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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I'll throw this in for good measure. 

The word demand falls into the category, too.  For example, if I say something to the effect of I would like lilacs in the house the next time that I visit, that can also be seen as a demand and a tribute.  It's a rather simple command.  No better or worse than any other kind of command I would give.

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

(A secondary problem to this little bit is: these Women are not the initiating contact, the guys are, and they're derogatory and mean and insulting in nature. How they act in their initial contact toward a ProDomme is how they're going to treat any Woman who asserts Herself. The Pro is just the easier target.)

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ORIGINAL: happylittlepet

*Goes off to look for posts on Doms/tribute. Very curious to read up on that*.

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ORIGINAL: MsStarlett

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ORIGINAL: happylittlepet

*Goes off to look for posts on Doms/tribute. Very curious to read up on that*.

What a very good boy you are!

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ORIGINAL: happylittlepet

In essence, the ProDomme is not allowed to say no to business. If she does, she will be called names.

*Goes off to look for posts on Doms/tribute. Very curious to read up on that*.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

I've come to the conclusion that all Money Threads are just another flavor of my culture's favorite sport, which is woman-bashing. My reasoning as follows:

Stereotypically, this culture allows women to exercise only sexual power, and then only for a brief duration of time (usually from ages 15-35). All other modes of power, especially financial, are reserved for men.

Women who try to parlay the one form of power they are socially permitted, their sexuality, into any other kind of power (especially financial) typically become the victims of verbal, physical and structural violence in this society.

These threads are just another version of the same poison that leaves so many prostitutes dead in dumpsters.

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Correct....well any Domme really isn't "allowed" to say "no", the Pros are just easier targets because people like to use words like "whore" in reference to them because of the monetary tribute exchange (which most guys are trying to get out of anyways).

A. Not allowing someone to say no is disrespectful, and that someone is going to be taken advantage of when the disrespect is not addressed.

B. If any Domme is not allowed to say no, who is in control?

I imagine, that if you look at most Domme/tribute threads and remove the D/s verbage around all that, you'll find that it's kinda sickening how most of these men talk about women.

My problem is, these are supposedly sub males. And let's be honest, a lot of females, whatever label they describe themselves with are not doing a lot better, and neither are male dominants.



Edited to add: Yes tribute works between MsKitty and myself any and almost every chance She can get. I think it's hot. She does too. I used to be paid in cash for running a fetish shop. I would come home every week with a wad of bills in my pocket. Ma'am would stop me right at the door and frisk me. She'd tell me what shoes She was going to buy and when She was getting Her hair done as She'd like. I would often be left with a small allowance. Now, in the responsible manner, more than 80% of my pay check would end up in the bank to pay bills. But I was never told about that...just the stuff She wanted done.
 
And this is a healthy situation for you, because your Mistress is trustworthy, and it's a tested and established relationship. You have nothing to fear.

My thoughts go to those who are trying to get to that stage where trusting the other is justified. And even then, things can come to an end. Or, the financial situation of one of the partners can change dramatically. I am curious to know if that dramatic change has an impact on the dynamic, regardless of which genders/roles are involved.

My question really is, in a not-ProDomme situation, is the 'tribute' given for the 'attention/services' received better described as 'investing in the relationship'? And if that does not come from the heart of either partner, the intent to make that relationship grow, regardless on which side of the kneel, is it not so that that relationship is drifting towards deserving the 'Pro-Domme/paying sub'-label?

Also, before I met the Ma'am I had been considering interviewing local ProDommes because I needed some play time and wasn't seriously looking for a relationship. As it turns out I did meet a Pro and got into a relationship with Her. Funny that.
 
This possibility came actually to my mind when I was reading this:
 
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2155287/mpage_1/tm.htm
(some insight into tributes in the male Dom/female sub dynamic on pages 5/7.
 
I take it your Mistress stopped being your ProDomme? Yet you still give her the best you have, as does she to you.

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ORIGINAL: NoreenSwan

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

I've come to the conclusion that all Money Threads are just another flavor of my culture's favorite sport, which is woman-bashing. My reasoning as follows:

Stereotypically, this culture allows women to exercise only sexual power, and then only for a brief duration of time (usually from ages 15-35). All other modes of power, especially financial, are reserved for men.

Women who try to parlay the one form of power they are socially permitted, their sexuality, into any other kind of power (especially financial) typically become the victims of verbal, physical and structural violence in this society.

These threads are just another version of the same poison that leaves so many prostitutes dead in dumpsters.

I just love what she said and bumped it up here for the simple fact that this goes good.

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ORIGINAL: happylittlepet
I do not agree with what I have highlighted in red.

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And with regard to the blue text: that puts all women down. Stereotype much?

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: happylittlepet
I do not agree with what I have highlighted in red.

Too bad.  I'll stand by it.  There's too much irrational and needless bile in these threads to say they're just about a rare kink.

Sure, as I stand by my words. I think I have asked some valid questions. No bile in my posts. Maybe we can talk about the content of my posts, and not of those of others.

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And with regard to the blue text: that puts all women down. Stereotype much?

My statement was not a criticism of women generally nor of powerful women.  It was a critique of this society and its male-dominated sexist culture, which manifests in various ugly ways--not least in the gender conflicts on these forums.

If it's male-dominated, someone (women?) allowed that. All I am going to say about this.

I would ask in return whether you "Read the English language much?", but having looked at your profile and posting history, I can see that the answer is "No."  As you have requested in another thread that native speakers be tolerant of misunderstandings, I will drop this response here and bid you good posting. 

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ORIGINAL: happylittlepet

If it's male-dominated, someone (women?) allowed that. All I am going to say about this.

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Is my English a problem?

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ORIGINAL: happylittlepet

Thank you, very much female sub, male oriented, here though

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ORIGINAL: StellaSupreme

Sorry if I'm dragging this out, I've just seen a lot of threads here address this, and I get TONS of angry emails about it. Dudes calling me a gold digger, whore, fancy prostitute, etc. I don't solicit or seek out slaves on Collarme, I only respond to inquiries. I've tried making my profile as non bait-n-switchy as possible.

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Ma'am would stop me right at the door and frisk me. She'd tell me what shoes She was going to buy and when She was getting Her hair done as She'd like. I would often be left with a small allowance. Now, in the responsible manner, more than 80% of my pay check would end up in the bank to pay bills. But I was never told about that...just the stuff She wanted done.

boi