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Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 8:09:40 AM   
LillyoftheVally


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Status: offline 		So a pretty prolific thread has got me thinking about what we as submissive admire in dominants. Do we hold physical strength in high regard.

Lets give an example, you are walking with your dominant and some drunk comes up to pick a fight, would you have more admiration for a dominant who walked away or had a fight.

In a fight would winning make a difference to your attitude to them?

Do you think resolving an issue with violence is a trait associated with dominance?

(please please PLEASE only answer this question, I normally don't mind derails that much but in this case I think that it is better to stick to this)

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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 8:22:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's an interesting question and it depends on the drunk i think.  If said drunk has started something that requires self defense, you bet yer butt i'd want my dominant to step up.  But the moment the threat has passed i think the violence should stop.  Someone that keeps beating the tar out of someone else just because he can sort of worries me.

Personally i like the slightly menacing look in a man.  You know that stare that makes you think with 90% certainty he has no problem stepping on someone that invades his or his property's personal space with ill intent. 

Winning...hmm...ok so he's stopped the drunk and we can run.  That's just intelligent.  I don't think self defense is about winning it's about getting away if you can.  Most times anyways.  Not every situation requires violence, so no i don't think that should be associated with dominance.  For me anyways, to each his own.

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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 8:24:49 AM   
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Do you think resolving an issue with violence is a trait associated with dominance?
Heavens no...any bozo can throw a punch. Granted if there is a physical threat sometimes it is necessary but more admirable is the self control to rise above it and walk away.

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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 8:44:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally

So a pretty prolific thread has got me thinking about what we as submissive admire in dominants. Do we hold physical strength in high regard.

Lets give an example, you are walking with your dominant and some drunk comes up to pick a fight, would you have more admiration for a dominant who walked away or had a fight.

In a fight would winning make a difference to your attitude to them?

Do you think resolving an issue with violence is a trait associated with dominance?

(please please PLEASE only answer this question, I normally don't mind derails that much but in this case I think that it is better to stick to this)


Funny that you use the example of a drunk, Lilly. Lumus and I were walking home from a friend's place one night and we were accosted by a drunk. The guy came up behind us, started to say something when Daddy turned around, looked him right in the eye and just said "What?" Guy took a few stumbling steps back and muttered "nothing" and took off like a bat out of hell. He was never hit, never yelled at, wasn't pushed, just looked at and asked "What?"

It's not about violence but there's a certain AIR, a manner, a strength and power. Anyone can pick a fight, some can actually win. But to diffuse a potential dangerous situation with a look and a single word - THAT'S true dominance to me. I still can't believe how that night made me feel safe, protected and loved.


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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 8:47:14 AM   
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Many of the men who petition to be my boys say they admire that I am big and strong..
they feel safe..protected...and love the idea that I can carry them have my way..
and am physically gifted with tremendous upper body strength.

RESOLVING AN ISSUE with violence can be a trait of lack of impulse control.
I do not have that.I can control my self.
I can also handle myself in unsafe siutations with physical prowness if need be and I have...to the tune of all teeth being knocked from said man...
I also have POWER OF PRESENCE which goes a lot further
and has allowed me to walk safely in very dangerous siutations.

GQ

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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 8:49:35 AM   
LillyoftheVally


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ORIGINAL: Rainfire

But to diffuse a potential dangerous situation with a look and a single word - THAT'S true dominance to me. I still can't believe how that night made me feel safe, protected and loved.




Is not at all jealous honest :P

I actually agree with you Ms Rain, your example is the kind of response that would make me turn to putty.

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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 9:15:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally

Lets give an example, you are walking with your dominant and some drunk comes up to pick a fight, would you have more admiration for a dominant who walked away or had a fight.



The one who kicks ass, though, I would admire the dominant who shoves his sub toward the drunk saying "If you can get past her, I'll think about finishing you off, after", the most.

Seriously though, there is a time and place for everything, I want the one who is good at recognizing when that is.

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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 9:18:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I abhor real violence. I think that the best display of strength is knowing what he can do to the other guy yet having the inner strength and intellect not to.


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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 10:07:15 AM   
olena


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Status: offline 		I expect my man to be able and want to protect me. If that means a physical confrontation or running away right behind me it really does not matter. I do think we respond to a man with physical strength, I just think that is a desired option and not a must have.


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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 10:31:04 AM   
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It's not about violence but there's a certain AIR, a manner, a strength and power. Anyone can pick a fight, some can actually win. But to diffuse a potential dangerous situation with a look and a single word - THAT'S true dominance to me. I still can't believe how that night made me feel safe, protected and loved.


This.


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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 10:38:35 AM   
curiousINct


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Status: offline 		  Lets give an example, you are walking with your dominant and some drunk comes up to pick a fight, would you have more admiration for a dominant who walked away or had a fight.

