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What is wrong with asking for advice?

Perhaps you mean your legal skills, I just found the "never" a strong word, for how is a Dom to fulfill no 10 if he doesn't ask for advice?

Oumae

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The only thing I find surprizing about this thread is that some seem to think it is asking for too much?

Take out a few words, like 'always' and 'never' so as to allow for the fact that Doms are human and humans don't always get things right ALL the time and I really don't think it is a lot to ask for.

Might take a while to find but there are a number of such people out there. There are examples on this very board, Ironbear for one, John Warren for another! and if you extend it to Dommes as well then Hathor and Phoenix are but two who spring to mind. They are out there to be found

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I will admit candy, you make Me at times walk away and reflect---as I read this, I smile, for I believe they are not words for Doms...



but words for humanity.

MHOO314

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ORIGINAL: candystripper

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However I suspect that the majority of Doms/Masters wouldn't score highly on that list.

IronBear

Apart from temporary set-backs and other unusual circumstances, would You, Sir, consider a Man a Dom or Master if He failed to possess these qualities? Is a Man a Dom or Master merely because He likes submissive women? i guess the real debate is whether "Domliness and Masterfulness" is achieved or self-awarded. And the tangent then becomes who decides, which is endless and without resolve. So all i can say is this is what "Domliness and Masterfulness" mean to me.

candystripper

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ORIGINAL: IronBear
The lil ones are honestly the best judge of a man for they will often enough see him beforehe showeres, scrubbs fangs and shaves and usually when he has just arisen and has nad no coffee..... He may be a grumpy olf man but is he in control?

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i do think that as you are, as you say, very new, it bears repeating, as wonderful as a man may be - mine included - he is still a human.

newflowers

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

...Dominant is a presonality trait rather than a cloak which is donned at will.

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ORIGINAL: candystripper

"Domliness and Masterfulness"

i am VERY new to BDSM and yet i have found a few things to be true about Doms and Masters:

1. They have impeccable manners, at all times. (Apart from protective moments, etc.)

2. They make no demand to be called "Master" etc. until a collar is considered, and perhaps not even then. They certainly do not choose "MasteroftheUniverse" nicks and demand every woman address Them as such.

3. They are kind and compassionate, answering people in trouble (even of their own making) with sound advice.

4. They are financially stable, whether pauper or prince.

5. They never ask me for free advice.

6. Whatever They have chosen to do for a living, They do so well and confidently.

7. They never pressure me to agree in advance to something which exceeds my limits.

8. In disagreeing with someone, they discuss the point of contention, and refrain from attacking the poster (even when doing so would be fun).

9. They are never self-important; They post as Their own opinion, not The Way It Should Be.

10. They always seem to see Themselves as works in progress, open to new experiences and to learning.

candystripper

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ORIGINAL: amayos

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

...Dominant is a presonality trait rather than a cloak which is donned at will.

Well said.

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ORIGINAL: ProtagonistLily

Holy shit.

This is an EXCELLENT list. I've never seen the traits so exquisitely quantified as I have here.

CS, is this your list, or did you pilf it from somewhere? The only reason I ask is I want to cross post it if you'll let me.

Thanks,
Kassie

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ORIGINAL: ProtagonistLily

Holy shit.

This is an EXCELLENT list. I've never seen the traits so exquisitely quantified as I have here.

CS, is this your list, or did you pilf it from somewhere? The only reason I ask is I want to cross post it if you'll let me.

Thanks,
Kassie

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ORIGINAL: candystripper

"Domliness and Masterfulness"

i am VERY new to BDSM and yet i have found a few things to be true about Doms and Masters:

1. They have impeccable manners, at all times. (Apart from protective moments, etc.)

2. They make no demand to be called "Master" etc. until a collar is considered, and perhaps not even then. They certainly do not choose "MasteroftheUniverse" nicks and demand every woman address Them as such.

3. They are kind and compassionate, answering people in trouble (even of their own making) with sound advice.

4. They are financially stable, whether pauper or prince.

5. They never ask me for free advice.

6. Whatever They have chosen to do for a living, They do so well and confidently.

7. They never pressure me to agree in advance to something which exceeds my limits.

8. In disagreeing with someone, they discuss the point of contention, and refrain from attacking the poster (even when doing so would be fun).

9. They are never self-important; They post as Their own opinion, not The Way It Should Be.

10. They always seem to see Themselves as works in progress, open to new experiences and to learning.

candystripper

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Was in chats last night and someone came up with Holy Fuck.. Now a Catholic Priest friend of mine in his broad Irish Brogue explained that if you have sex on Sunday it is a Holy Fuck, sooooooooooooooooooooo I just figure that a Holy Shit is when you use the dunny on Sunday and leave a sizable deposit you have had ............................................. Hmmmm

IronBear