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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/4/2009 7:12:27 PM

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So you claim it looks like GWB?

No... he simply read the title accompanying the image. In case you missed it, it's that group of large letters above the image. It gives a big clue as to the subject of the artwork.

If you have problems with the recognizability of the subject, perhaps you should take it up with the artist.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Why are you so approving of attempting to equate Obama with a minstrel show performer?

As it appears you may be somewhat culturally deprived, you might try taking advantage of the many resources on the internet. Though often disparaged as a reliable source of information, Wikipedia does have a fairly decent explanation of the comic book character, The Joker.

This particular portion might help with your confusion:

"Throughout the character's long history, there have been several different origin tales; they most commonly depict him as falling into a vat of chemical waste, which bleaches his skin and turns his hair green and his lips bright red, giving him the appearance of a clown."

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/4/2009 8:28:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Soooooo ....

How long should we "give" the Obama administration to catch bin Laden?

Funny, I don't recall you asking the same of this guy:

Bin Laden is wanted: dead or alive, says Bush
Published: 12:01AM BST 18 Sep 2001

PRESIDENT Bush said yesterday that he wanted Osama bin Laden, the Saudi exile, "dead or alive" in some of the most bellicose language used by a White House occupant in recent years.

"I want justice," he said after a meeting at the Pentagon, where 188 people were killed last Tuesday when an airliner crashed into the building. "And there's an old poster out West that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.' "

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/4/2009 8:39:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Soooooo ....

How long should we "give" the Obama administration to catch bin Laden?

Funny, I don't recall you asking the same of this guy:

Bin Laden is wanted: dead or alive, says Bush
Published: 12:01AM BST 18 Sep 2001

PRESIDENT Bush said yesterday that he wanted Osama bin Laden, the Saudi exile, "dead or alive" in some of the most bellicose language used by a White House occupant in recent years.

"I want justice," he said after a meeting at the Pentagon, where 188 people were killed last Tuesday when an airliner crashed into the building. "And there's an old poster out West that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.' "

Ummm, RML? Given the tendencies of President Obama to get it wrong on his first look, do you really want to go grabbing comments from a week after 9/11 to zing Bush II?

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/4/2009 8:55:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Ummm, RML? Given the tendencies of President Obama to get it wrong on his first look, do you really want to go grabbing comments from a week after 9/11 to zing Bush II?

Yes, because I was not the one who brought up the issue, and I'm only hoping he was being facetious.

I can find absolutely no excuse that Bin-Laden is still free after nearly eight years, especially after our former cowboy-in-chief gave his Clint Eastwood speech.

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/4/2009 9:14:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Soooooo ....

How long should we "give" the Obama administration to catch bin Laden?

Funny, I don't recall you asking the same of this guy:

Bin Laden is wanted: dead or alive, says Bush
Published: 12:01AM BST 18 Sep 2001

PRESIDENT Bush said yesterday that he wanted Osama bin Laden, the Saudi exile, "dead or alive" in some of the most bellicose language used by a White House occupant in recent years.

"I want justice," he said after a meeting at the Pentagon, where 188 people were killed last Tuesday when an airliner crashed into the building. "And there's an old poster out West that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.' "

You are absolutely correct. I never did ask the question of "that guy".

But I seem to recall many, many on the left side of the political divide in talking up the point.

Since they seem so obsessed with that timeline, I just wanted to know how long they had decided to give Obama before they started giving him a hard time on the issue.

Well ... how long do you plan on giving him before it becomes an issue, and you start castigating Obama for his failure to capture or kill bin Laden?

Firm

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/4/2009 9:29:25 PM

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I think it's brilliant, The conservatives way overreached and, after essentially controlling the government, got body-slammed out of it in 2008. They are being reduced to whining about Obama.

The poster grabs attention, and somehow manages to associate a pic of Obama with the word Socialist. It's a way to build buzz, when that's really all the conservatives have for the next few years.

And no, I don't consider it racist. Odd, but not racist.

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/4/2009 10:01:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

You are absolutely correct. I never did ask the question of "that guy".

But I seem to recall many, many on the left side of the political divide in talking up the point.

Since they seem so obsessed with that timeline, I just wanted to know how long they had decided to give Obama before they started giving him a hard time on the issue.

Well ... how long do you plan on giving him before it becomes an issue, and you start castigating Obama for his failure to capture or kill bin Laden?

Firm

Sooooooo........

You're really trying to divert attention away from the fact Bush never lived up to his promise.

Maybe we should wait then and ask the question of Obama in eight years since it hasn't seemed to upset you until now.

Eight years for each.

Seems pretty fair.

Oh, except for that pesky little promise one made.

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 1:33:32 AM

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Watching you guys is none too different from looking outside and seeing a typical sandbox argument from my sprogs. They are only 5 and 6. What is your excuse?

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 7:07:55 AM

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Just to add to the general puerility of this thread, I'm going to slam another card I had up my sleeve

. Laura Bush and The Joker: separated at birth?

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 8:00:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

I can find absolutely no excuse that Bin-Laden is still free after nearly eight years, especially after our former cowboy-in-chief gave his Clint Eastwood speech.

Then you know nothing about the geography of Afganistan and the losses that would be taken. It would be the biggest tactical blunder by the US military since the Yalu River.

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 8:28:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

I can find absolutely no excuse that Bin-Laden is still free after nearly eight years, especially after our former cowboy-in-chief gave his Clint Eastwood speech.

