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DavanKael -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/24/2009 9:34:32 PM)

If I'm writing a cmail, unless I am referencing something for the sake of dialogue, no, I don't do the generic cut and paste e-mails.  And, when I receive cut and paste e-mails, particularly those from do-me subs that have the audacity to address me with the honourific (Of their preference, of course: cause it's not actually about anything but their fantasy), I have the occasional urge to pull out a pair of my combat boots and deliver a good swift kick to their grill.  I generally offer the verbal equivalent if I am feeling intolerant. 
  Davan



TPEOwner -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/24/2009 10:38:34 PM)

What a bunch of crap. There's enough holier than though in this thread to buy the pope another gold toilet. I send cut and paste messages. You want to know why? Because 99.9% of the women on this site don't reply no matter what I write. I'm going to take my valuable time to write 1000 personalized messages to the lying, game playing "submissives" on this site so I can get one response, and that from some woman in africa who will be my slave forever if I will only send her airfare? The only thing more rare than honesty on this site is common courtesy. Everything I need to say as an introduction is in my profile. When I get a response from a real person, then I write a personalized message. Of course that real person isn't the person that the profile describes. That takes another email or two to figure out.



stella41b -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/24/2009 11:04:17 PM)

The only time I've really needed to copy and paste a message is when a relationship has broken down and someone has denied saying something, and I've gone back and pasted part of a previous e-mail, but this is rare and has only happened on a handful of occasions.

Professionally yes I will copy and paste and in initial correspondence but never in personal or private correspondence because I've yet to see two profiles or people who are alike and secondly when dealing with someone on a personal level there's a degree of intimacy which comes from selecting a message with words chosen from thoughts and feelings at that given moment in time.

To me it's kind of like signing someone's birthday card or a Christmas card, it's a message which is individual and which I feel should contain a little thought and feeling. Whether that thought or feeling is appreciated or not is besides the point, it's not even something I think about, but I do feel that it's something which should be there with the opportunity of being appreciated by the other person.

Personal correspondence to me should remain personal.. I don't pre-record my telephone conversations, I don't even use textspk in text messages, I sign my cards long hand and yes, I still write traditional letters to people.

In fact no amount of technology is ever going to cause me to lose my personal touch when dealing with people on a personal level. But that's just me.



WyldHrt -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/24/2009 11:29:32 PM)

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I'm going to take my valuable time to write 1000 personalized messages to the lying, game playing "submissives" on this site so I can get one response, and that from some woman in africa who will be my slave forever if I will only send her airfare? The only thing more rare than honesty on this site is common courtesy. Everything I need to say as an introduction is in my profile. When I get a response from a real person, then I write a personalized message. Of course that real person isn't the person that the profile describes. That takes another email or two to figure out.

Wow, angry much? I can't imagine why the real women on this site, of which there are many, would steer clear of a gem like you. [8|]
ETA- perved your profile. After reading your journal entries, I say go with the cut and paste. Considering the frustration, anger, and negativity that damned near jumped off the screen as I was reading, it's not going to matter what your cmail says. Most females with the intelligence and self confidence you claim to seek are going to read your journal and do the "delete/ block two step".



LadyPact -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/24/2009 11:42:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TPEOwner

What a bunch of crap. There's enough holier than though in this thread to buy the pope another gold toilet. I send cut and paste messages. You want to know why? Because 99.9% of the women on this site don't reply no matter what I write. I'm going to take my valuable time to write 1000 personalized messages to the lying, game playing "submissives" on this site so I can get one response, and that from some woman in africa who will be my slave forever if I will only send her airfare? The only thing more rare than honesty on this site is common courtesy. Everything I need to say as an introduction is in my profile. When I get a response from a real person, then I write a personalized message. Of course that real person isn't the person that the profile describes. That takes another email or two to figure out.

I'm not a female submissive, but I think this is something that is more applicable to gender rather than role. 

The females on this site can spot a form letter very quickly.  We see a lot of them and it's not that hard to tell the difference between a generic message and a personal one.  That's why you're not getting a response.  If I respond to form letters at all, it's to point out the fact that I knew it was a form letter in the first place.  Then, I'm finished with that particular person.



SailingBum -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/24/2009 11:46:52 PM)

Some ppl on here are just wacked out.  I have ZERO patience for email.  If I see someone who catches my interest for whatever reason...  more than likely it's from a post they have made.  <yea I know hurry the hell up and make your point>!!!  So I drop them a note or they have dropped me a note...  so anyway I m like lets talk on the phone.

Either the response is no reply  or you would have thought Id asked for there first born <no thanks  Ive raised my two and DON'T want anyone elses problem child>

Thanks wanted to get that off my chest.  Now back to your regularly schedule program.

