensive to those people?

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 4:30:27 AM

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Im not saying your wrong or right only you have the answer to that.
No im not being offensive in anyway at all well dont see how i am,my thread was about are pro dommes subs really,and to this i think im right.I just dont see how if you pay for a women to do what you want how this makes you a sub it makes you the domme,As i said there is nothing wrong with this it does provide a service for people with kinky sexual likes.But and a big but this is not real it becomes a role reverse thing,now my friend we carnt all have the same view or opion on this otherwise there be no chat rooms lol...

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 4:32:44 AM

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I wonder how many Pro dommes you would actually say that to. Saying it on a message board is one thing, you can insult anyone without retaliation beyond a flaming or laughter...do you have the cohones to ask a prodomme to her face? you might get a better idea if you did that.
Altho they will probably just peer at you and snort and walk away, (best case scenario).

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 4:34:46 AM

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The last to replies to my thread i find interesting, so what your saying is you belive with pro dommes it just about the money a buissness for them,there you could be right.
Anyone who opens a business opens it to make money. Why would a pro be any different?

But many pro dommes say they life style and go to munchies etc and go there just to find buisnness contacts so in a way they might not be genuine at all.
Many pros do go to munches just to visit with their friends. They also help run events in the local community and help teach others. And yes they are very genuine.

I think pro dommes are subs the more you think about it the more it makes sensce.
You thinking it's true does not make it so.

I myself have never been or ever would be with a pro domme.
I am sure they will be ok with that. Personally I have played with several and they were awesome. Oh and no I wasn't a client, I was just a friend.

Nowt wrong with there job but thats what it is a job and indded as someone already stated they are subs to there boss the sub paying them.
Finding someone to agree with you on cm does not make you right. It just means there are at least 2 people out there who have no clue what being a pro really means.

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 4:56:37 AM

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Im not saying your wrong or right only you have the answer to that.

Right. Thanks for asking.

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No im not being offensive in anyway at all well dont see how i am,my thread was about are pro dommes subs really

I know you're not trying to be offensive. But, if you were wrong, can you see why some people might be offended without that being what you're trying to do? Because if you look at the posts, some of the people taking most exception to your post are actually those who know some pro dommes socially. Are you seriously telling us that you know our friends better than we do?

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I just dont see how if you pay for a women to do what you want how this makes you a sub it makes you the domme

If you think that a pro domme is paid to "do what you want", that shows that you know nothing about it.

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 5:17:24 AM

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One commonality among all Dommes is the need to eat.

A few might be independently wealthy, but the others have to work. Every single one of them will be in the position of doing what her manager tells them to do. It does not make her a sub.

There seems to be a fantasy about a Dom/me who has no manager, has no clients, just does whatever they damn well please, and draws a paycheck for it. For example, one of the things that I found silly about Mickey Rourke's character was that he had a huge office with no papers and no computer, just a large desk with a phone that he barked orders from when he felt like it.

The fantasy is not true.

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 5:36:32 AM

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are cops subs for providing a service to the community? am i a dom if i am a dick to someone in the service industry?

i see most jobs as nothing to do with peoples personality or oriantation. i think a pro domme is a personality type job, im not sure someone who identifies as a lifestyle sub could really even do that job. i have never met a pro domme let alone had a session with one so i find my opinions on the matter a little lacking. i do find the idea that all pro dommes are subs a little juvanile, its the same as any occupation if its not "all pro dommes are doms" you will have subs or doms or w/e in it like anything else.

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 5:46:21 AM

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Some Pro Dommes are Dommes. Some Pro Dommes are Switches. Sure some Pro Dommes are submissives. Even dare i say it some Pro Dommes are vanilla girls out to make a buck. LOL...

You need to seperate TOP/BOTTOM from relationship orientation of D/s and even personality typing of Dominant and submissive.

Activitity orientation, relationship orientation and personality orientations... people screw these things up with one another every day.

Who cares, if you want to the services of the experience, just fork out tribute and enjoy the experience, it's not like you are entering into a 24/7 relationship with them.

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 7:01:57 AM

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i think you're a little silly. some subs cant find a way to intergrate the lifestyle into their day to day lives. for whatever reason, be it a vanilla relationship, or employment issues, or whatever. these people need dommes too. pro dommes aren't neccessarily money grubbers. some subs aren't even interested in tryin to live the life 24/7. these ppl need pro-dommes. besides, pros receive training, they know what they are doing. they work out of reputable dungeons that are safe and clean. they are discreet. what's not to love

another thing to keep in mind. do you have any idea what kinda overhead a pro-domme has? all that equipment aint cheap. and a good dom, who knows what she's doing when she peirces a man's cock has to take first aid courses and sanitation courses. how about ropes and suspesion, got any clue how badly a dom could hurt you if they dont kno the pressure points. stop hating

Whilst in some ways I agree with you I really don't believe its relevant. Why should pro Dommes have to fight there corner? A car mechanic doesn't have to explain to us about his outgoing costs before he charges us for repairing my car. Perhaps he's not a real car mechanic if he charges us!!!
As someone who used to pro Domme, I did it because I could, because I was good at it and because it gave me a salary. I could of filled my dungeon with all the required gear, hired my receptionist, paid my rent and done all the workshops and still been a crap Mistress that really didn't deserve a penny return.
As far as the Op all I can say is, he's made up his mind and that's cool but I don't see any point in debating him.

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 7:15:17 AM

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All interesting replies.
But how many have been truely honest how many people who have replied to this post have much information or photos up.
I think some are not being as honest as they like as they might have friends or people they like or want to see who are pro dommes, maybe im wrong.
Some are out for the fast buck no dout about that.
I didnt start this thread about the mioney thing its was about are pro dommes subs.
some one said about a car mecanic whic is true why should a pro domme explain herself she should not,Pay her and recive a sevice like a car being fixed if your not happy dont go again ask for your money back so this enforces my point a pro domme is a sub to.Nothing wrong with this fact but its not really for me to be dominated by a sub,and to be honesty its not the kinky games for me,its mental im as strong minded man so she has to mentaly strong.
But never the less all very intersting

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RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs - 7/27/2009 7:29:48 AM

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But how many have been truely honest how many people who have replied to this post have much information or photos up.

and what does THAT have to do with anything?

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