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LaTigresse -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 2:37:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KYsissy

So THAT's what I have been doing wrong,   So those "do me" messages are getting your attention?

Here I have been trying tell potential Dommes of all the things I can do that would benefit them. Damn near any kind of home repair or improvement project I can handle, as well as cooking and cleaning.  So far not much luck with that approach.

Should I start writing "do me" messages?

Hmmmm . . .



In that first email, how much time did you send writing about other interests? How many questions did you ask about things other than kink? Did you comment on any of her forum posts or interests listed in her profile that have nothing to do with kink?

I ask this because I like a person to write me as a human being also. Especially in the first email. If someone writes that they want to come to my house and do things for me, I am going to think, "ewww potential stalker just trying to get into my personal life"

Just a nice friendly email that may ,briefly acknowledge kink but doesn't make it the focus of the contact, is a welcome relief.




XYisInferior -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 2:46:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I guess those sort of men who see financial domination as the ultimate form of surrender will need to find women who see the same thing as the ultimate form of control. 



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ORIGINAL: Reigna

I'm very much afraid that the overriding tendency is for people to see their favorite practice as "the ultimate form of surrender."



I see it a little differently. You can make a study of dissecting and fetishizing the many expressions of ultimate surrender, or consider the source of ultimate surrender itself, which is not contained in a single act or summed up in a single, disconnected fetish. The way I see it, complete financial domination (and a host of other things people here would probably find equally if not more "offensive" in M/s) is a result of ultimate surrender among many others; it's not just a "fetish". At least, not for me and not in the world I live. My favorite practice is serving and worshipping the Woman I adore, period.





KYsissy -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 3:08:56 PM)

Typically I don't even mention kink as I think that is pretty much understood given the nature of the site.




Reigna -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 3:52:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: XYisInferior

The way I see it, complete financial domination (and a host of other things people here would probably find equally if not more "offensive" in M/s) is a result of ultimate surrender among many others; it's not just a "fetish". At least, not for me and not in the world I live. My favorite practice is serving and worshipping the Woman I adore, period.



Thank you; I appreciate your point of view. My own is in that "ultimate surrender," in the current context, is a fantasy.

As to this thread--reduced to its essence, it consists of men complaining about gold-digging women, and women complaining about cheap-ass men. What's new?




KYsissy -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 4:03:24 PM)

"As to this thread--reduced to its essence, it consists of men complaining about gold-digging women, and women complaining about cheap-ass men. What's new? "

LOL Good Stuff!

Women can charge a fee and many men will pay. Same as it ever was.




NoreenSwan -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 5:10:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Reigna

quote:

ORIGINAL: XYisInferior

The way I see it, complete financial domination (and a host of other things people here would probably find equally if not more "offensive" in M/s) is a result of ultimate surrender among many others; it's not just a "fetish". At least, not for me and not in the world I live. My favorite practice is serving and worshipping the Woman I adore, period.



Thank you; I appreciate your point of view. My own is in that "ultimate surrender," in the current context, is a fantasy.




Uh, in what context are you talking about? Financial surrender? And for everyone? Listen... sweety... see here's the deal. You can't fathom total surrender because you never experienced it yourself and never will. Surrender for you amounts to "Hey baby, here I am, let's get it on and play". And I got the impression--and still have the impression--that you will never know what its like for someone to surrender beyond a kinky time in bed with those ever so popular pink cuffs. Surrender anything other than for some kinky sex? Newp, it'll never beyond kink for you.




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 5:37:56 PM)

Reigna may not be able to fathom 'total surrender' as a sub may feel it because she's a dominant, not a submissive, Noreen. 

Dominants see such phrases much more literally, I've noticed, than subs will use them.  Given that one still has power while one remains alive, 'total surrender' might even imply the sub's death.  That's not so silly as it sounds, given that on another thread, recently, certain dommes have been talking about the desire to eat their subs.




NoreenSwan -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 5:53:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NoreenSwan

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ORIGINAL: Reigna

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ORIGINAL: XYisInferior

The way I see it, complete financial domination (and a host of other things people here would probably find equally if not more "offensive" in M/s) is a result of ultimate surrender among many others; it's not just a "fetish". At least, not for me and not in the world I live. My favorite practice is serving and worshipping the Woman I adore, period.



