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ORIGINAL: strob

I am just probably seeing things from a different aspect but I need one thing clarified.
For some time now, I was having nice chats and exchanging messages with a certain Domme within this community.
We seemed to be interested in each other and all the things we could provide, one to another.
And then I asked this..."how do you feel about financial domination?"
Suddenly, I got the feeling she got very mad at me and, since then, she wouldn't talk to me at all.
This financial domination thing, from my point of view, is important if a real owner-slave relationship is to be developed.
Why is it that I got ditched by Her so harshly?

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ORIGINAL: slavejali

I kinda just skimmed through this thread, partly cuz i didnt understand the original post entirely.

I've got a question though:

How much control could a Dominant have if they dont hold the financial decisions? I'm not meaning that the Dominant has to make more money than the submissive/slave but to really be in control of the relationship, wouldnt they have to have control of the money? It would seem a natural course to follow for me.
So many life decisions are centered around finances.Sorry if i got off the original purpose of the thread, but thats the thoughts that came to me.

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ORIGINAL: McWhips

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ORIGINAL: strob

I am just probably seeing things from a different aspect but I need one thing clarified.
For some time now, I was having nice chats and exchanging messages with a certain Domme within this community.
We seemed to be interested in each other and all the things we could provide, one to another.
And then I asked this..."how do you feel about financial domination?"
Suddenly, I got the feeling she got very mad at me and, since then, she wouldn't talk to me at all.
This financial domination thing, from my point of view, is important if a real owner-slave relationship is to be developed.
Why is it that I got ditched by Her so harshly?

The chances are that she was probably interested in having your money aka 'financial Domination'. If I where you I'd run a mile, financial Domination may be a nice fantasy for some on paper but I think it would be extremely hard to actually find someone who is interested in it solely for the purpose of a real trusting enjoyable D/s dynamic as opposed to just wanting to make themselves richer at the expense of someone they dont particularly love or like.
I assume you are looking for a relationship with a Domme. So be sensible and use common sense.

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ORIGINAL: strob
And then I asked this..."how do you feel about financial domination?"
Suddenly, I got the feeling she got very mad at me and, since then, she wouldn't talk to me at all.

If you phrased it in those words, I'm not at all surprised at her reaction. The first thing that popped into my mind on seeing "financial domination" is the image of a Domme who asks for money from the slave, as the central focus of the relationship. There is nothing wrong with that in itself...consenting adults, and all that...but it may have seemed insulting to her.

This financial domination thing, from my point of view, is important if a real owner-slave relationship is to be developed.
Why is it that I got ditched by Her so harshly?

I agree, that finances and the handling of them, is important in any relationship. Perhaps asking something along the lines of, "Do you think that a Mistress should take control of the slave's financial responsibilities in an Owner/slave relationship?" you would have made yourself clearer to her.

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The chances are that she was probably interested in having your money aka 'financial Domination'. If I where you I'd run a mile, financial Domination may be a nice fantasy for some on paper but I think it would be extremely hard to actually find someone who is interested in it solely for the purpose of a real trusting enjoyable D/s dynamic as opposed to just wanting to make themselves richer at the expense of someone they dont particularly love or like.
I assume you are looking for a relationship with a Domme. So be sensible and use common sense.

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ORIGINAL: McWhips
You could argue that there may be some male Doms out there who live financially off their female sub but I would bet my pretty face that such a Dom would be seen as a total wrongen, get dissed for it big time and so on and so on.

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ORIGINAL: ShadeDiva

Dangnabbit.

MAZNY=MANY.

This is not my day for typing at all. LOL.

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
But there are many boys who strongly disagree with this

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress


I have a bit of a different insight into why she may have bailed on you. There are a lot of wankers out there who say they're into financial domination as a carrot to interest inexperienced Domme into playing online with them. They have no intention of ever entering into financial domination with the woman. A 20 year old friend of mine spent almost three weeks on this guy who led her on with the idea, then when push came to shove, he laughed at her. She's pretty bitter about the experience. Could be your Domme friend had a similar experience

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Its quite simple childs math really. Female subs and Doms are roughly equal numbers to each other and there are little to no relationships between them that hinge upon money being given to the Dom. While male subs out number Dommes 100:1 and many of the relationships between those depend on money being given to the Domme in one form or another.

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No-one can deny that fact.

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My sentiments do not hail from any kind of self loathing or personal issues at all, I guarantee that!

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ORIGINAL: slavejali

I kinda just skimmed through this thread, partly cuz i didnt understand the original post entirely.

I've got a question though:

How much control could a Dominant have if they dont hold the financial decisions? I'm not meaning that the Dominant has to make more money than the submissive/slave but to really be in control of the relationship, wouldnt they have to have control of the money? It would seem a natural course to follow for me.
So many life decisions are centered around finances.

Sorry if i got off the original purpose of the thread, but thats the thoughts that came to me.

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ORIGINAL: seaturtle50

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Its quite simple childs math really. Female subs and Doms are roughly equal numbers to each other and there are little to no relationships between them that hinge upon money being given to the Dom. While male subs out number Dommes 100:1 and many of the relationships between those depend on money being given to the Domme in one form or another.

OK McWhips, lets take a slightly closer look at this "childs math."

We start with 1 bona-fide Domme.

This according to the simplified math and your applied ratio means we now also have 100 "submissive" males.

Of this 100

 50 - <most likely a conservative number> are actually wankers trying to fulfill an online fantasy only = 50 left
 5 - are actually bottoms who would be most comfortable paying a ProDomme for services = 45 left
 10 - are in relationships <married and otherwise> and their partner has no idea = 35 left
 7 - are only interested in online domination = 28 left
 7 - will not relocate, thus taking most of them effectively out of my "pool" = 21 left
 10 - have such poor manners and attitude they will automatically disqualify themselves in the eyes of most Dominas = 11 left
 10 - have not been able to release themselves from the male stigma of "money = control." This is to say that they have come face to face with the largely male issue of the emotional difficulty of financial surrender to a Domina. This i think is much due to the male being culturally hypnotized to believe that he is to be the provider, the breadwinner. <That is also the main reason this dynamic may often be missing in the male Dom/female submissive relationship>. Not terrific postures for a submissive from the get go. Certainly not in an M/s relationship - where TPE is the order of the day. = 1 left.

So i see my ratio of Domina to submissive male as 1:1.

In reality, i suspect the odds are even better due to the fact that there are actually many Dominas looking for more than one submissive male with a proper attitude. My "childs math" above does not even take that into account. Or the many other factors in play such as an individual submissives abitlity to be honest, mature, and reliable.

i have only been "around" the lifestyle a short while, and must say i find there to be an appalling lack of competition for the Dommes wondrous attentions. Especially in view of the fabled 100:1 ratio. i have managed to attend a few munch's so far, and since there were 4 or 5 Domina's present - i could not help but wonder where they were hiding the 400 to 500 submissive males that were potentially vying with me for their attention?

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No-one can deny that fact.

i guess i just did.

Have Fun
st50

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ORIGINAL: McWhips

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ORIGINAL: imtempting

Some people enjoy financially dominating people. In my opinion though, the people who enjoy it just want a free ride..

Its quite simple childs math really. Female subs and Doms are roughly equal numbers to each other and there are little to no relationships between them that hinge upon money being given to the Dom. While male subs out number Dommes 100:1 and many of the relationships between those depend on money being given to the Domme in one form or another.

No-one can deny that fact.

You could argue that there may be some male Doms out there who live financially off their female sub but I would bet my pretty face that such a Dom would be seen as a total wrongen, get dissed for it big time and so on and so on.