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RE: Manners or obnoxious? - 9/22/2009 10:40:14 AM   
IronBear


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Strangely I have to think before I address a lady, and it does depend if I know her or not as well as who she is and why I am addressing her. For example, if I am peeved with a lady and need to rebuke her, I will usually address her as "Madam! Are you aware ...rhubarb rhubarb..". Where as if I do know her and am, being facetious, I'll just say "Yes M'Lady" or what ever I do not use the term Ma'am except when I am addressing female members of Royalty in conversation. Sir is used for the male members of Royalty in conversation always.  In all other cases after I have been formally introduced or introduced myself, I always ask how they prefer to be addressed and take it from there. 

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RE: Manners or obnoxious? - 9/26/2009 7:25:30 AM   
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I don't know any male D-types who would be offended by being called sir. They may prefer another form of address, and depending on how you feel about using that form of address, use that instead... or just don't talk to them any more.

If you're referring to how to act in online chat rooms - one, it doesnt really matter all that much, anyone who gets upset over online mode of address has other issues they should take care of first.

Otherwise, just go with what feels comfortable for you.

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RE: Manners or obnoxious? - 9/26/2009 5:06:57 PM   
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I can't stand being called mistress. It dosn't work for me. If I had done something worth of the term "master" then then I'd be fine with people calling me that. I'll put up with being called "ma'am" but don't really like it. But, I love being called "miss", so long as it's done in a respectful way.

I don't insisnst on people using honnerfics with me.. my name always works just fine.

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RE: Manners or obnoxious? - 9/27/2009 7:33:53 AM   
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I don't think it's obnoxious at all, it's just you being polite and a bit formal because you don't know how else to refer to a Domme/Dom until they tell you.

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RE: Manners or obnoxious? - 9/27/2009 2:14:28 PM   
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What I do find bad mannered, rude, and ignorant bordering on obnoxious are those who make a huge song and dance publicly when someone displays impeccable manners such as standing for them, opens a door (classic that) or addresses them formally. In most cases it also shows complete ignorance and if their tirade is directed towards me, shall we say there are more way of ripping a new arsehole than doing so verbally. There are ways of showing displeasure or embarrassment than making a public scene.


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RE: Manners or obnoxious? - 9/27/2009 2:27:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lilredridingcrop

. [quote]I've been taught that it's manners when speaking to someone you know is a Dominant, Top, Master, or Mistress etc. to show your respect and call them Sir (or Ma'am) and if they don't approve of a sub/slave not under their protection or ownership using "Sir" (or Ma'am) they will or should let you know[/quote



If this is how you have been taught by YOUR MASTER then that is how you proceed...wheather it is "accurate" is not for us to say..It is what HE/SHe wants..It is thier way of etiquette and manners so you follow this.
IN certain situations if you are alone..you could ask..
"HOW shall I address you...?"
or if you are going to be somewhere  where you do not know a prefereace..you can ask ahead of time.."How shall I address them?"

This is similar  the eyes up or averted..speak only when spoken to....... at events etc.

IF you have a MASTER..then that is THE guide..If not..
it sounds liek you are trying to have MANNERS...
a rare things these days///

kudos..

GM

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RE: Manners or obnoxious? - 9/27/2009 3:56:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

And this is why I use "Ms" for unknown females instead of "Ma'am." Over the years I have seen that females prefer it. "Ma'am" seems to have conotations of being old, at least here in the mid-west. "Miss" also goes over very well!

I still do not see what the big fuss his. But oh well.


Oh gosh thats so true. I HATE it when people call me ma'am. Not becasue I am a slave, because I'm not old! I much prefer miss. That being said I don't get upset when people call me Ma'am. Their intentions are usually good. Its the intention behind the greeting that matters not my personal connotation. As a former waitress I am used to all sorts of formal and informal greetings meant to get my attention, from Ma'am to Hun to baby to HEY! to pardon me. They all work. Some might be considered polite and some rude but they all mean the same thing: "I need service" I think anyone who considers themselves a Master should be able to read the intentions of the person who is addresing them and react accordingly. As someone posted earlier, a "Yes Sir" could be as rude as a F&*CK YOU if delivered with that intention.

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