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anthrosub -> Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 7:52:11 AM)

I've been on this site for many years and clearly see a very downward spiral taking place in terms of the new membership quality. I can't speak for any of the orientations other than Female Dominants as those are the only profiles I see but I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't happening across the board.

Most of the new profiles look like women who starred in a "Girls Gone Wild" video. I'm sure a majority of these are spam profiles. It's a shame the Internet has had the effect of casting the BDSM world as a way to get money for doing absolutely nothing. Along with these profiles I'm seeing, I have noticed a corresponding increase in spam messages where the gist of the message is a pretense to some form of online domination for cash.

Beyond that, I'm starting to see some pretty ridiculous profiles that are not spam but are clearly from some pretty inane women. For example, one actually has a photo of her holding a butcher's knife, another goes so far as to state that the only people she will bother with are those who own their own home and make at least 120K a year. Most of the remaining profiles are obviously from women who have absolutely no idea who they are or what they want or even what BDSM actually is all about.

I wish there were some sites where becoming a member requires enough effort that only genuine people interested in this lifestyle would be accepted. Clearly ALT and Bondage are not among them. Collarme is an open door and lets all the flys in by being free. Sifting down to the real people is next to impossible.



Rule -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 8:02:09 AM)

Hi anthrosub,

Haven't seen a post of yours in a long time. You always made worthwile posts.

Pray and go out on the streets, man. Your mistress is out there, waiting for a smart sub like you to do her bidding. Scanning through the profiles is a waste of time.



FirmhandKY -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 8:02:59 AM)

Blocking certain IP addresses in Africa would clear out about 90% of the scams.

But it would reduce "page view" percentages as well.

Firm



anthrosub -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 8:13:43 AM)

Thanks for the positive encouragement. But I want to emphasize this is not coming from frustration over meeting a partner. I really do see a trend here.



SirLost -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 8:19:03 AM)

I hate the idea of blocking a certain country or continent because of the scam density. I believe there may be members who aren't really scammers or trolls and deserve to be blocked. But the fact is that the contribution of these members would be lesser than 1/1000 to the damage that scammers give.

I just think any members' location should be assigned by not what they fill, but where their IP shows. Even though it's not a perfect solution, it would be really helpful.



Rule -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 8:22:11 AM)

I hardly ever peruse the profiles, so it does not matter to me. I am here for the message boards. Some interesting people here. Obnoxious people, brainless people and people who use illegible font are easily hidden, and most of them are eventually evicted by one of the mods.



SteelofUtah -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 8:45:22 AM)

This is what happens when the Economy is Bad. This is a Matter of Supply and Demand.

If there was no Demand there would be little supply.

I know of SMART people who have asked me to review Profiles because they are interested and when I contact them I get the same Copy Paste Replies that these SMART people (And Yes I think these people are actually SMART just lonely) are getting from them.

No matter how well known the idea is that you can't BUY love I am amazed at how much money gets spent trying.

Steel



stef -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 8:55:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Blocking certain IP addresses in Africa would clear out about 90% of the scams.

It would work for about a week until people realized what was happening and they started using proxies.  IP blocking doesn't work.  What could work is going to a fee based system where accounts could be tied to a verifiable identity, but there are pluses and minuses to that as well.  It's also somewhat moot since TPTB have said that's not going to happen.

~stef



Missokyst -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 9:08:19 AM)

Ever heard of Match.com, eHarmony.com?  They started their own venue, first lure them in with free, then go for the more seriously dedicated by making their sites a pay service.
I am a huge believer in enterprise and filling a need for what the public demands.
If you do think these free sites are too much effort to sort out, start your own.
Complaining isn't going to change a thing.

quote:

ORIGINAL: anthrosub
I wish there were some sites where becoming a member requires enough effort that only genuine people interested in this lifestyle would be accepted.
 
Collarme is an open door and lets all the flys in by being free.



MarcEsadrian -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 9:33:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: anthrosubI've been on this site for many years and clearly see a very downward spiral taking place in terms of the new membership quality. I can't speak for any of the orientations other than Female Dominants as those are the only profiles I see but I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't happening across the board.

