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Master4slvAnimal -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 6:35:52 PM)

OK now before I get a bunch of coments that I condone this mans promiscuousy, if a person is in a supposed monogomis relationship I dont believe in cheating on the person they are suposed to be monogomuos with.
At the same time there are other non violent and legal means of confronting and dealing with such a person.
IE: A wife can always devorce such a man and take over half his financial assets and future income...., and a mistress who he is not only not financially helping suport but who is actually spending her own income on the relationship can alway can simply tell him it is over and save her money.
Plus, I do have to wonder how it just happens that all these women all seemed to not only know about each other but be in direct contact with each other, if he was meeting other women secretly, one or two could possibly learn of the others by chance.... but 4??? I have to wonder, was he actually being secret about his extramarital affairs?

Now as to this sugestion of what they did being a Crime of passion?
You seem to have no idea what that is, in law a crime of passion is when (in immedate emotional responce to an unexpected situation or in direct and imediate responce to another persons action)with out plan or deliberate thought a person commits a illegal action both with out thinking of the conciquences of that action, as well as not being capable of considering the right or wrong of that action before doing it.
By law both situations are manditory for any violent act to be legally concidered a Crime of Passion
Clearly these women not oly had time to think very clearly but took well thought out deliberate steps to carry out thier plans far in advance prior to carring out this act because they obviously deliberately and malisiously not only planed the action in order to coordenate all of them being in hididng outside the motel room waiting for the one woman signalling the rest of them after taking deliberate steps to lure him into the motel and placing him into a situation where they could carry out their plans, but atually stationed the one woman to keep watch while they were carring it out.
That proves beyond a doubt that all of them conciously they knew what they were doing and were taking steps to attempt being stopped from carring thier plan out. In itself that rules out any possibility of it being considered an act of passion.
Add the fact that prior to his escape after he started screaming for help and before leaving, in a conciously thought out plan they additionally and deliberately took his cell phone, wallet, and car to prevent his calling for or going for help so they obviously knew that what they were doing was wrong.
No people, in no way was this legally a Crime of Passion.
These women knew exactly what they werer doing way before they did it and by law deserve to pay the legal penaly for it. When anyone takes deliberate and violent mesures to carry out revenge no one should expect not to pay for it and these women now should indeed pay for what they deliberately planned and did.
As the old saying goes, if you do the crime expect to do the time.




Gwynvyd -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 6:47:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoDolphins

There are an awful lot of people (women in particular, but even some men as well) who are not only condoning what these women did, but applauding them.  So I'd say at least to some extent that they're doing this with society's stamp of approval.  As for the court's approval, we'll have to wait and see on this one, but given the sentences female criminals have gotten for some crimes against men that many people felt "deserved" whatever happened to them in the past (i.e. Mary Winkler for starters) I'll be shocked if they come close to receiving the full 6 years they can get.  Honestly, I truly believe if they hadn't stolen this man's wallet and car the chances of them ever seeing the inside of a jail cell would be pretty slim.  If anything robbery is probably what will ultimately get them in the end, not what they physically did to the guy. 


I think we have to take the violence or harm into concideration here.

I have known friends in High School and College who have super glued each others penis's.

I have seen ( yes personally as I was a LEO Law Enforcement Officer) Rapists go free or get a slap on the wrist. The average time served for rape is 65 months. Just under 5 1/2 years. That is *if* they get convicted in the first place.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/psatsfv.pdf

I do not know what you know about the legal system as a whole.... but even in the case of Homicide which I am thinking most will agree is a much worse crime then having your willy glued~ they only serve 48% of their sentances.

These women should get probation and a restraining order. ~ The dude should be more careful where he leaves his dick flopping about in the wind after this.




Gwynvyd -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 6:48:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Actually, because a male's cock was involved, it became of greater interest.

Had it been a woman getting superglue applied to her vaginal lips, concern would have been much less.



Of course... it is the sacredness of the Mystical Dinky. [8|]





Loki45 -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 6:53:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally
The humor being that women are weak and cant really hurt a man if they do then the man is equally weak and if a man hits a woman he will hurt her. A total stereotype I agree and in now way will I say that I agree with it.

I think BOTH are wrong. But I do not really understand where your post came from gluing someones tits together or beating the shit out of them as though they are interchangable.


I never said they were interchangable. I simply mentioned them both in the same post. The only way they are interchangable is if *I* were the man in the article because I can assure you that if a woman gets violent with me over some 'perceived' wrong doing, I will defend myself completely and fully and that will be that.




Loki45 -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 6:57:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Actually, because a male's cock was involved, it became of greater interest.
Had it been a woman getting superglue applied to her vaginal lips, concern would have been much less.

Of course... it is the sacredness of the Mystical Dinky. [8|]


Yeah, that's it. Or perhaps it's because every time a woman 'wrongs' a man, he just has to take it, lest he be labeled an abuser. But when a woman is 'wronged' in some way, oh it's ok then for her to go straight for his dick......or the car to run him over.....or a kitchen knife....




NihilusZero -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 6:58:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Nonsense.  What personal relationship does a rapist have with a woman who chooses to wear a sexy outfit?