No I don't c and p.  Motown BadOne



SweetNika -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/24/2009 11:58:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomThoughts

So I suppose my question is, what is the general approach to private messages in here? does anybody else keep such a (small) collection of partial messages for inclusion in messages (should I be admitting that!) what are people's approaches to private messages?

and for the girls, what are your views on this, obviously you can spot the blanket copy and paste, but the more personalised ones, I'm curious as to what sort of ratios you get... (all part of my eternal drive to understand everything to the nth degree!)

Kinds regards....


I dont copy and past e-mails, but then again I rarely initiate contact unless I found something intriguing about them in their profile or that they have posted here in the forums. Personally if I think an e-mail is a generic copy and past I simply delete it without a response. Honestly I think I get more copy and past e-mails from Dommes than I do men, though.



WyldHrt -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/24/2009 11:59:18 PM)

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If I see someone who catches my interest for whatever reason...  more than likely it's from a post they have made.  <yea I know hurry the hell up and make your point>!!!  So I drop them a note or they have dropped me a note...  so anyway I m like lets talk on the phone.

You make a good point, SB, even if it's not the one you meant to make [8D]. Folks whose user names I recognize from the forums are nearly guaranteed a response if they cmail about a post I've made, or a thread on the boards.



LadyPact -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/25/2009 12:18:33 AM)

Agreed.  There is absolutely a difference in the contacts from the forum side rather than those just going through the personals.



littlesarbonn -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/25/2009 12:29:07 AM)

I found that it makes it a lot easier for me if I don't write anyone at all. That way I don't have to cut and paste anything.



MaamJay -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/25/2009 1:41:43 AM)

OK OP, I do as You do. In that I write a personalized message, but I might copy and paste a chunk from a Word doc where I am going to ask the same things of ANY prospective sub once we are past the initial contact email or two. Things like:
1. Do you smoke? Drink alcohol? What drugs/medications do you take?
2. Are you in a current relationship of any kind?
3. Describe your past relationships in terms of duration, style etc.
4. How much bdsm experience have you had? (It's OK to say so if you've not had any in real life ... just be honest).
5. How relocatable are you should things work out? Consider factors such as work, family relationships, hobbies etc.
6. Any health issues?
7. Do you like pets? We have a dog and an aged cat who live indoors most of the time, so if you are allergic or dislike pets, this isn't the house for you!
8. Master is 15 years younger than Me. Do you see that as a problem? Bear in mind that male subs are NOT required to serve Master sexually and that I will be the main one in control of My sub ... however, to become a good family, it is essential the sub feel comfortable with Master as Head of a hierarchical Household and with himself being on the bottom rung. Also some subs find it hard to see their Dominant submitting to someone else in turn.
9. I am a BBW. I am definitely not "the body beautiful" ... though I do look years younger than My age (as told to Me by many people!). Is My size likely to be a problem for you?
10. What is it about being a sub or slave that you crave?
Depending on the person, what has been said in the first couple of emails, and what prospects we are thinking about, I may not hit them with all 10 at once. For eg, if we are talking only about meeting and possible play with no thought to a continuing future, they'd only get qns 1,2,3,4 and 6. I'd copy, paste and fix the numbers!

Some subs want to know what the household rules are ... there's 12 of them and they take up twice as much space as those 10 qns ... well no way I am going to type those out every time. So they get copied and pasted in. But the reply as a whole is entirely personal, as Jeff (leadership) says, who cares where the bits came from as long as the letter as a whole is clearly aimed at the recipient? I see this usage of copy and paste as worlds away from the form letter.

Maam Jay aka violet[A]



wandersalone -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/25/2009 2:34:41 AM)

I am another that doesn't do the copy and paste thing.  The main reason is probably because my messages to people here are pretty much never about anything bdsm related and there is rarely a common reason why I email people apart from something in their profile or a post of theirs on the forum that has spurred me to make a comment or ask a question. 

If I was planning to ask people similar bdsm questions or provide information about my own bdsm interests regularly to others I would consider keeping a word doc with some things eg. how I envision my submission to another to look blah blah but I prefer to leave all of the kink talk till I am talking face to face with someone.

My ratios for copy and paste vs originals..... well if I exclude the ones from regular forum posters which are generally in response to something I have posted on here and thus are never copy and paste and only count the ones from strangers I guess  6o% to 70 % are copy and paste and or one line on your knees bitch type of messages.  I reply to all of the other emails I receive and will sometimes also make a gentle suggestion to someone who has sent a generic message that they may have more success if they send a personalised message to people.

And kudos for mentioning that you keep a collection of partial messages to send to people, it sounds like you craft the rest of your messages to suit the person you are writing to which I am sure they appreciate.



LillyoftheVally -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/25/2009 2:39:27 AM)

I mostly get C&P mail, i ignore it or use it to take my anger out if im feeling grumpy.