**it entirely depends on the specific instance, but to me fighting is always a last resort.

In a fight would winning make a difference to your attitude to them?

**no

Do you think resolving an issue with violence is a trait associated with dominance?

**quite the opposite.

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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 10:44:22 AM   
aranisiA


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Status: offline 		The Dominant who would garner most respect from me is the one who with a look/a few words was able to dissolve the situation. As someone else said, anyone can pick a fight, and quite a few people can even win them - including the high school bullies I detested as a child and pity now. 

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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 10:44:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rainfire

It's not about violence but there's a certain AIR, a manner, a strength and power. Anyone can pick a fight, some can actually win. But to diffuse a potential dangerous situation with a look and a single word - THAT'S true dominance to me. I still can't believe how that night made me feel safe, protected and loved.



This is it for me too. I know without any doubt whatsoever that my partner would step up to a physical confrontation if it became necessary. The key is, however, that he doesn't have to. There aren't many that would cross him. Turns me into a puddle of goo.

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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 11:43:26 AM   
leadership527


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Status: offline 		So a pretty prolific thread has got me thinking about what we as submissive admire in dominants. Do we hold physical strength in high regard?
Me: No
Carol: No, but she does like it that I'm taller than her.

Lets give an example, you are walking with your dominant and some drunk comes up to pick a fight, would you have more admiration for a dominant who walked away or had a fight.
Me: Walked away SAFELY. The need to resort to physical violence is already a failure.
Carol: Walked away SAFELY. She doesn't like to see conflict in general.

In a fight would winning make a difference to your attitude to them?
Me: No
Carol: No

Do you think resolving an issue with violence is a trait associated with dominance?
Me: quite the opposite
Carol: No


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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 12:32:36 PM   
IrishMist


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Lets give an example, you are walking with your dominant and some drunk comes up to pick a fight, would you have more admiration for a dominant who walked away or had a fight.

Well, since I would probably knock the drunk upside the head myself...the man I was with had better be prepared to fight...if he walks away, he walks away by himself.
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Do you think resolving an issue with violence is a trait associated with dominance?

No

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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 12:34:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GYPZYQUEEN

OP:
Many of the men who petition to be my boys say they admire that I am big and strong..
they feel safe..protected...and love the idea that I can carry them have my way..
and am physically gifted with tremendous upper body strength.

RESOLVING AN ISSUE with violence can be a trait of lack of impulse control.
I do not have that.I can control my self.
I can also handle myself in unsafe siutations with physical prowness if need be and I have...to the tune of all teeth being knocked from said man...
I also have POWER OF PRESENCE which goes a lot further
and has allowed me to walk safely in very dangerous siutations.

GQ


This response wins.
I have been most impressed and therefore putty when Sir has sidestepped or defused violent situations.
That being said, your second question:
"Do you think resolving an issue with violence is a trait associated with dominance?"
More often than not, in Western Society, yes.  Individuals, organizations and countries often established Dominance through violence. i think we teeter on the edge of evolving past this notion and i hope we manage to do so.

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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 12:56:54 PM   
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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 1:18:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lets give an example, you are walking with your dominant and some drunk comes up to pick a fight, would you have more admiration for a dominant who walked away or had a fight.

i'd have more respect for a man who could handle the issue wisely and confidently.

In a fight would winning make a difference to your attitude to them?

that would depend entirely on the circumstances of the fight. is it man to man, fist to fist, no weapons? if so, then i would expect my Master to come out on top, definitely. if my Master has fists only while the offender has a machete or a handgun? different story entirely.

Do you think resolving an issue with violence is a trait associated with dominance?

no.

to answer the first question, of holding physical strength in high regard...yes i do. however the follow-up questions unfortunately only centered around fighting, which is a very limited display of physical strength.

it is very important to me that the Man i have given myself to have a good deal of physical strength and stamina. i need to feel safe walking down the most dangerous of streets with him, i need to feel that he has the ability to intimidate others with his carriage and appearance, i need to know that he can easily overpower me at will, i need to know that if the house catches on fire he can throw me over his shoulder and run me to safety. these are all basics of being a Man in my eyes, not of being a Dominant. i could never be with a man who (outside of a birth or medical defect) i saw as physically lesser than myself.



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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 1:56:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Violence is rarely necessary, because even the most clouded of brains start to think maybe they should harass someone else, when you start looking at them like a hungry wolf who's just spotted a lame rabbit

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RE: Ohh you are so big and strong - 7/29/2009 2:24:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		My male sub is a big guy, 6 foot 4 and 258 lbs. He is very strong phyiscally, I have no doubt whatsoever he is up to phyiscally handling a drunk should the need arise. However I would respect him more if he would not throw that punch because to me that shows a lack of self control. I expect him to show self control and to be able to think his way out of a situation rather than resorting to brute violence.

I always have and always will appreciate intelligence over brutish behavior.

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