Decency.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

What lies has she whispered in his ear?  What worthless promises have been made?

Oh! Forgive me. So only the chick who winks and flirts with you in a bar because she knows you'll buy her drinks but who refuses to suck your cock in the back alley after last call is worthy of being sexually assaulted.

Gotcha.




TheHeretic -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 7:07:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

Gotcha.



About as far from it as it comes, Nihilu, but I'm not going to waste my time.

Have a nice evening.




GoDolphins -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 7:18:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

I think we have to take the violence or harm into concideration here.

I have known friends in High School and College who have super glued each others penis's.

I have seen ( yes personally as I was a LEO Law Enforcement Officer) Rapists go free or get a slap on the wrist. The average time served for rape is 65 months. Just under 5 1/2 years. That is *if* they get convicted in the first place.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/psatsfv.pdf

I do not know what you know about the legal system as a whole.... but even in the case of Homicide which I am thinking most will agree is a much worse crime then having your willy glued~ they only serve 48% of their sentances.

These women should get probation and a restraining order. ~ The dude should be more careful where he leaves his dick flopping about in the wind after this.


Well, you knew some absolutely strange friends if they glued each other's penises.

One of the reasons rape conviction rates are so low is it's very difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.  Even if a man and a woman had sex, you still have to prove that it was nonconsensual.  That's pretty difficult to do. 

I don't like that rapists average such short prison sentences, but I will be very surprised if these women's sentences combined is 5 1/2 years, even figuring the theft into account. 

One of the women involved in this case was married too (and I don't mean this guy's wife).  If her husband had gotten some guys together to superglue her vagina, would you really still be saying they only deserve probation and a restraining order?  If you do, you'd probably be the first person I will have ever heard who would say that.




Gwynvyd -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 7:23:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

Gotcha.



About as far from it as it comes, Nihilu, but I'm not going to waste my time.

Have a nice evening.


Dayum that was jumping the shark there.

He was talking about the cheating... the promises that cheaters give to each woman.

Good god. It shows where a persons mind is.

At least with threads like these you learn who is in need of some serious therapy ala Freud.

"Tell me how you feel about your mother"

Dayum.

*passes a hug to The Heritic*




Loki45 -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 7:51:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoDolphins
I don't like that rapists average such short prison sentences, but I will be very surprised if these women's sentences combined is 5 1/2 years, even figuring the theft into account. 


And lets not forget the cases where a woman MURDERS her husband and not only does she spend what...2 weeks in jail, but she also gets her kids back afterward.

Yeah...that's fair.




BoiJen -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 9:11:14 PM)

It's funny how guys are suddenly "wronged" in the justice system in this case and yet, in every other facet of life they have the societal advantage. Guess they have to have the advantage here as well.

BTW grand theft should dropped. The man's WIFE took his car. It was not stolen. She's entitled to it until he divorces her and the judge decides who gets it. To top it off, the "theft" of his wallet, if it could be found with his wife is gonna be hard to prove as theft. "Robbery" never happened as the claim a firearm was present cannot be substantiated. Theft and robbery are two different crimes.

Just sayin....

boi




Gwynvyd -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 9:42:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

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ORIGINAL: GoDolphins
I don't like that rapists average such short prison sentences, but I will be very surprised if these women's sentences combined is 5 1/2 years, even figuring the theft into account. 


And lets not forget the cases where a woman MURDERS her husband and not only does she spend what...2 weeks in jail, but she also gets her kids back afterward.

Yeah...that's fair.



Back up silly posts like that with some proof. That is total BS.

http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~kastor/walking-steel-95/ws-women-in-prison.html  Most are victims of domestic abuse... not that that would matter to you. Hell she prob egged him on right? [8|]
http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/2081/When-Women-Kill-Their-Partners-FACTORS-THAT-INFLUENCE-MURDER-HUSBANDS-BY-WIVES.html 

Really how DO you feel about your mother. Please tell me you are gay. This much dislike of women is just bad in a hetrosexual male.

Next thing you are going to say is all women are ho's and should just get with black men. *rolls her eyes* or maybe that Marital rape is BS.




BoiJen -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 9:55:08 PM)

The reality is that there may or may not be a correlation between the amount of time served and "justified" violent crimes committed by women against men. AND...while I don't have the studies to prove it, let look at the likelihoods...

Men will commit violent crimes more frequently and with less provocation than women. Men are also more likely to commit a violent crime more than once.

There is a provision in some states that allows self defense as a cited defense for women who act violently against abusive partners. I just forget what it's called.

And no matter what the law says, these women acted out of passion. They passionately planned and executed their plan. They were continuously spurred on by their thoughts of how they had been betrayed. Again, I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just commenting.

It's late, I would ask for forgiveness for not having the citations and referenced proof if I cared more about it.

In Leather,

boi




Loki45 -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 9:57:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd
Back up silly posts like that with some proof. That is total BS.


BS, huh? Proof you say? Fine, try this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397361,00.html

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd
Really how DO you feel about your mother. Please tell me you are gay. This much dislike of women is just bad in a hetrosexual male.

Next thing you are going to say is all women are ho's and should just get with black men. *rolls her eyes* or maybe that Marital rape is BS.


