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How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 8:35:28 AM   
Prinsexx


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Gender identity is the gender(s), or lack thereof, a person self-identifies as. The gender identities one may choose from include: male, female, both, somewhere in between (third gender), or neither.

Gender identity was originally a medical term used to explain sex reassignment surgery to the public and is a term is also found in psychology, whereas in sociology, gender studies and feminism gender is still inclined to refer to gender role or erotic preference. It is suggested that gender identity is affected by genetic, prenatal hormonal, postnatal, social, and post-pubertal hormonal determinants.

Biological factors include the influence of hormones, in particular testosterone and gene regulation in brain cells. Social factors are primarily based on the family as gender identity is thought to be formed by the third year of life. It is now thought that the innate gender identity, although powerfully influenced by the sex of the genitalia and the gender assigned during rearing, is not determined by these factors.

Self concept or self identity may be informed by how a person understands how others perceive them. Gender identity does not refer to the placing of a person into one of the categories male or female; but without including the concept of interaction with society at large the term has no meaning.

People who identify as transsexual may strongly desire that other people consider them to belong to a particular gender and often are simply trying to modify their bodies and behaviors to match how they feel inside, which may not have anything to do with being either male, female, a man, or a woman.

Sexual orientation is a pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions to men, women, both genders, neither gender, or another gender One may orientate as lesbian, gay, bisexual, pansexual, meterosexual, queer or straight.

BDSM roles for simplicity and convenience are classified as: People who are "in charge" or causing sensation are referred to as tops and the person on the other end is called a bottom. Many people enjoy being both and are said to be switches. Furthermore, tops in a D/s context are called doms and bottoms in D/s are subs. Not all tops are doms, and not all bottoms are subs. Likewise, tops in a M/s context are called Masters and their bottoms are slaves. Although a lot of doms and subs enjoy using the terms "Master" or "slave", not all tops are doms not all doms are Masters, and just as not all bottoms are subs not all subs are slaves. Not only are not all bottoms subs but a bottom is not necessarily submissive. At one end of the continuum is a submissive who enjoys taking orders from a dominant but does not receive any physical stimulation. At the other is a bottom who enjoys the intense physical and psychological stimulation but does not submit to the person delivering them.

Sorry forgot status:
Single, partnered, collared, owned, divorced, separated...?

OK:
How do you Id?
Do you Id differently in different contexts?
Do you feel it necessary to have to state gender…on a work application, CV, on a profile on Face Book, Collarme? Alt.com? and so on?
Why do you feel it necessary or unnecessary?

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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 8:37:06 AM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		I ID as fruit of the loom, it's what's written in the back of my pants.

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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 8:37:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Prin, this is going to read like I am being a twat but honestly I am not trying to be. Is it possible to go back and edit, making smaller paragraphs so my wiggy old eyes can avoid crossing.

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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 8:38:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I ID as fruit of the loom, it's what's written in the back of my pants.

Ron

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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 8:40:02 AM   
Prinsexx


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Prin, this is going to read like I am being a twat but honestly I am not trying to be. Is it possible to go back and edit, making smaller paragraphs so my wiggy old eyes can avoid crossing.

hell's bells I've edited it myself more than once so I can read it...but since it's you...ok 'course.
LaT: You can read the BDSM stuff at a running jump......


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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 8:44:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have: ovaries, a uterus, big boobs, very small hands and feet, a high pitched voice and more fat cells than my husband.

What am I  ?

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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 8:44:16 AM   
LaTigresse


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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 8:46:38 AM   
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How do you Id?


gender: female
sexual orientation: hetero
personality:  submissive
relationship:  slave

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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 8:50:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I ID as fruit of the loom, it's what's written in the back of my pants.

Ron


Does this mean I should ID as Victoria's Secret ???


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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 8:51:15 AM   
CallaFirestormBW


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How do you Id?

I identify as bossy female

quote:

Do you Id differently in different contexts?

No, I pretty much always identify as a bossy female. If you want specifics, though... I am physically and intellectually female, my sexual orientation is balanced bisexual, and my personality is controlling/authoritarian, which pretty much sticks me on the "bossy female" end of things. 

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Do you feel it necessary to have to state gender…on a work application, CV, on a profile on Face Book, Collarme? Alt.com? and so on?

I typically only respond where it is relevant and gripe about the rest.

quote:

Why do you feel it necessary or unnecessary?


Actually, I don't see a point for it at all unless one is dating and looking for a specific gender match or for medical reasons. Aside from that, I think gender identification (on job applications, random questionnaires, etc.) is irrelevant.

Dame Calla

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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 8:52:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I gotta tell ya, I don't think you are gonna get alotta the type of action you seek as 'pantyliner' or 'skidmarks' to be perfectly honest with you.

So, I could feature you as that, yes.


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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 8:57:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

I have: ovaries, a uterus, big boobs, very small hands and feet, a high pitched voice and more fat cells than my husband.

What am I  ?


A cunt?



