cadenas -> RE: Why not get the Single Payer Health Care System? (8/1/2009 11:10:06 PM)
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy And hurt the millions of people who work for them and the 10s of millions of people invested in them. It seems that their "socialized medicine" doesn't exactly hurt other countries in this field. One of the leading manufacturer of MRI machines is Siemens, a German company. Germany invented the whole field of antibiotics and Aspirin. The HIV virus was discovered by a Frenchman. The heart transplant came out of South Africa. Most of the computerization in the medical field also came out of Germany (I was involved with one such project myself as a consultant). Germany is also leading in cancer research. quote:
ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy So we've destroyed the high end travel industry, socialized banking and the car companies, why not move on and fuck up a another chunk of the economy. Huh? How about a Caribbean cruise STARTING AT $23,938 on the Seabourne Odyssey? Or a transatlantic crossing on the Queen Mary 2 or Queen Elizabeth 2? A $250/day cruise with Silversea Cruises - and that is after a 50% price cut due to the economy. And that really IS a luxury, unlike health care. Socialized banking? Really? Where can I sign up? Frankly I dont see the link between socialized medicine and medical discovery/technology in an era when the technology itself isnt socialized and is still profit driven. It is the imposition of price controls that I was talking about. Exactly my point. Research proceeds just fine regardless of the health insurance system. quote:
ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Antibiotics and aspirin? Socialized medicine? ROFL. First of all Germany doesnt have socialized medicine in a strict sense, it has competition between providers. THANK YOU! I'm glad you said that. I just don't understand why you are opposed to Obama's plan then; the German system is very similar to the one Obama proposed, with the public option. quote:
ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy And if you honestly posted that thinking that antibiotics and asprin were invented after any form of universal care in Germany youre just a clown You are totally wrong about MRI. It was invented by an American born and trained doctor, Raymond Damadian, and his company FONAR was the first to produce them. Mandatory health insurance introduced in Germany: 1883. Penicillin discovered: 1928. And don't try to spin things again - I said "leading manufacturer". Siemens is to this day leading in MRI technology. quote:
ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Nice prices...whats the occupancy rate? Apparently pretty good; these companies have been in business for a long time. quote:
ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy What about the occupancy in Las Vegas and financial troubles of MGM, Vegas? You are kidding, right? You asked about high-end travel! Vegas has always been the destination of the $1.99 buffet. High-end hotels in Vegas were a business gamble, if you forgive the pun, that didn't pan out.
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