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glynn012954 -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/11/2009 6:52:10 PM)

When I was married to my first wife who was also my mistress and cuckoldress she sprang this up on me. She had not let me cum (kept in a chastity device) for a little over 2 months. One night she came home with her boy friend of the time and instead of sending me to the spare bedroom she had me accompany them to the bed room. Once there he undressed while she had me sit down in a straight back chair in the corner. She then told me that they had been discussing if he as a hetrosexual would let a man suck his cock. He had said he wasn't sure and wouldn't know unless it actually happened. She looked both of us in the eye and said that the time had come. If I would suck him off she would give me a hand job and let me come. If I refused it would be another 2 months before she would even consider unlocking me. She then told him that if he would let me she would let him then fuck her in the ass which he had been pushing her to do. With out a word said he walked over to where I was sitting and I sucked him off while she stood there smoking a cigarette urging us both on. After it was all overI guess you would say it was a win win for all involved. I did not enjoy the act but I did enjoy the hand job. He never said if he enjoyed the bj but he was hard as a rock once I started and I know from the moaning I heard later he enjoyed fucking her in the ass. And she enjoyed it all as she got to display her power which was her true fetish. She proved to herself that she had the power to get men to do what ever she wanted.



SthrnCom4t -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/11/2009 6:56:03 PM)

Sexual orientation isn't the same as sexually obedient.

However, I do believe a person can be trained to associate certain acts (submission, receipt of anal penetration, cock-sucking) with sexual stimulation/arousal, if they were not inclined that way originally. If the inclination was there naturally, the training/association would be minimal, or unnecessary.



marsneedswomen -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/11/2009 7:51:45 PM)

I think about all the things I thought I would never do and then look at the things I have done, I learn never is not always never.



MistressRouge -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/12/2009 6:20:48 PM)


How hot is that [:D] That's what you call a slave [:)]


quote:

ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

Yes, for himself, Ma'am's slave does believe this.  A few years ago, he attempted to become a live in slave to a gay Master.  This Master was quite surprised when He asked Her slave if he was out of the gay closet and he answered that he didn't consider himself to be gay.  When asked to label his own sexuality, Her slave said he considered himself to be slavesexual, if you will.  That is, the hottest thing to him is being used for the pleasure of Others, of either sex, without reciprocation.  As to the sex of those others, he does have a preference for Women, but will happily serve anybody Ma'am tells him to in any manner She orders.  In other words, his sexual orientation is whatever She wants it to be.




PeonForHer -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/12/2009 6:27:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SthrnCom4t

Sexual orientation isn't the same as sexually obedient.

However, I do believe a person can be trained to associate certain acts (submission, receipt of anal penetration, cock-sucking) with sexual stimulation/arousal, if they were not inclined that way originally. If the inclination was there naturally, the training/association would be minimal, or unnecessary.


I know that for certain.  [;)]



LadyPact -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/12/2009 8:46:07 PM)

Every time this subject comes up, I have to say the same thing.

So many Doms would love to have a female sub willing to engage in sexual activities with other females.  Why should it be different when a female Dominant would like the same from her male sub?



HarryVanWinkle -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/12/2009 10:13:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressRouge
How hot is that [:D] That's what you call a slave [:)]
quote:

ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle
Yes, for himself, Ma'am's slave does believe this.  A few years ago, he attempted to become a live in slave to a gay Master.  This Master was quite surprised when He asked Her slave if he was out of the gay closet and he answered that he didn't consider himself to be gay.  When asked to label his own sexuality, Her slave said he considered himself to be slavesexual, if you will.  That is, the hottest thing to him is being used for the pleasure of Others, of either sex, without reciprocation.  As to the sex of those others, he does have a preference for Women, but will happily serve anybody Ma'am tells him to in any manner She orders.  In other words, his sexual orientation is whatever She wants it to be.



Mistress Rouge,

Ma'am's slave thanks You for the compliment.  But, since he is only what She trains him to be, the compliment is really to Her.



Politesub53 -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 1:15:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Every time this subject comes up, I have to say the same thing.

So many Doms would love to have a female sub willing to engage in sexual activities with other females.  Why should it be different when a female Dominant would like the same from her male sub?



Why should the wishes of male dominants have any bearings on anyhing to do with male submissives, unless one has a Master. I have always felt society as a whole is more relaxed about female/female action than male/male action. Youre right to ask why there is a difference though, I would think most male submissives would be happy if you lent them to a female dominant but not a male one.

Quite frankly two Mistresses getting it on seems kind of horny, especially if  I`m tied to the bed [8D]



LadyPact -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 1:32:39 AM)

What I'm saying is that gender doesn't have a place in it.  If female bisexuality is so accepted, even desired, why on earth should it be any different for males?



VanityFix -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 1:44:08 AM)

the straight male has to fear both: the bisexual male hitting on him and his gf. [;)]



Politesub53 -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 2:34:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

What I'm saying is that gender doesn't have a place in it.  If female bisexuality is so accepted, even desired, why on earth should it be any different for males?


