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FirmhandKY -> RE: Real astro-turfing? (8/31/2009 9:57:53 AM)
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Firm, it is things like these that give me reason to suspect the motives of the person who created this site.
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It seems odd to me, as a foreigner, that democrats use Abe Lincoln and Dr.King in their propaganda (shirt above), when both men were Republicans assassinated by democrats. Many forget how Republican Abraham Lincoln’s ill-advised choice of a Democrat as a running mate in 1864 gave John Wilkes Booth a good excuse to assassinate him. Upon assuming the presidency, Andrew Johnson immediately began doing his best to ruin the Reconstruction effort by vetoing the Civil Rights Act and by repealing the Freedmen’s Bureau legislation guaranteeing each ex-slave 40 acres and a mule. James Earl Ray, a Democrat, was also inspired by the Democrat’s racist philosophy and rhetoric to kill Dr. M. L. King.
We have an opinion (which you can certainly argue with) and you have facts.
Which do you wish to dispute?
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2009/08/pelosi-astroturf-healthcare/
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An email circulated the day before by the local Democrat Party urged activists to come out to this event, and another one later that same day, claimed that “rich special interests” would be bussing “Teabaggers” there. Teabaggers is an obscure homocentric term that has been made a household word by the Democrat party. Tea Party participants are people who identify with that patriotic tax revolt of 1773. The Democrats’ reference to them as “Teabaggers” is a horribly crude example of how the left coarsens our public discourse.
From the same link.
Homocentric means.. having the same center. Or could the Photographers own daliance in (the only link to his name i could find would be El Marco) Deviant Art be the pushing force behind this statement?
Terms ending in bots and zoids to describe people also make me wonder about the objectivity of the reporter. I see lots of name calling, lots of put downs, lots of assumptions, and im supposed to believe he made none of this up? You and i can take the same exact set of pictures and come up with two different stories to describe the same event.
The term "teabaggers" is an insulting play on a sexual activity that is generally seen as insulting, or done in retribution. It does have homocentric conatations in some of it's defintions:
Teabagging: An act, obviously sexual in nature (and presumedly more commonly related to homosexual behavior), currently referring to activists against out-of-control taxation.
This is a term used to insult the people who oppose the current Democratic policies and was first widely used by MSNBC "reporters", and has since been used in an insulting manner by Democratic politicians to refer to people who are exercising their first amendment rights. Please review my comments in the "Could we kindly cut the nazi/communist crap?" thread.
From Wikipedia:
The term "tea bagging" was quickly co-opted by those critical of the movement. For example, MSNBC's David Shuster who on April 13, accused the protesters of "going nuts for it" and "whip[ping] out the festivities"; wanting to "give President Obama a strong tongue-lashing and lick government spending." He argued that "the people who came up with it are a familiar circle of Republicans including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, both of whom have backing from right wing financiers and lobbyists." and that "the Fox News Channel, including Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity, both are looking forward to an up close and personal taste of teabagging themselves." He concluded, saying that "If you are planning simultaneous teabagging all around the country, you're going to need a Dick Armey."[14] On April 13,[15] 14,[16] and 15,[17] MSNBC's Rachel Maddow made similar remarks. On April 14[18] and 15,[19] MSNBC's Keith Olbermann made remarks in the same vein, and on April 15, CNN's Anderson Cooper said "It's hard to talk when you're teabagging."[20][21]
"Teabaggers" has become a label used by some to cast aspersions with sexual innuendo on those who vociferously protest Obama administration initiatives such as health care reform[22]
To your comments about the use of "bots" and "zoids", I think they were primarily in use on the second site, which is not El Marco. However, who said the guy was objective? He does document what he is talking about, and we can certainly review the photos at least, and have a discussion about how accurate the basic assumptions are about "astro-turfin", can't we?
What do you believe he has "made up"? Is there any possibility that your own biases are also at play?
Firm
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