Then you know nothing about the geography of Afganistan and the losses that would be taken. It would be the biggest tactical blunder by the US military since the Yalu River.

Please stop talking about geostrategy - we have a historically important poster to discuss, you know.

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 8:44:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: calamitysandra

Watching you guys is none too different from looking outside and seeing a typical sandbox argument from my sprogs. They are only 5 and 6. What is your excuse?

I'm still 5 at heart.

I can't wait till I grow up to be a big boy.

But wait...........I'm pretty big already...............and in all the right places.

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 8:51:20 AM

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Then you know nothing about the geography of Afganistan and the losses that would be taken. It would be the biggest tactical blunder by the US military since the Yalu River.

Was it a tactical blunder when Bush first sent troops in, or is it only a tactical blunder now that Obama is trying to finish what Jr. started?

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 9:39:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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Then you know nothing about the geography of Afganistan and the losses that would be taken. It would be the biggest tactical blunder by the US military since the Yalu River.

Was it a tactical blunder when Bush first sent troops in, or is it only a tactical blunder now that Obama is trying to finish what Jr. started?

No, it was a military success that isolated the Taliban and restricted OBLs movement. Since we did not occupy Afghanistan after that success, things deteriorated again due to the governments inability to defend itself against the Taliban. It is not finishing what GWB started, it is a new effort.

Moreover Afhanistan a real life laboratory showing the peril of premature withdrawal, and is one of the reasons why Obama changed his rhetoric and his plans on Iraq to match GWBs. Perhaps he will even apply that lesson in Afghanistan. He's shown some progress in retreating on OBL's capture even being an important enough objective to justify the cost, again consistent with GWB.

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 10:28:36 AM

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No, it was a military success that isolated the Taliban and restricted OBLs movement. Since we did not occupy Afghanistan after that success, things deteriorated again due to the governments inability to defend itself against the Taliban. It is not finishing what GWB started, it is a new effort.

Uh.....we did and currently occupy Afghanistan.

The mission was not to restrict Bin-Laden, it was to capture him.

Which we failed to do because we committed nine times as many troops to the misadventure in Iraq.

You did see that quote I posted earlier about "dead or alive"?

Don't remember anything about "dead, alive, or restricted".

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Moreover Afhanistan a real life laboratory showing the peril of premature withdrawal, and is one of the reasons why Obama changed his rhetoric and his plans on Iraq to match GWBs. Perhaps he will even apply that lesson in Afghanistan. He's shown some progress in retreating on OBL's capture even being an important enough objective to justify the cost, again consistent with GWB.

Yeah, you're right.

The murder of 3000+ American citizens and attacks on two US cities is really not important enough to bring the man responsible to justice.

Hopefully Obama will do the cost-benefit analysis Bush did, after flip-flopping on his dead-or-alive statement,
and realize cost is the most important thing.

I mean, after all, we all had those little magnets to put on our cars showing how patriotic and outraged we were.

What more can we do?

Certainly we don't want it to cost us anything.

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 2:04:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

No, it was a military success that isolated the Taliban and restricted OBLs movement. Since we did not occupy Afghanistan after that success, things deteriorated again due to the governments inability to defend itself against the Taliban. It is not finishing what GWB started, it is a new effort.

Uh.....we did and currently occupy Afghanistan. lol, sure we did

The mission was not to restrict Bin-Laden, it was to capture him. missions change

Which we failed to do because we committed nine times as many troops to the misadventure in Iraq. there was no failure

You did see that quote I posted earlier about "dead or alive"? missions change. Obama said virtually the same thing, and then turned around and said it isnt that important

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Moreover Afhanistan a real life laboratory showing the peril of premature withdrawal, and is one of the reasons why Obama changed his rhetoric and his plans on Iraq to match GWBs. Perhaps he will even apply that lesson in Afghanistan. He's shown some progress in retreating on OBL's capture even being an important enough objective to justify the cost, again consistent with GWB.

Yeah, you're right.

The murder of 3000+ American citizens and attacks on two US cities is really not important enough to bring the man responsible to justice. Yeah youre right, wasting hundreds or thousands of lives on a mission that accomplishes nothing but "feel good" value makes a lot of sense and makes up for the lives already lost

Hopefully Obama will do the cost-benefit analysis Bush did, after flip-flopping on his dead-or-alive statement,
and realize cost is the most important thing. Obama already did it and agreed with Bush

Youre entitled to your own opinions, not to your own facts.

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 3:13:20 PM

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"hundreds of thousands of lives"...so this was something on the order of an invasion of the Japanese home islands?
And getting the perpetrator of this most heinous of acts...the deliberate targeting of civilians amounts to nothing more than "feel good" value?
I am just about speechless as I read this feeble attempt at spinning the facts to suit partisan posturing

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 5:34:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

The mission was not to restrict Bin-Laden, it was to capture him. missions change

The mission in Afghanistan was to capture or destroy Al Qaida. As far as that goes, it was a failure. Deny it all you like but it doesnt make it so.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/sep/04/afghanistan.september11

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 6:16:20 PM

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Back to the poster ... I like it....wouldn't mind having a signed copy for my office.

And I see it as a "tit for tat" given all that Bush was caricatured. I expect even more caricatures of Obama over then next three years.

The "right" has learned from the "left" many strategies that would have been considered in poor taste previously but are now fair use in today's politics.

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RE: Obama as "The Joker" - 8/5/2009 6:34:34 PM

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You made a typo there crush,you obviously meant the next 7 plus years....it's all cool,I caught it for you ,and corrected it....no need to thank me.

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