Most of the new profiles look like women who starred in a "Girls Gone Wild" video. I'm sure a majority of these are spam profiles. It's a shame the Internet has had the effect of casting the BDSM world as a way to get money for doing absolutely nothing. Along with these profiles I'm seeing, I have noticed a corresponding increase in spam messages where the gist of the message is a pretense to some form of online domination for cash.

Beyond that, I'm starting to see some pretty ridiculous profiles that are not spam but are clearly from some pretty inane women. For example, one actually has a photo of her holding a butcher's knife, another goes so far as to state that the only people she will bother with are those who own their own home and make at least 120K a year. Most of the remaining profiles are obviously from women who have absolutely no idea who they are or what they want or even what BDSM actually is all about.


Without a doubt, things are getting stranger on the internet in general. Host your own blog and see how many shameless spam attempts you get; it's a daily assault of shadow marketing. The high water mark for completely disingenuous profiles, messages, sign-ups and so on has risen across the internet in general, but as you point out, it's usually not too hard to see what's real and what's for sale, as the song goes.

"Most of the remaining profiles are obviously from women who have absolutely no idea who they are or what they want or even what BDSM actually is all about."

While it can be argued that BDSM can mean a lot of different things to different people, I generally agree with your statement, and I believe it is a result of mainstream encroachment into certain alternative lifestyles that have gained some traction in the public eye. Vetting the people you associate with is a responsibility that will never go away, on-line or off, especially now that "bondage" has become a near household word.




kdsub -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 9:34:13 AM)

I claim no knowledge of the true meaning of BDSM that’s for sure but I have noticed tendencies in message boards that follow our nature.

Generally a group of people form a board on a subject dear to them. They are serious thinking adults with a common passion.

Almost immediately these groups begin to form subgroups according to their particular views on their passion as well as life in general.

Over time these groups become more and more polarized and soon they become belligerent and intolerable to other ways of thinking.

This intolerance breeds fanaticism and soon the original purpose of the message board is forgotten.

Thus the reason new message boards are created…just don’t ever expect a particular board to remain static and always in accordance with your views… It will never happen because it is not us.

Butch



kc692 -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 10:03:25 AM)

I will temper my own comments too, because I know you are a regular and respected poster, not one of the "whiner come latelys". At least the women are so ridiculous as to be obvious, and actually, there are a lot of vanilla women on vanilla sites that demand certain financial criteria to take a moment out of their busy day to talk to someone .(hopes all caught the sarcasm there [;)] ) That is why sites like millionairemate.com are around.

On the other side of the coin, I do not look at male dominants per se. But I have noticed they, like the females, are getting younger, and more "photogenic". I will also say that I see they have much more (on the whole) an "on your knees bitch, now!" attitude for their domination, and Im sure most of them still live at home(as do a large part of the females).  I always say use this test....its a good gauge** places tongue firmly in cheek and hopes everyone else does same**

If you are middle aged, fat, fugly and have no qualities in real life that even vanilla women want, and you have no specialized"bdsm skills" like rope bondage, suspension etc that might put you above the crowd, and some very hot young female dominant approaches you, if you are truly suprised when in all probability the money request comes, you need more of a reality check and protection that any site could ever provide for you



anthrosub -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 10:28:01 AM)

I didn't know there is actually a "millionaremate.com" website. When I read that I burst out laughing. It truly amazes me what people can and will do. Sometimes I browse the profiles simply for a laugh and usually get one but then catch myself and think how sad it is that I can get one so easily. Those like the one with a butcher's knife make me wonder what that person is thinking. In this day and age, that's almost like asking to be investigated.



kc692 -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 11:36:36 AM)

Sad thing is, that site actually does exist. The reason I know is they emailed me asking me to join(dont know what mailing list they operate off of to get my name). I thought about writing back and telling them I didn't qualify because I had no money.......and telling them they apparently were wasting their's if advertising to the likes of me  [:D][:D]



RedMagic1 -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 11:52:48 AM)

I actually know, in real life, a sub who enjoys being humiliated by "vanilla" women, and he has recruited a few women, who kick him and do other fetishy but nonsexual things, off seekingarrangement.com.



