SteelofUtah -> RE: Abortion (8/22/2009 9:16:26 AM)
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I would like Abortions to cost as much as a Pregnancy. Maybe then people would not be having them as a form of birth control. I'll leave the rest for now, and simply address this. I lubs you, Steel, but no way no how would I support such a thing. Many women choose to end a pregnancy because they cannot afford to have and support a child, and they know it. What is more responsible- choosing to end a pregnancy when you know that you cannot financially support a child, or having a child knowing full well that doing so will mean that you will have to go on welfare? Wyld I lubs you too, I wonder why everyone keeps missing that I offered TWO possibilities right after the other because of this issue right here. Make them Free then but only give someone so many before they lose the ability to let it happen ever again. If you do want children but have already had your limit of abortions and you are Raped then in order to continue having children you will be required to report it so that the jack ass who did it will be in jail or at very least investigated and you are not held responsible for the unwanted pregnancy. I am not wanting anyone to keep a child they do not want. This is not and has never been my point, I want people to be responsible for their actions and I want them to understand that if they choose to do something it comes with a repercussion. At some point where do we hold someone responsible for preventing the action? Everyone does something stupid but when someone does the same stupid thing 3 times in a row are they showing any responsibility? My Mother said getting the first abortion was the hardest thing she ever did but then had two more, and they were just as hard as the first one and the LAST one she had is what made my Step-Dad finally get his SNIP SNIP, why did they not do so before? Cause he is an Idiot and was WILLING TO KEEP PAYING FOR THE FUCKING ABORTION!!! My Mother never got her tubes tied, but infomred me that her Gyno told her that due to the amount of abortrions she had had there was no more risk in tying her tubes then there was in my Step-Fathers getting a Vesectomy and why she did not have it done with the last abortion? A Question my Mother could not answer. It wasn't a matter of reversing it because it was obvious they no longer wanted anymore children. It wasn't a matter of risk while they were preforming one operation they could do the other equalizing the risk. It was because she didn't know because she wasn't planning. I, to this day, cannot get a straight answer out of her as to why they were not on birth control and the reason for no longer using condoms was as simple as we have been together for 15 years. To which I said "What the fuck does that have to do with you getting pregnant?. No Offense I do not want to be 30 years older than my Kid Brother." I said I am Pro Responsibility, which many people equate to me being pro life, I am not pro life I believe Abortion should be an Option, I just think it should come with a required responsibility. Men and Women should be held to the same level or responsibility, however if they really are to be held to the same level of responsbility then they should have the same choice, so whose choice gets ignored when the two people disagree? Right now as it stands the man has NO CHOICE he will have to accept whatever choice the woman makes even if that choice is to terminate the child that many believe he is equally responsible for. If that is how people want to keep it then why should he be held to al;l the same responsibilities when he is not given the same choice? This is what I do not get. I am not trying to remove the choice I am trying to make it so that if you keep being confronted with the choice to make that it is obvious you do not want children and while exersizing that choice make it so that you don't have to any more. If you can't figure this basic idea out after the First 2 or 3 then tell me how many should be okay? How many times should someone show they are irresponsibe before they are REQUIRED to address it? My Only Point is I would rather see people be more responsible. My First Son was just as much a surprize to me as my Second son was, the chances of me supposed to be able to have children was low, I had a situation that caused the majority of my sperm to be dead before ejaculation. I always knew it only took one and I did what I could to take my precautions. I am responsible for Both and I will be for the rest of my life not just the 18 years most are concerned about for legal matters. I would personally wish no one ever have to address the choice but I also believe that once it happens there is no reason NOT to address the responsibility from that point on. Just the way I feel Steel
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