I have never sent out C&P mail, I don't write long essays either normally because i get bored when i recieve them, I mean someone who has written 3 paragraphs about how much they like the outdoors, just a 'hey you are cute/your profile made me laugh/loved your post' whatever



VanityFix -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/25/2009 2:41:36 AM)

i always carefully read through profiles, look for common interests then work hard to type out a creative first email explaining my deepest fetishes in raunchy detail [8D]



LillyoftheVally -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/25/2009 2:44:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: VanityFix

i always carefully read through profiles, look for common interests then work hard to type out a creative first email explaining my deepest fetishes in raunchy detail [8D]




And now I have coffee all over my screen



RapierFugue -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/25/2009 2:45:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomThoughts

I made a comment to someone earlier today in a private message about the disparity between opening messages from women to men and from men to women.

I know there is a huge 'problem' with guys who simply copy and paste a very generic message to every woman's profile on the site, and it is those guys that make this place such a difficult to make connections.

My general approach is to read a profile and send a message accordingly, but have started to collect a notepad document of a few slightly generic lines, the thoughts that crop up and end up being said even when writing something reasonably unique.

So I suppose my question is, what is the general approach to private messages in here? does anybody else keep such a (small) collection of partial messages for inclusion in messages (should I be admitting that!) what are people's approaches to private messages?

and for the girls, what are your views on this, obviously you can spot the blanket copy and paste, but the more personalised ones, I'm curious as to what sort of ratios you get... (all part of my eternal drive to understand everything to the nth degree!)

Kinds regards....


I don't send that many messages, and I never copy & paste, but then I don't tend to send long messages either. I've taken the time and trouble to set up a profile that explains as much about me as I want someone to know, as a first view at any rate, therefore rambling on for 10 pages wouldn't really achieve very much.

I just tend to read the profile, then send something short but pleasantly polite, usually saying what caught my eye, profile-wise, and why.

Cut & paste would make me feel as if it was all a conveyor belt. Which, in a way, I guess it is, but I still don't want to treat it as such.



DomThoughts -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/25/2009 3:29:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MaamJay
But the reply as a whole is entirely personal, as Jeff (leadership) says, who cares where the bits came from as long as the letter as a whole is clearly aimed at the recipient? I see this usage of copy and paste as worlds away from the form letter.



I'm glad someone understands what I'm trying to say in this! I'm definitely not talking form letters, but a short-hand way to write a personalised message. (phew! that was hard work)



KCalli -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/25/2009 4:44:18 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomThoughts

I made a comment to someone earlier today in a private message about the disparity between opening messages from women to men and from men to women.

I know there is a huge 'problem' with guys who simply copy and paste a very generic message to every woman's profile on the site, and it is those guys that make this place such a difficult to make connections.

My general approach is to read a profile and send a message accordingly, but have started to collect a notepad document of a few slightly generic lines, the thoughts that crop up and end up being said even when writing something reasonably unique.

So I suppose my question is, what is the general approach to private messages in here? does anybody else keep such a (small) collection of partial messages for inclusion in messages (should I be admitting that!) what are people's approaches to private messages?

and for the girls, what are your views on this, obviously you can spot the blanket copy and paste, but the more personalised ones, I'm curious as to what sort of ratios you get... (all part of my eternal drive to understand everything to the nth degree!)

Kinds regards....

I never search and cold call on here.
I have rarely emailed anyone who has been viewing me, except if they have that kind of je ne sais quois
The mail I do get probably distributes iyself along a skewed curve with its mesian range laying somewhere along the stupidity scale.
1 per sent of dom males have approached me as intelligent human beings and two out of literally hundreds of mails since May have blown me away......
they know who they are if they are reading this.
Unique, special men...it does happen.
So to all of you: 'I want u, to own you and wish I was banging your head against a brick wall while fuckin you ard right now.....' I have this to say........
I'm at the office right now and will probably remain there for the rest of your life.



I have to say a hearty A-men to that. lol...nothing entertaining as a knuckle dragger, and they can't figure out why they can't find anyone worthwhile.



Apocalypso -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/25/2009 4:52:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TPEOwner
I'm going to take my valuable time to write 1000 personalized messages
Protip:  It's possible to write messages at the same time as sitting round in your underpants watching Jerry Springer.



LillyoftheVally -> RE: Do you Copy and Paste messages? (8/25/2009 4:55:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TPEOwner

What a bunch of crap. There's enough holier than though in this thread to buy the pope another gold toilet. I send cut and paste messages. You want to know why? Because 99.9% of the women on this site don't reply no matter what I write. I'm going to take my valuable time to write 1000 personalized messages to the lying, game playing "submissives" on this site so I can get one response, and that from some woman in africa who will be my slave forever if I will only send her airfare? The only thing more rare than honesty on this site is common courtesy. Everything I need to say as an introduction is in my profile. When I get a response from a real person, then I write a personalized message. Of course that real person isn't the person that the profile describes. That takes another email or two to figure out.


Ahh see but someone who writes a c&p message is often chocked up as being a wait let me get this right here 'lying, game playing "dominant' so we 'lying, gameplaying "submissives"' who are lacking 'common courtesy' won't reply.

Is it easier to blame the sun for your sun burn or the fact that you couldn't be arsed to put cream on?



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