Thank you; I appreciate your point of view. My own is in that "ultimate surrender," in the current context, is a fantasy.




Uh, in what context are you talking about? Financial surrender? And for everyone? Listen... sweety... see here's the deal. You can't fathom total surrender because you never experienced it FROM A MAN TOWARDS YOU and never will. Surrender for you amounts to A MAN SAYING "Hey baby, here I am, let's get it on and play". And I got the impression--and still have the impression--that you will never know what its like for someone to surrender beyond a kinky time in bed with those ever so popular pink cuffs. Surrender anything other than for some kinky sex? Newp, it'll never beyond kink for you.




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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Reigna may not be able to fathom 'total surrender' as a sub may feel it because she's a dominant, not a submissive, Noreen.






Then she has a very weak view as a dominant woman what depths of submission can be reached in a sub man. This is no lesser an offense in my humble opinion.

Sorry, try again. [:D]




Starbuck09 -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 5:59:06 PM)

Whatever her views they are not an offence Noreen they are her own sexual preferences no more valid or invalid than yours. There is no ''standard'' of B.D.S.M. to aspire to, you simply practice what you are comfortable with. Casual play in the bedroom is no ''less'' than a lifestyle 24/7 relationship.




NoreenSwan -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 6:00:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Men and their money, in our culture, has got some serious hangups. Many men say they want to submit, but the very idea of submitting the power of their money and most of them freak the hell out. It is as though you are emasculating them.




Bumpity bump.




VeryMercurial -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 6:01:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Starbuck09

Whatever her views they are not an offence Noreen they are her own sexual preferences no more valid or invalid than yours. There is no ''standard'' of B.D.S.M. to aspire to, you simply practice what you are comfortable with. Casual play in the bedroom is no ''less'' than a lifestyle 24/7 relationship.


I agree with this statement.
We could also say the majority of the "male submissives" around here and online are seeking
casual play in the bedroom and that is their idea of "submission".
We could also say that the majority of  Dominant women on here seek a lot more than casual play in the
bedroom.
[;)]




Starbuck09 -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 6:02:51 PM)

Whay are you bumping that Noreen? That does not illustrate that one form of dominance and submission is superior to another.




Starbuck09 -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 6:10:34 PM)

More than likely mercurial.[:D]




Reigna -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 6:30:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Starbuck09
Whatever her views they are not an offence Noreen they are her own sexual preferences no more valid or invalid than yours. There is no ''standard'' of B.D.S.M. to aspire to, you simply practice what you are comfortable with. Casual play in the bedroom is no ''less'' than a lifestyle 24/7 relationship.


I'm going to pass up the opportunity to participate in this particular debate. The topic has been touched on, not to say beaten to a bloody pulp and left for dead by the side of the road, in the many threads on "true dominants/true submissives," "slavery--fantasy or reality?" and on and on ad nauseam  I'll just say that I don't mind certain people deriding my opinions. God knows, I snigger at theirs.




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 6:33:45 PM)

I'm going to pass up the opportunity to participate in this particular debate.

I admire your forbearance, Reigna.  I mean that.




Reigna -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 6:38:20 PM)

You know what? If we keep this thread spinning, we might be able to surpass that infamous 45-pager, "Heterosexual males sucking cock."

I say we go for it.




VeryMercurial -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 6:50:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Reigna

You know what? If we keep this thread spinning, we might be able to surpass that infamous 45-pager, "Heterosexual males sucking cock."

I say we go for it.

 
Nothing will EVER surpass that thread.
[;)]




PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 6:50:38 PM)

OK, what about my idea of "Peon Sings a Serenade Tribute for the Femdom Who's Nicest To Him"?  Though clearly the most important subject touched on on this thread, I see that it was about as eagerly discussed as would be the question of "should we pay tribute to the beauty of men's nostril hairs?"




happylittlepet -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 7:07:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VeryMercurial

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ORIGINAL: Reigna

You know what? If we keep this thread spinning, we might be able to surpass that infamous 45-pager, "Heterosexual males sucking cock."

I say we go for it.

 
Nothing will EVER surpass that thread.
[;)]


Sounds like I have some more reading to do. [:D]




MsStarlett -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/30/2009 8:19:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

OK, what about my idea of "Peon Sings a Serenade Tribute for the Femdom Who's Nicest To Him"? 


I already have one of those.  Does that mean I am excluded from the contest?




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