I love it when a wounded girl attacks not only me but my views on my mother. Sure, it's fine when women display their misandry for all to see, but toss out a viewpoint in which they can assume the faintest hint of misogyny and people freak out. I believe that in itself makes my point for me. It's good for the goose, but not for the gander. Yeah right.

Why would I say all women should get with black men if I'm white? Why would you even bring race into this? Perhaps a tendency you were trying to hide?

Edited to add: By the way, before you jump to the last paragraph in the link I posted where she "alleged" abuse by her husband. It's important to see the case from start to finish (as I did since it happened so near to here). The "allegations" (and that's all they were) were never proven, nor supported, NOR was the husband able to defend himself from them....because he was DEAD.

So to recap....all a woman has to do to get away almost scott free with cold blooded murder is 'allege' on the stand that her husband abused her.

And people wonder why I have no need for a relationship. That would be like the deer buying the hunter his gun and ammo and then posing for him.




Loki45 -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 9:59:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen
It's funny how guys are suddenly "wronged" in the justice system in this case and yet, in every other facet of life they have the societal advantage. Guess they have to have the advantage here as well.


Actually, whatever advantage you perceive is your own viewpoint. As I'm sure you'd imagine, men have an entirely different view. Sure, we had the societal advantage....what...20 or 30 years ago. Now....if you say one dissenting word about anything, you're a sexist, an abuser, a chauvanist, etc.

Once again I will refer you to the female comedian (the name escapes me) who said "Men get ready for a date wondering if they're going to get lucky. Women already know."




Loki45 -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 10:05:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen
Men will commit violent crimes more frequently and with less provocation than women. Men are also more likely to commit a violent crime more than once.


Ahh but those same stats that say that also indicate that the more 'likely' to attack and or kill their children are women. Yet women seem to almost always win custody in a divorce case. Funny that.

Also, this "provocation" you mention is highly subjective. Case in point -- the OP. The other posters have already pointed out the avenues available to those women to "legally" exact their revenge. I mean hell, in tons of divorce cases, you can just 'mention' adultery and the guy ends up paying out the ass for the rest of his life (societal advantage my ass......I've heard of ONE case in all my life where the man got alimony).

However, throughout my life I have heard of many women exacting this kind of  "revenge" for some perceived wrong doing. Often times it was merely 'perceived' wrong doing and nothing more.

Here's what I never got: A man thinks his wife his cheating, he tries to catch her in the act and then beats the shit out of......the MAN.

A woman 'thinks' her man is cheating and destroys his car......or his clothes.....or his house.....or (in some cases) him.

In that department, I think the men have it backwards. I'd buy the guy a beer, then call my lawyer and kick the bitch to the curb. Of course that assumes I was stupid enough to let a woman get that close to me to begin with.




WyldHrt -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/6/2009 11:42:23 PM)

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And people wonder why I have no need for a relationship. That would be like the deer buying the hunter his gun and ammo and then posing for him.

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Of course that assumes I was stupid enough to let a woman get that close to me to begin with.

This is probably for the best, considering. [8|]

As for a question you asked more than once in this thread, Loki: If a married female was screwing 3-5 other guys while keeping her spouse in the dark about the guys and the guys in the dark about her spouse, all the while scamming the guys for money, she wouldn't get jack for sympathy or outrage from me if they all got together and glued her labia shut.

While I don't condone the action these women took, I can understand their motivation. He's actually very lucky that they didn't do something much worse. Given the nature of humans, folks who make a habit of jerking people around by their emotions shouldn't really be surprised when one or more turn around and bite them in the ass.




Loki45 -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/7/2009 12:01:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
This is probably for the best, considering. [8|]


Considering what? Considering that since I have no need for female companionship or a need to 'get into a girl's pants' I don't feel I need to sugar-coat or hide my points of view?

Then it would probably surprise you to know that I actually have more female friends than male friends. Even more odd is the fact that most of my female friends A) know my views aren't of them as individuals and B) agree with most of my views.

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
While I don't condone the action these women took, I can understand their motivation. He's actually very lucky that they didn't do something much worse. Given the nature of humans, folks who make a habit of jerking people around by their emotions shouldn't really be surprised when one or more turn around and bite them in the ass.


This statement is something I agree with but often in a reverse context. The reaction to which is usually so severe, it would be a thread hijack to even go into it. So I shant.




Loki45 -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/7/2009 12:04:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen
It's funny how guys are suddenly "wronged" in the justice system in this case and yet, in every other facet of life they have the societal advantage. Guess they have to have the advantage here as well.


Here's one more link for you about the "societal advantage" we men have...[8|]

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_25898.aspx




LadyPact -> RE: Cheaters take note:Karma is 4 Bitches (8/7/2009 12:27:45 AM)

OK, Dude.  Tell you what.  I'll make you a deal.  How about you pull one of those kinds of articles up from about, oh, let's say thirty years ago.  You know, from a time period where domestic violence laws weren't quite as effective.  Tell Me about the huge advantages that women had back then. 

Non consensual physical abuse of anyone is wrong.  Let's see if we can agree on that and then we can continue.




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