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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Public libraries are free, and they're stocked with recipe books, nutrition books for every level of reader - even videos and picture books.

Many libraries even have bookmobiles, they practically deliver.

At what point are people responsible for themselves? For their own education and well being. 

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet
I thought you got your serving of cream from other sources Holly

As for education, there's another one of those big links in the chain I forgot earlier. It is yet another areas that could be improved to help the situation without resorting to this stupidity. Educational classes are rarely, if ever, paid for by insurance, employers, or anyone except individuals. Those who can't afford to pay to learn this information will continue with unwittingly poor eating habits. Further, why on earth even let this crap hit the shelves in the first place? The food industry can do better. There just is no incentive for them to do so.

lovingpet

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

. Want to talk about personal responsibility? How about the government stop handing out money to failed banks and businesses? Then there might be some money available for such things as.... gasp.... health care!

lovingpet

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly
why would they do research if they do not see they are doing anything wrong to begin with?
The doctors, having heard his obese patient complaining about their inability to lose weight despite "good" eating habits, are going to run high cost tests looking for the cause, which is reaffirming to the patient that it really is a medical issue.

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If its an education issue, why would an über Liberal entity such as the LA Times urge government to enact punishing taxes everyone's snack foods...

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

I do not buy into the lack of education being the problem.  The "food pyramid" is EVERYWHERE.  I will say that lack of understanding on just what "a serving" means contributes.  I also think that this is partly a consequence of the Great Depression.

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If its an education issue, why would an über Liberal entity such as the LA Times urge government to enact punishing taxes everyone's snack foods...

well hell...maybe grocery stores can install scales next to the cash registers? If you are not deemed height/weight proportionate, you are taxed.

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

duh. i was being sarcastic 

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

duh. i was being sarcastic 

I'm being dead serious. It's time to start trimming the fat. This is a great opportunity for the government to tap into it's fat reserves for funding all the wonderful, beneficial, productive, and working spending programs.

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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If its an education issue, why would an über Liberal entity such as the LA Times urge government to enact punishing taxes everyone's snack foods...

well hell...maybe grocery stores can install scales next to the cash registers? If you are not deemed height/weight proportionate, you are taxed.

Another GREAT idea!

Let's expand upon it. Remember the places where kids were charged based upon their weight? Let's have a scale in every restaurant, in CA the nanny bureaucrats already required that restaurants to publish an exact calorie and fat content of every item on the menu. You weigh in and for every pound over the official US government sanctioned appropriated weight/height standard you're taxed that percentage. Five pounds over what 'nanny' says you pay a 5% surcharge; 150 pounds - 150% surcharge.

FANFUCKENTASTIC! I think we closed the budget deficit!

Oh, and I'd be paying at least a 25% surcharge myself - however putting this plan out serves my goal of illustrating how much we've accepted government intrusion in our lives. This has the two essential cornerstones of any nanny program; "good intent" and "think about the children!". Who can argue with the benefit?

Isn't this what many here want your government to do? Tell you what to do, what to drive, what to eat, what you drink; and enforce their will by taxing the hell out of anyone who doesn't follow their 'one-true-way'. Those who are on-board for taxing SUVs, cigarettes, alcohol; should, in these times, be clamoring for another source of funding your own particular special interest program.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


Boy, "Hillary Clinton" has a nice ring to it now, doesn't it?

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why stop at a scale at the checkout? tell you what...the next time you go to your favorite restaurant the waitress will calculate the fat/caloric intake of the heaping serving of spaghetti, 2 slices of garlic bread, etc. Then if you have the balls to attempt to order dessert you will not only be turned down, but a school marm type will come out and whack you accross the knuckles with a ruler.

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

They revised the food pyramid a few years back and basically turned it upside down. Is it right side up now? I have no idea. If that's the best they are going to offer in the education department, then we are all screwed! LOL

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

I do not buy into the lack of education being the problem.  The "food pyramid" is EVERYWHERE. I will say that lack of understanding on just what "a serving" means contributes.agree!  I also think that this is partly a consequence of the Great Depression.

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ORIGINAL: sirshollywhy stop at a scale at the checkout? tell you what...the next time you go to your favorite restaurant the waitress will calculate the fat/caloric intake of the heaping serving of spaghetti, 2 slices of garlic bread, etc. Then if you have the balls to attempt to order dessert you will not only be turned down, but a school marm type will come out and whack you accross the knuckles with a ruler.

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I do not buy into the lack of education being the problem.  The "food pyramid" is EVERYWHERE. I actually think thats part of the problem. The food pyramid is created and funded by the meat and dairy industry and not necessarily right for all people I will say that lack of understanding on just what "a serving" means contributes.agree!  I also think that this is partly a consequence of the Great Depression.

Like most people Ive given this some thought

My take on all this is...(I know, you cant wait for my little nugget of foodie wisdom can you?)

In Australian indigenous culture, as you grow up your taught about the bush and the food sources around you.
eg: "this" can only be eaten, after preparation with soaking to take out the bitterness.
This is the season for "that" and is good eating.
"These" berries look like food but they are poison. Dont eat or touch.
Dont eat kangaroo liver you will die etc

However the mainstream Australian culture teaches that if its in the food aisles its all good eating.
What should really happen (in the parallel universe run by Seababy.) is the adults in the family should be taking their children hunting and gathering down the local 7-11 and saying "Yes this is good eating, and identifying other stuff and saying, yeah it looks like food but that's poison.(Twinkies, other various hidden corn syrup evil)

Just because someone wants to make a buck selling you something they label as "good tucker" doesn't make it so.

And furthermore...why cant I use my slash key or apostrophe when replying? :( (Maccas comes to mind)

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