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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 9:02:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		i dont personally need to identify as staunchly female but forms insist.  the rest of the time its pretty obvious im female, you know, i have lumpty bits and a high voice.

if i set up a profile with no pic and avoided the gender box and gave myself a less female name then chances are id get very few responses due to peoples confusion over my reluctance to state gender.

but in the end i am proud to be a woman, its how i feel internally and how i look externally and ultimately thats the point i think.

transgendered folk are what they feel they are inside and project that image outwardly, its how they feel most comfy (im guessing)

with regard to here i identify with being a straight female slave/submissive type who is most comfy in an Ms relationship.  i state that because that is what i am and to find someone who wants that package can rest assure that is how i see myself and what i desire to find.

in the end, as much as i hate all of this pigeon holing and sociatal intrusion and the vague assertions made on the basis of a persons sex, age and marital status as telling people who we are, it is largely unavoidable.

in a club people would see that i am a female slave.  here i could be anything and anyone i want to be but in the spirit of finding a mate there would be little point keeping back who and what i am in order to rebel against stereotyping.

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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 9:03:18 AM   
LaTigresse


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Definitely female, but that is obvious. Aside from dreams, I've never felt anything other than female or desired to be anything else. In fact, as I get older, I enjoy being a woman more and more.

As for filling out forms, I guess I don't really think about it one way or another.

That being said, I do have mental and emotional traits that some see as being more male than female. For the most part I see them as strengths rather than weaknesses. Which might lead a person to wonder if they are learned traits because I thought they were strengths, on some level, or just part of the ME as I was born.

I've always been a dominant, independent, personality. It's just that much of my life the only outlet I had was with passive aggressive actions. Girls, women, were supposed to be meek pretty creatures, subservient to the men, yada yada yada... So my way of coping was to sort of sneak in through the back door, so to speak. With passive aggression. This is something I see in MANY women, a conditioning that I hope, later generations can rid themselves of. It is very debilitating and does a dis-service to the gender and what women can accomplish given the right tools. But I digress...

Sadistic, yes........with the right person and energy. Aggressive, sometimes......when I feel it is warranted. Dominant, always, just not always aggressively.

As for BDSM, D/s and M/s........the relationshippy part. I have to say that for me, the way I work, it's going to have to be M/s for it to be satisfying to me. The power exchange is the biggest turn on to me. All the rest is icing.

Sexuality, while I do identify as a lesbian in this arena, it is obvious I am not a "gold star" of the variety. Truth be told my scale tends to slide an awful lot. Just not with guys, in any sort of BDSM way. Topping them sexually, or bottoming to them sexually just leaves me cold. It's a "EWWWWWW!!!" or "OH HELL NO!!!" reaction. A vanilla relationship with a man, I can do, and have done sucessfully for 20 years. As long as I am allowed to be myself, do my own thing, flourish, and still respect him being him, it works.

But a power exchange, full on, all acessories included, relationship with a submissive woman, THAT is the fuel that makes my fire burn.

< Message edited by LaTigresse -- 8/27/2009 9:16:51 AM >

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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 9:08:44 AM   
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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 9:33:18 AM   
porcelaine


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Status: offline 		How do you Id?
biologically i'm a woman. in actuality i'm a multifaceted multidimensional individual. i don't believe we're ever truly one thing, but a compilation of several aspects presented in nice packaging.

Do you Id differently in different contexts?
yes and no. my personality remains the same. what differs is how i elect to behave depending on the company i'm in.

Do you feel it necessary to have to state gender…on a work application, CV, on a profile on Face Book, Collarme? Alt.com? and so on?
i don't mind doing so, they are social networks after all. i think the omission could be give the impression of deception if making connections is the purpose of my presence.

Why do you feel it necessary or unnecessary?
at times i see labels as very limiting. i make an earnest attempt not to pigeonhole myself or anyone else for that matter. simply because i identify as heterosexual doesn't reveal if i've had relations with women in the past or if i'm willing to do so at present. expressing myself as a slave draws no attention to the fact that i'm extremely independent, naturally dominant, and not averse to switching when opportunities arise. these terms provide insight, not a full scale definition of the person utilizing them.

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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 9:56:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		I identify as a "Girlie Boy", bisexual, submissive.

I think that how we present ourselves to the world is also important.

I present as that identity as often as my life in the real world allows - at home and with my friends, for kink and alt and pagan events, etc.

Otherwise, I present as a male.  Observant folk may notice that I have long hair, my eyebrows are intentionally shaped, my arms and legs are hairless, I have two earrings, and the fashionista's may realize that I am wearing girl jeans.  


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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 10:24:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm a guy. Its what I was born, so its pretty much what I have to ID as. Do I ID differently in different situations? Nope, The equipment between my legs remains amazingly constant in all situations so far, so I ID the same in all situations.

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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 10:34:36 AM   
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How do you Id?
hetero Female
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Do you Id differently in different contexts?
No
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Do you feel it necessary to have to state gender…on a work application, CV, on a profile on Face Book, Collarme? Alt.com? and so on?
Yes
quote:

Why do you feel it necessary or unnecessary?
I don't want to be identified as a male or trans or anything other than female. That's what I am...female..born and bred. If it's for a job your gender may play a role in in who gets the job, what is expected at your job. If I'm on a personals site then I only want to be contacted by hetero males. I don't swing any other way.

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RE: How do you Id? - 8/27/2009 10:35:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

Police: Are you classified as human?
Korben Dallas: Negative, I am a meat popsicle.

Steel

So Haute Cuisine then?


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