FullCircle -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 11:57:57 AM)

I had always assumed millionaires could take care of themselves as far as such matters were concerned or that perhaps advertising the fact you were a millionaire wasn't the best idea in the world.



olena -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 12:01:18 PM)

I think men out of frustration or blind faith tend to get annoyed by the players in life because many men when deciding to contact someone often go on the hope she is sincere or hope that while there is no effort in her profile she looks hot or she is someone new to write.

I think the best way to see better quality of people and profiles is to stop writing the players in hopes they are not players. I do not understand what is so frustrating about hitting the delete button.

If one just focuses on the profiles that come of as sincere and avoid the profiles you hope are sincere because you like their picture or their interest list I think it would save the frustration and more importantly if enough people do that the players will not be on here because it will not be worth their time. From my side I never had a problem finding enough sincere men from their profiles. Got players of course but they should not bother someone who does not desperate for any contact.





SirLost -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 12:19:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692

Sad thing is, that site actually does exist. The reason I know is they emailed me asking me to join(dont know what mailing list they operate off of to get my name). I thought about writing back and telling them I didn't qualify because I had no money.......and telling them they apparently were wasting their's if advertising to the likes of me  [:D][:D]


I think they also look for pretty not-rich females that would interest rich men, it must be why they send mails to random people.


And I must confess that I got fooled by one of those scammers when I joined here. 'She' had mailed me saying 'she' loved my profile, and her profile wasn't looking too strange (I just thought there wasn't a reason a pretty woman can't write "I want a honest and caring Master" in her profile). She seemed to be at least reading and responing my long mails. She wasn't extremely hot, was just cute; I just thought she didn't want to mention the details about her in the public profile.

I'm not that idiot, I always kept the probability of her being fake in my mind. So it wasn't such a big disappointment when she asked for money to be able to pay the hotel she's staying in South Africa during her work trips. 'She' was quite successful in scamming in her first letters, but 'she' began to make several writing and logical mistakes in 'her' following letters.



LookieNoNookie -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 6:21:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: anthrosub

I've been on this site for many years and clearly see a very downward spiral taking place in terms of the new membership quality. (Well...they're NOT like us you know!!!!) I can't speak for any of the orientations other than Female Dominants as those are the only profiles I see but I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't happening across the board.  (I concur).

Most of the new profiles look like women who starred in a "Girls Gone Wild" video. (Okay....you can just stop right the fuck there....I'm okay with that....I'm never gonna date them anyways....and hey...why the fuck you wanna shut down some good pussy pics for an old man like me!!!??). I'm sure a majority of these are spam profiles. (See above). It's a shame the Internet has had the effect of casting the BDSM world as a way to get money for doing absolutely nothing. (Fucking bastages!). Along with these profiles I'm seeing, I have noticed a corresponding increase in spam messages where the gist (very nice!  Most people would have spelled that "jist"...which, for the record....would be entirely incorrect!). of the message is a pretense to some form of online domination for cash.

Beyond that, I'm starting to see some pretty ridiculous profiles that are not spam but are clearly from some pretty inane women. For example, one actually has a photo of her holding a butcher's knife, another goes so far as to state that the only people she will bother with are those who own their own home and make at least 120K a year. (As a 51 year old male Pro sub, somewhat taller than my hair, a smidge overweight, {but....I have all my teeth!} I demand a woman {okay....most of my own teeth} who can take care of me in the style {okay....fine...fuck all of you...I have a tooth} I've become accustomed to) Most of the remaining profiles are obviously from women who have absolutely no idea who they are (I know who they are...why are you so confused?) or what they want or even what BDSM actually is all about.

I wish there were some sites where becoming a member requires enough effort that only genuine people interested in this lifestyle would be accepted. Clearly ALT and Bondage are not among them. Collarme is an open door and lets all the flys in by being free. Sifting down to the real people is next to impossible.

So does alt...so do all others.

Here's the deal...you have an outie....what you want is someone who has an innie.

The one's who have the innies....they pretty much have the deal sewed up.

When you have an innie...you get to control the conversation.

(Let me know if any of this was unclear).



CatdeMedici -> RE: Collarme Profiles and Messages (8/6/2009 8:17:25 PM)

Well that's what I love about a free site, you pretty much have two choices: one can stay or one can go, but it is what it is.



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