I dont know the answer to this, I doubt anyone else can give a good reply either. Maybe it lies in the answer of male dominance in general, the hunter gatherer and all that.



malloves69 -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 4:13:59 AM)

hey Ms LP  ..i actually agree with you [:)] geez did i say that ? if 2 women can be together and everyone or should i say most people think its HOT  ...then why cant 2 guys be the same way ? ecspecially if a woman is directing the action [:)]fair is fair right ? for me though the only thing that trumps this is if the people are married ..they must know whats going on with each other and if they do and are happy with it then so be it [:)]they can swing anyway they want to because they are not hurting anyone as long as both people can accept that as part of their marriage ..just my .02 cents worth but i think it would be fun to be able to share that with your s/o as long as both people want it [:)] have fun mal



VanityFix -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 4:24:20 AM)

i dont think bisexuality amoung females is that well acsepted in comparison to men, what is acsepted is 2 straight girls kissing to get a boy's attention and the fantasy of some guys of "2 women double the fun"
as a "bisexual" (i dont perticularly like lables) i came out about a year ago, basicly its social suicide amoung gay men, i think bisexual woman also face such fate, but the world is changing and as gay is very widly acsepted even in this backwater city in prarie Canada, as that grows i feel bisexuals will step out more and more, that and more hetrosexuals will be freindlier to ideas of experimenting, i think we are in the middle of alot of growth in human sexuality as a culture, so dont worry little straight boys you will get your cock! [:)]



PeonForHer -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 4:55:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

What I'm saying is that gender doesn't have a place in it.  If female bisexuality is so accepted, even desired, why on earth should it be any different for males?


I've a feeling that male bisexuality has a lot more to do with power relations between males than female bisexuality has to do with power relations between women.  I'm pretty confident that this is true of humans, as a socially-observable thing, but it may even be true re males versus females in other species of primates, too.  One thing that's often struck me when watching nature-docs about primates is that beta males will often show obeisance to the alpha by presenting their arses to him, as if to say "I'm not challenging you.  Don't get aggressive - get turned on as though I'm a female instead!"  Gah -- I don't know about that stuff.  I didn't study animal behaviour beyond age 16. 



elegantcdgoddess -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 9:05:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

On a different slant, My gay male friend is an escort, and the amount of married "closet gay" that book him is unbelievable, and his main client base.




or how many of them not only are closet gay, but have fantasy to submit orally to their wife imaginary lover, who is usually well endowed black male. interesting....



VeryMercurial -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 9:51:55 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: VanityFix
so dont worry little straight boys you will get your cock! [:)]



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Reigna -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 10:59:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

What I'm saying is that gender doesn't have a place in it.  If female bisexuality is so accepted, even desired, why on earth should it be any different for males?


I dont know the answer to this, I doubt anyone else can give a good reply either. Maybe it lies in the answer of male dominance in general, the hunter gatherer and all that.


Newp. It's because male sexuality is, of necessity, very rigidly defined and its performance is very strictly monitored. Men HAVE TO be a certain way, and they absolutely MAY NOT deviate from the prescribed course, or else. Women get a little extra slack in this and related matters because our sexuality is less important (if it even exists). A couple of women fucking, well, meh, so what. A couple of men fucking ... my god, society will disintegrate.



Reigna -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 11:07:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: VanityFix

what is acsepted is 2 straight girls kissing to get a boy's attention



This is very true. It is, of course, completely obvious that two women wouldn't actually be into each other--or at least, they'd be far less interested in each other than they would be in the guy who's watching like the cat that just ate the canary.

I'm straight, and one of the main reasons that I've always refused even to play at bisexuality is that I will not use another woman for some guy's entertainment.



shadowowl -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 12:48:36 PM)

I'm always of the opinion that you can control me but never change who I am at least not at the core.   If I don't like guys there is nothing anyone can do to change that short of traumatizing and reprogramming me in a very unhealthy manner. 
and while springing something like that on me may work and I may even enjoy the shear domination and control of the event,  it would seriously affect the trust in the D/s relationship with a high chance of destroying it slowly with that being the trigger effect.
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PeonForHer -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (the setup) (8/13/2009 1:05:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Reigna
It's because male sexuality is, of necessity, very rigidly defined and its performance is very strictly monitored. Men HAVE TO be a certain way, and they absolutely MAY NOT deviate from the prescribed course, or else. Women get a little extra slack in this and related matters because our sexuality is less important (if it even exists). A couple of women fucking, well, meh, so what. A couple of men fucking ... my god, society will disintegrate.


Apparently the story that Victoria refused to sign any act proscribing lesbianism because she refused to believe that it existed is a myth.   I think that male sexuality is more rigidly defined than female sexuality (I think we've talked about this before, Reigna, in relation to ums!)  As feminists have frequently pointed out, women have been considered as 'others' - not part of the public world - for centuries in the West.  In some crucial sense they 'didn't matter'; therefore, neither did their sexuality.

Re that 'power relationship' I mentioned:  to be considered homosexual as a male was simultaneously to be considered 'weak'.   While lesbians may have been considered odd, unnatural, etc, etc - I don't think they've ever been considered to be weak versions of 'real women'. 



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